2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right... (Read 6702 times)

GlockNewb

"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2021, 11:30:26 AM »
Billionaires paying the fines and restitution for felons in FL so they can vote.

Ballot harvesting being paid for by Dem organizations and candidates.

Republican ballot observers harassed and ejected from counting buildings for any and every made-up accusation (he's risking everyone's lives trying to stand closer to see, ...).

Ballots showing up at 3-4am with no explanation where they came from.

Video showing repeated scanning of the same ballots.

Hidden boxes of ballots scanned after the press and observers were told  "No more counting tonight."

Machines proven to have flipped votes, in some cases changing the outcomes of other races.  "Errors" are 100% in favor of the Dems, never the GOP candidates.

The lists go on and on.

"There's no difference in believing in something with no evidence and not believing in something with overwhelming evidence."

OG refuses to believe in God without proof, but he refuses to believe the election was rigged in spite of all the evidence.  He is content to pretend that someone else not looking at the evidence (courts) is proof rather than trust his own analysis of the evidence presented.

Amazing, and scary.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

GlockNewb

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2021, 11:46:27 AM »
MSM published an article and laid the entire scheme bare for the world to see...that’s the scariest part I find.

“You don’t even have the decency to deny it.” — Tyrion Lannister to sister Cersei after she ordered the slaughtering of infants
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2021, 11:57:33 AM »
MSM published an article and laid the entire scheme bare for the world to see...that’s the scariest part I find.

“You don’t even have the decency to deny it.” — Tyrion Lannister to sister Cersei after she ordered the slaughtering of infants

Decency doesn't factor in when the ends justify the means.  Win at all costs, even when it means destroying any appearance of integrity and fairness the elections may have had.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2021, 12:22:24 PM »
OG refuses to believe in God without proof, but he refuses to believe the election was rigged in spite of all the evidence.  He is content to pretend that someone else not looking at the evidence (courts) is proof rather than trust his own analysis of the evidence presented.

Who gives a damn what some millennial chick believes or thinks?

This is not Facef*ck where she desperately seeks licks or looks.....

Why you guys continue to waste your life and time with this is beyond me.

GlockNewb

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2021, 12:25:50 PM »
Decency doesn't factor in when the ends justify the means.  Win at all costs, even when it means destroying any appearance of integrity and fairness the elections may have had.

Agreed, more to my point was the fact that MSM purposefully accused us of what they were actually doing for at least a year (the PLANdemic) and now, they say they know they knew, and yet carried on for power regardless of the consequences, just like Littlefinger...


"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2021, 12:46:07 PM »
Who gives a damn what some millennial chick believes or thinks?

This is not Facef*ck where she desperately seeks licks or looks.....

Why you guys continue to waste your life and time with this is beyond me.

It's like swatting flies and spraying for roaches.

Someone has to take care of pest control....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2021, 12:49:40 PM »
I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy.  Wasn't exactly hidden.  Also campaigns do this all the time, both sides.  Trump even "conspired" to frame the election as fraud to win. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2021, 12:55:39 PM »
I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy.  Wasn't exactly hidden.  Also campaigns do this all the time, both sides.  Trump even "conspired" to frame the election as fraud to win.

Open or covert, it's still a conspiracy.

The media and Big Tech suppressed Trump's messaging while covering for Biden's gaffs and lack of details in his policy positions.

Who did Trump conspire with?  The media couldn't get enough of Trump, and it was 90%+ bad.  All to get clicks and ad revenue while trying to torpedo his campaign.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

GlockNewb

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2021, 01:04:34 PM »
I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy.  Wasn't exactly hidden.  Also campaigns do this all the time, both sides.  Trump even "conspired" to frame the election as fraud to win.

If you have a chance, please watch the Tim Pool video. Conspiracies, propaganda, whatever you want to call it, both sides play the game to achieve victory.

But for all the people in the back who still don’t get why I fear this, let me quote the article (thanks Inspector for the link BTW), “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated.”

Proper outcome? In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? No. No. And no.
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

Inspector

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2021, 01:06:04 PM »
Open or covert, it's still a conspiracy.

The media and Big Tech suppressed Trump's messaging while covering for Biden's gaffs and lack of details in his policy positions.

Who did Trump conspire with?  The media couldn't get enough of Trump, and it was 90%+ bad.  All to get clicks and ad revenue while trying to torpedo his campaign.
Funny you say what I bolded. I heard on Bongino’s podcast today that the news agencies and the late night comedy shows are suffering low ratings because they don’t have Trump to bitch about any more.  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2021, 01:11:47 PM »
If you have a chance, please watch the Tim Pool video. Conspiracies, propaganda, whatever you want to call it, both sides play the game to achieve victory.

But for all the people in the back who still don’t get why I fear this, let me quote the article (thanks Inspector for the link BTW), “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated.”

Proper outcome? In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? No. No. And no.
I read the article twice and was considering posting it when I saw your post.

Proper outcome = predetermined outcome. Couldn’t have been done without committing fraud IMHO.

BTW, I heard today that SCOTUS has some of the state’s election manipulation cases on their docket. They will decide in February if they will hear any of them or not. I’m not going to hang my hat on them hearing any of them. But if they do, they are pretty straight forward and almost a slam dunk. So we should finally get some wins if they do.  :thumbsup:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2021, 01:14:43 PM »
If you have a chance, please watch the Tim Pool video. Conspiracies, propaganda, whatever you want to call it, both sides play the game to achieve victory.

But for all the people in the back who still don’t get why I fear this, let me quote the article (thanks Inspector for the link BTW), “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated.”

Proper outcome? In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? No. No. And no.

Yeah I agree, those in power seek to retain it or get it.  I think our political environment needs to be revamped BOTH sides.  Not sure how the best way is to accomplish this.  I think the cause is money, but money is speech and we have free speech..

omnigun

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2021, 01:16:31 PM »
Open or covert, it's still a conspiracy.

The media and Big Tech suppressed Trump's messaging while covering for Biden's gaffs and lack of details in his policy positions.

Who did Trump conspire with?  The media couldn't get enough of Trump, and it was 90%+ bad.  All to get clicks and ad revenue while trying to torpedo his campaign.

Propaganda fits a bit better.   But  BOTH sides are responsible.  Trump was calling the election stolen and rigged before most if, any votes were cast.  Clearly there was propaganda, and the democrats did the same trying to have biden win. Some mainstream media were clearly biased like the time article and were coordinated, but you have breitbart etc doing the same for the right. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2021, 01:30:15 PM »
Propaganda fits a bit better.   But  BOTH sides are responsible.  Trump was calling the election stolen and rigged before most if, any votes were cast.  Clearly there was propaganda, and the democrats did the same trying to have biden win. Some mainstream media were clearly biased like the time article and were coordinated, but you have breitbart etc doing the same for the right.

So, everything you said in the previous post was wrong?  Because you're now saying something totally different.

Maybe you should start thinking before typing.  Would save us all a lot of work.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2021, 01:33:32 PM »
Funny you say what I bolded. I heard on Bongino’s podcast today that the news agencies and the late night comedy shows are suffering low ratings because they don’t have Trump to bitch about any more.  :rofl:

Since the beginning of the year, CNN ratings are down 44%.

And they were on a downward trend even before that dip.

 :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2021, 01:36:22 PM »
Propaganda fits a bit better.   But  BOTH sides are responsible.  Trump was calling the election stolen and rigged before most if, any votes were cast.  Clearly there was propaganda, and the democrats did the same trying to have biden win. Some mainstream media were clearly biased like the time article and were coordinated, but you have breitbart etc doing the same for the right.

Doesn't matter if a single vote had been cast or not when Trump started calling out the election rigging.

Mail-in voting was ILLEGALLY USED in some swing states.  Trump pointed that out as soon as it was being implemented, but the the Supreme Court refused to get involved before the election.  After the election, they said, "What do you want us to do now?   The election is over.  Should have said something sooner."   :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2021, 02:04:01 PM »
All you folks and your references to the Talking Fawkin’ Heads.

The the only member whose posts I really weigh and trust are PunaP’s, because for the most part he posts facts, and God forbid, statistics.

Were State laws broken to allow counting of all mail in votes. Yes. Fact.
Did the Supreme Court rule on Federal law. Yes. Fact.
Was all this enough to swing the outcome of the election. Who knows.
Pick the talking heads on the side you want to be on and have at it.
Saved Democracy...Ruined Democracy...pick the Talking Heads and have at it.

Look at the Times article. Exposed corporate conspiracy while saving Democracy from an autocratic ruler. Couldn’t be more contradictory.
Cherry pick the facts, choose your Talking Heads of choice and follow and regurgitate their opinions for whatever side your on.

I’ll keep reading PunaP and his references. However, as far as I can tell no definitive conclusions can be drawn about the outcome of the election.
I can make my own inferences from the facts, both ways. But I continue to ignore the Talking Heads.
Propaganda from both sides.
It’s Politics as usual.
The pendulum swings.

P.S. Ben Shapiro is still pretty interesting though.
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Kuleana

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2021, 02:08:23 PM »
:wtf:

Billionaires conspiring against Trump?

Republicans doing nothing about it?

It can't be true, Wall Street and the ultrawealthy in America would never do something so un-American against the masses on Main Street.  The people of America control the USA.