2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right... (Read 6692 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2021, 02:22:44 PM »
:wtf:

Billionaires conspiring against Trump?

Republicans doing nothing about it?

It can't be true, Wall Street and the ultrawealthy in America would never do something so un-American against the masses on Main Street.  The people of America control the USA.

The corporations and big banks backed Biden.  The Democrats for the last few decades have become the party of big corporations.

Yet, the media and Dems still paint themselves as the party for the working people, and the GOP as the party that's for big business.

Tell a lie enough times, and people will believe it's the truth.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2021, 02:27:04 PM »
The the only member whose posts I really weigh and trust are PunaP’s, because for the most part he posts facts, and God forbid, statistics.

I’ll keep reading PunaP and his references.
Hound, let me first say that PunaP has done a marvelous job in presenting and providing evidence in support of his position.

However, I am not saying he is wrong, but that is still his personal position.  There is still another side to the argument that is not the propagandized one used by the power okole, to further their own interests, at the expense, of the masses.

Kuleana

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2021, 02:32:12 PM »
The corporations and big banks backed Biden.  The Democrats for the last few decades have become the party of big corporations.

Yet, the media and Dems still paint themselves as the party for the working people, and the GOP as the party that's for big business.

Tell a lie enough times, and people will believe it's the truth.
Totally true.

However, the same ultrawealthy elite still exert influence on the GOP as well.  To ignore that fact, is ignorant and irresponsible.

The only political parties that are not corrupted are the ones that are not allowed to compete, with the two party cheeks, of the same US imperial okole.

GlockNewb

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2021, 02:56:25 PM »
Totally true.

However, the same ultrawealthy elite still exert influence on the GOP as well.  To ignore that fact, is ignorant and irresponsible.

The only political parties that are not corrupted are the ones that are not allowed to compete, with the two party cheeks, of the same US imperial okole.

Not hard to influence the current state of the GOP. They had all branches 2016-2018, did nothing. Got punished for it in losing the house, never showed up for Georgia in 2020.
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

Kuleana

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2021, 03:05:37 PM »
Not hard to influence the current state of the GOP. They had all branches 2016-2018, did nothing. Got punished for it in losing the house, never showed up for Georgia in 2020.
Based on what you posted, the million dollar questions remain:

Why did they not do anything? 

Were they taking orders not to do anything? 

If so, then whose orders were they following?

Here is the kicker: answering correctly to the questions above, gets you on the US imperial domestic insurgent/terrorist watch list.   :shake:

Taking action to address the above puts you on the US imperial domestic insurgent/terrorist hit list.   :wacko:

omnigun

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2021, 03:13:14 PM »
So, everything you said in the previous post was wrong?  Because you're now saying something totally different.

Maybe you should start thinking before typing.  Would save us all a lot of work.

What?  Propaganda isn't a conspiracy... neither is partisanship and each side using their resources to affect an election.  It's par for the course.

robtmc

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2021, 03:30:39 PM »
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GlockNewb

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2021, 03:35:31 PM »
Based on what you posted, the million dollar questions remain:

Why did they not do anything? 

Were they taking orders not to do anything? 

If so, then whose orders were they following?


1) once you got a comfy seat, what incentive would you have to succeed?
2) not doing anything doesn’t have to be an order

"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2021, 03:42:18 PM »
Totally true.

However, the same ultrawealthy elite still exert influence on the GOP as well.  To ignore that fact, is ignorant and irresponsible.

The only political parties that are not corrupted are the ones that are not allowed to compete, with the two party cheeks, of the same US imperial okole.

I'm not saying the GOP is or isn't actually doing anything.  Just that the media and Dems paint the narrative the way people tend to accept as reality.

In my experience, political affiliation is no more valid than who their favorite NFL team is.  No elected official's motivations and strategies are any different than the others.  Their #1 objective is to gain and keep office.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2021, 04:17:21 PM »
1) once you got a comfy seat, what incentive would you have to succeed?
You don't.  Once you are in office, in today's corrupt electoral process, you are only responsible to the power okole that allowed you to win.



2) not doing anything doesn’t have to be an order
Inaction is an action, it is the conscious decision to do nothing.

During the Trump administration, it was clear there was no Russian collusion to get him elected.  However, Trump was not able to lift the sanctions that were placed on Russia, prior to his administration.  I am a believer that he would have done so, but was probably warned not to cross the power okole's bottom line with its imperial geopolitical goals, against Russia and China.

Kuleana

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2021, 04:20:52 PM »
I'm not saying the GOP is or isn't actually doing anything.  Just that the media and Dems paint the narrative the way people tend to accept as reality.

In my experience, political affiliation is no more valid than who their favorite NFL team is.  No elected official's motivations and strategies are any different than the others.  Their #1 objective is to gain and keep office.
I am in total agreement.

I am only adding to your assessment by saying that in order to keep office in today's America, those career politicians ultimately must kowtow, to whatever the whims, of the power okole.

GlockNewb

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2021, 04:48:50 PM »
I'm not saying the GOP is or isn't actually doing anything.  Just that the media and Dems paint the narrative the way people tend to accept as reality.



If there is a silver lining to the current MSM narrative, it’s that it’s easier than ever to prove they’re lying, case and point —>
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2021, 04:53:08 PM »
I am in total agreement.

I am only adding to your assessment by saying that in order to keep office in today's America, those career politicians ultimately must kowtow, to whatever the whims, of the power okole.

Agree.  If the elected official is part of the Democrat or Republican Party, they MUST toe the party line in almost all issues or risk losing party support.  That equates to a massive loss of campaign funds and resources and the possibility of being "primaried" in which another candidate from their party is given the party's support to win the primary and compete in the next general election.  Most candidates who please the party and their voters are never primaried, so they coast straight into the general without wasting their funding on the primary.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2021, 06:12:48 PM »
Hound, let me first say that PunaP has done a marvelous job in presenting and providing evidence in support of his position.

However, I am not saying he is wrong, but that is still his personal position.  There is still another side to the argument that is not the propagandized one used by the power okole, to further their own interests, at the expense, of the masses.

 :thumbsup:  Roger That.

Shucks, I forgot Zippz too.
Everybody please pay attention to him on the legal and local politics stuff.  :shaka:


Back to our scheduled programming.

omnigun

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2021, 07:39:32 PM »
:thumbsup:  Roger That.

Shucks, I forgot Zippz too.
Everybody please pay attention to him on the legal and local politics stuff.  :shaka:


Back to our scheduled programming.

I agree zippiz is one of the few members here I really respect. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2021, 07:55:57 PM »
I agree zippiz is one of the few members here I really respect.

"One of the few?"

That must mean you don't respect the majority of members here, because there are very many more members than just a "few".

I'm sure the few who earned your respect will be up late celebrating tonight.  Might even light off some fireworks left over from the holidays!

We should buy these lucky few trophies or plaques to commemorate this auspicious honor.

Besides, EEF, and Zippiz (whoever that is), who else deserves this award?

:geekdanc: :thumbsup:   :rofl:   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2021, 08:01:18 PM »
Funny you say what I bolded. I heard on Bongino’s podcast today that the news agencies and the late night comedy shows are suffering low ratings because they don’t have Trump to bitch about any more.  :rofl:
Samantha B is screwed.

Trump supporters stopped watching their BS years ago. Thats why ratings fell and now TDS people wont watch.

3.5 million for a 30 second super bowl commercial that already has 30% less viewership for games that cant have fans is also because the NFL supported BLM. Coke, pepsi, anheiser all not spending for SB commericials. Views down, why pay millions.

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omnigun

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2021, 08:26:01 PM »
"One of the few?"

That must mean you don't respect the majority of members here, because there are very many more members than just a "few".

I'm sure the few who earned your respect will be up late celebrating tonight.  Might even light off some fireworks left over from the holidays!

We should buy these lucky few trophies or plaques to commemorate this auspicious honor.

Besides, EEF, and Zippiz (whoever that is), who else deserves this award?

:geekdanc: :thumbsup:   :rofl:   :rofl:

Respect goes both ways.   👏 that's all I'll say about it. 

Direjackalope

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2021, 08:32:27 PM »
Respect goes both ways.   👏 that's all I'll say about it.

People treat you the way you ask to be treated.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2020 Them : No conspiracies!! Free and Fair. 2021 Them : You were right...
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2021, 08:35:20 PM »
Respect goes both ways.

If only you understood the irony ...

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   👏 that's all I'll say about it.

Why do I not belive you?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw