HB534 & HB711 (Read 3111 times)

changemyoil66

HB534 & HB711
« on: February 02, 2021, 11:29:10 AM »
Had the Zoom call today.  Looks like we won this round. HB 534 was merged with 711.  This makes it a true castle doctrine.  Which means if you use deadly force for self defense in the home or business, you are also immune from civil liability.  Why is this important?  Because if you have a legal shoot, the bad guy or their family will try and sue you.  even if you win in court, this will cost you about $30,000 in defense cost.

Thanks to all those that submitted testimony and came on the zoom.

On the zoom had 1 support 534 which removed being able to use deadly force at your business if you can flee first.  This person represented some prison organization and didn't read the bill or know how our currently use of deadly force law works.  She said that the bill was good so people do not use deadly force to defend their property.  This is already a law.

We will have to wait for the next committee hearing.

The west coast NRA rep Dan was on the Zoom.  Last year he flew in and came to some hearings as well.

Even had a few oppose 534 and not realize that they did it wrong. They sited EveryTown and just read the title of the bill.  Not its contents. They kept referring it to as a "stand your ground law" which it isn't. 534 removes the right to stand your ground and not give more areas where 1 doesn't have to retreat. They have No FOcus.
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fishandshoot

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2021, 11:50:30 AM »
Go team!  :shaka:

aieahound

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2021, 02:00:56 PM »
So is it going forward as HB 534 (with HB 711 language) or HB 711 ?

zippz

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2021, 02:34:11 PM »
We need a lot more zoom testifiers, only had 4 today.  We need 25+.

Next hearing for the bill will be much much more difficult in JUD.

6716J

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2021, 07:15:42 PM »
Was surprised the AG opposed the bill.

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J42A

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2021, 11:30:14 PM »
Read the responses from the Anti-2Aers.
Apparently, in their opinion, anything that references “Stand Your Ground” leads to increased homicide.  :wacko:
They don’t even read Castle Doctrine or protect place of business.
Completely uninformed and playing emotion.  :crazy:

changemyoil66

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2021, 08:55:00 AM »
Read the responses from the Anti-2Aers.
Apparently, in their opinion, anything that references “Stand Your Ground” leads to increased homicide.  :wacko:
They don’t even read Castle Doctrine or protect place of business.
Completely uninformed and playing emotion.  :crazy:

Correct.  That is why it's important to respond to them with facts of what the bill is.  Almost all of them just read the title that Stephanie Lum posted and assumed it was a stand your ground law.

zippz

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2021, 11:21:54 AM »
Most people, including gun people, don't know what stand your ground does.  It's also hard to explain.  I may make a video on it.  ASP is also helping us with a video.

changemyoil66

Re: HB534 & HB711
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2021, 11:24:49 AM »
Most people, including gun people, don't know what stand your ground does.  It's also hard to explain.  I may make a video on it.  ASP is also helping us with a video.

Make sure to state castle vs. SYG.