sorry about your friend, man

Thanks. He was a good kid and a hard worker. His life was going in the right direction.

Nothing lasts forever. It is against natural law.

Well, yeah, "forever" is a long time. In that span the sun will burn out and the Democrat authoritarian fascist legislators of Hawaii will no longer hold sway... that's true. It's also true of course that likely no one will be alive in this solar system to be concerned about exercising their rights.

Stay tuned

Forever? 

Or is a system of permitless open carry of handguns, rifles and shotguns of any capacity magazines (you know, as in "shall not be infringed") going to be implemented by the Hawaii state legislature and governor before the sun burns out?

Well, yeah, "forever" is a long time. In that span the sun will burn out and the Democrat authoritarian fascist legislators of Hawaii will no longer hold sway... that's true. It's also true of course that likely no one will be alive in this solar system to be concerned about exercising their rights.
Forever? 

Just wait until we colonize planets in other solar systems!  Dems will prohibit guns on the spacecraft for flight safety, weight restrictions, etc.

Note to future generations:  learn to use a light saber!   

Meanwhile, that Honolulu polices chief promised to drag anyone that uses a firearm in defense through the hell of the "system".
Just to teach them a lesson, I suppose.
Better to just allow yourself to be killed or injured to avoid all that.

Oh, ok.

HB534 is dead this year.  There was a 2nd attempt to bring it back but there's just too many problems in it to fix and we ran out of time.  I didn't realize how complex a law like this is as it has the language has to be good or a judge will throw it out, have to make sure it doesn't let criminals go free, and it has to be compatable with the rest of the HRS.  We're going to try it again next year and start early along with having a good education campaign about it.
There was a surprising amount of support for this bill and it would've passed the House.  However the Senate likely would've killed it, especially since it would need Rhoads or Kouchi's support.

***Got some hot updates just now.  This ain't over yet.***

Stay tuned

HB534 is dead this year.  There was a 2nd attempt to bring it back but there's just too many problems in it to fix and we ran out of time.  I didn't realize how complex a law like this is as it has the language has to be good or a judge will throw it out, have to make sure it doesn't let criminals go free, and it has to be compatable with the rest of the HRS.  We're going to try it again next year and start early along with having a good education campaign about it.
There was a surprising amount of support for this bill and it would've passed the House.  However the Senate likely would've killed it, especially since it would need Rhoads or Kouchi's support.

So... I stayed tuned... and it is over.

Not sure why you conclude "would've passed the House". And even if it did you acknowledge it would have been killed in the Senate. And even if it passed the Senate Ige would not sign it into law, he'd either veto it or possibly let it become law without his signature, but I'd guess veto... but that's all fantasy because it'll never (okay, not in the 21st century) pass the Senate, and I'll bet it'll never pass the House either. I mean barring the Big Change that is coming soon (?) to Hawaii politics in which everything flips 180 degrees. Can't wait.

I'll stay tuned.

So... I stayed tuned... and it is over.

Not sure why you conclude "would've passed the House". And even if it did you acknowledge it would have been killed in the Senate. And even if it passed the Senate Ige would not sign it into law, he'd either veto it or possibly let it become law without his signature, but I'd guess veto... but that's all fantasy because it'll never (okay, not in the 21st century) pass the Senate, and I'll bet it'll never pass the House either. I mean barring the Big Change that is coming soon (?) to Hawaii politics in which everything flips 180 degrees. Can't wait.

I'll stay tuned.

do you feel better now?

House members asked us to fix the bill so they could bring it back from deferral and it looks like we'd get 50 to 60% of the house vote.  I don't know where we'd be in the Senate, likely losing since we worked more on the House side than Senate.  Moderates are looking for something different that addresses crime since they can't control what the courts are doing and the overflowing jails.  Creating tougher sentences doesn't work since they're all plead down or given minimal sentences, if at all.  Moderates are against the progressive stuff.  I think they're interested in this bill to appease the public.  It's going to take a tremendous amount of work and money to get this through next year.

do you feel better now?

Wanna wager on whether the happy-talk revised version of the bill will pass next session?

Wanna wager on whether the happy-talk revised version of the bill will pass next session?

did i say that the bill would pass?

did i say that the bill would pass?

Did I say you said the bill would pass?

Did I say you said the bill would pass?

no, but why would you want to wager unless you thought that i think it will pass?

no, but why would you want to wager unless you thought that i think it will pass?

Don't you know the meaning of a question mark?

I asked a question.

I never asserted nor assumed nor concluded what you "thought".

Don't you know the meaning of a question mark?

I asked a question.

I never asserted nor assumed nor concluded what you "thought".

got it

no, i would not take that bet