Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21 (Read 3259 times)

zippz

OPPOSE - HB534 Stand your Ground bill is up on Tuesday 2/2/21 at 9:45am.  Priority deadline for written testimony and request ZOOM testimony is Monday 2/1/21 at 9:45am

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2021/hearingnotices/HEARING_PDP_02-02-21_.HTM

OPPOSE it due to two problems with HB534.
1.  Section (2) has a stand your ground clause added to it for deadly force against the listed violent crimes.  However it conflicts with (5)(b) which still has the original wording "...safely by retreating or by surrendering possession...."  So the second part nullifies the first part.  Not sure if intentional or an error.

2.  Section (5) (B) (i) removes "castle doctorine" in the workplace, requiring you to retreat if possible.

More info here:  https://hifico.org/hb534/


Also support the hunters by testifying on this bill, priority deadline 2/1/21 9am, which clarifies landowner liability protections and could help to open up more private lands for hunting.
This bill covers these example activities: includes but is not limited to any of the following, or any combination thereof: hunting, fishing, swimming, boating, camping, picnicking, hiking, pleasure driving, nature study, water skiing, winter sports, and viewing or enjoying historical, archaeological, scenic, or scientific sites.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=101&year=2021&fbclid=IwAR0CqgKpB8hULu71OIaFtUU5LHSzDYDt0Niz3aZJsvpREGCUd8YPoJ-Ty0A
« Last Edit: January 31, 2021, 10:07:09 PM by zippz »

zippz

Re: Testimony needed for HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2021, 01:40:18 PM »
Sorry, should be in the Legal and Activism section.

Direjackalope

Re: Testimony needed for HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2021, 08:59:26 PM »
Submitted for both!  Thanks for the heads up!

hvybarrels

Re: Testimony needed for HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2021, 09:25:47 PM »
Might want to submit one for the permanent face mask bill as well. Completely insane
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

aieahound

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2021, 10:24:19 PM »
Testimony submitted.
Thanks for the heads up Zippz.  :shaka:
Keep em coming as they come up.

(Testified on face mask law also)

fishandshoot

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2021, 10:26:26 PM »
Submitted, thanks again for keeping us updated and informed.

fishandshoot

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2021, 10:26:44 PM »
 :shaka:

stangzilla

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2021, 08:28:10 AM »
done  :shaka:

6716J

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2021, 08:39:24 AM »
Done
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

zippz

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2021, 08:59:17 AM »
We'll see how this goes on Tuesday.  If not the way we want then we'll push for HB711 McDermott's real stand your ground bill.

zippz

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2021, 08:03:08 PM »
Good news, with the help of the Introducer, Rep Eli,  the PDP committee chair Ichiyama granted my request to change the wording in HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground  to HB711 Full Stand Your Ground.  We'll find out for sure tomorrow.


Edit.  Meant the PDP committee chair.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2021, 09:08:20 AM by zippz »

omnigun

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2021, 06:46:51 AM »
Good news, with the help of the Introducer, Rep Eli,  the JUD committee chair Ichiyama granted my request to change the wording in HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground  to HB711 Full Stand Your Ground.  We'll find out for sure tomorrow.

What wording changes did you make?

Edit*

Misread this nvm.  Sorry
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macsak

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2021, 06:59:41 AM »
What wording changes did you make?

focus
"change the wording in HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground  to HB711 Full Stand Your Ground."

zippz

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2021, 11:22:19 AM »
Hb534 passed PDP committee today, 6 more steps to go through which will get harder.  Funny thing is the antis were opposing the bill with us too because they thought it expanded stand your ground.

The wording was gutted and replaced with hb711

Hb101 was deferred.

We need more zoom testimonies, only had 4 today.  It's going to be much harder in the JUD committee coming up next.
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changemyoil66

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2021, 12:05:29 PM »
What wording changes did you make?

Edit*

Misread this nvm.  Sorry

Did you submit testimony?

changemyoil66

Re: Testimony needed to OPPOSE HB534 Fake Stand Your Ground - 2/2/21
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2021, 12:06:05 PM »