President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump (Read 2893 times)

Flapp_Jackson

President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« on: February 20, 2021, 01:59:48 PM »
This is the man supposedly over half the voters in 2020 wanted to be president.  That's more votes than Obama got.   ???

Well, now we have him, and the warnings didn't take long to prove true.  He's just not mentally capable of learning, retaining and accurately conveying facts.  How do you think that will affect high level, international negotiations and agreements?  It'll be like a used car salesman taking advantage of an elderly, feeble-minded buyer.

Even CNN posted the first four FALSE CLAIMS in their town hall this week with Biden.  They said, "We're still looking into some of the claims Biden made, so this article is not comprehensive. But we can tell you now that he made at least four false claims -- all of them involving statistics -- about the minimum wage, undocumented immigrants, China's economy and Covid-19 vaccinations."

"We believe in truth, not facts!"  --Candidate Joe Biden

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Biden said the $7.25 per hour federal minimum wage is too low, then said soon after: "For
example, if it went -- if we gradually increased it -- when we indexed it at $7.20, if we kept
it indexed by -- to inflation, people would be making 20 bucks an hour right now. That's
what it would be."

Facts First: This is false; the White House told CNN after the event that Biden got mixed up
with another statistic about the minimum wage. Today's federal minimum wage of $7.25 per
hour, which took effect in 2009, would not be even close to $20 per hour if Congress had
decided to link it to inflation. Adjusted for inflation, $7.25 in January 2009 was equal to $8.98
in January 2021.

The White House told CNN that Biden was attempting to refer to a claim, from a progressive
think tank about how the minimum wage would have been $24 per hour in 2020 if the minimum
wage had kept pace with productivity growth (not inflation) since 1968 (not 2009).
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Biden said of the US population of undocumented immigrants: "The vast majority of the people,
those 11 million undocumented, they're not Hispanics; they're people who came on a visa -- who
was able to buy a ticket to get in a plane and didn't go home. They didn't come across the Rio Grande
swimming..."

Facts First: Biden was wrong to claim that the majority of undocumented immigrants in the US are
not Hispanic. While it is obviously difficult to compile comprehensive statistics on this population group,
the Migration Policy Institute think tank estimated in 2018 that 73% of undocumented people in the
US speak Spanish at home and 68% are from the Mexico and Central America region, with an additional
7% from South America. The Pew Research Center has found that the Mexican share of the undocumented
population has fallen over time, but that people from Latin America still made up 77% of the 2017
undocumented population.

Biden was more correct with his second claim, about the means by which undocumented people are
arriving in the US. A 2019 study by the Center for Migration Studies of New York, based on 2017 data,
found that, for the seventh straight year, more newly undocumented people overstayed visas than crossed
a border illegally; it was 62% overstays and 38% illegal crossings, according to the study.
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Biden talked about how he met with China's now-President, Xi Jinping, while Biden was vice president,
and then returned to the US and mused about China's demographic challenges. He said, "And I came
back and said they're going to end their One China -- their one child policy, because they're so xenophobic
they won't let anybody else in, and more people are retired than working. How can they sustain economic
growth when more people are retired?"

Facts First: It is not even close to true that more people in China are retired than working -- even today,
let alone when Biden was vice president and the Chinese workforce was younger. China reported having
about 775 million employed people at the end of 2019; China had a reported 254 million people aged 60
or above, the normal retirement-benefits age for men. "The working aged population has peaked and is
now declining and retirees are growing rapidly, so the ratio of workers to retirees is becoming less favorable.
But the ratio is still greater than 1," said David Dollar, an expert on the Chinese population who is a Brookings
Institution senior fellow.

Biden is right that China's aging workforce poses a challenge to the country, but he botched the specifics.
Even if you apply the usual dose of skepticism to official Chinese data, China is many decades away from
having more retirees than workers.

"I think he misspoke. Probably meant that the working age population is now slowly shrinking, a trend that will
continue for many years," said Nicholas Lardy, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International
Economics and another expert on the Chinese economy.
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Biden made a series of claims about the Covid-19 vaccine situation upon his January inauguration.
He said early at the town hall that when "we came into office, there was only 50 million doses that
were available." Moments later, he said, "We got into office and found out the supply -- there was no
backlog. I mean, there was nothing in the refrigerator, figuratively and literally speaking, and there were
10 million doses a day that were available." Soon after that, he told Cooper, "But when you and I talked
last, we talked about -- it's one thing to have the vaccine, which we didn't have when we came into office,
but a vaccinator -- how do you get the vaccine into someone's arm?"

Facts First: Biden got at least one of these statistics wrong -- in a way that made Trump look better, not
worse, so Biden's inaccuracy appeared accidental, but we're noting it anyway. A White House official said
that Biden's claim about "10 million doses a day" being available when he took office was meant to be a
reference to the 10 million doses a week that were being sent to states as of the second week of Biden's
term, up from 8.6 million a week when they took over.

The official said Biden's claim about "50 million doses" being available when he took office was a reference
to the number of doses that had been distributed to states as of the end of January. That was less than two
weeks into his term, but he could have been clearer on the time frame.

Biden's more dramatic claim here, that there was "nothing in the refrigerator" when he took office, has a solid
factual basis, though Biden could again have been clearer about what he meant. The official said this was a
reference to the fact that, as reported by the Washington Post in the week before Biden's inauguration, there
was no federal reserve of second doses available at the time. The Trump administration confirmed to the Post
for a January 15 article that the contents of the stockpile had been released to states; then-Health and Human
Services Secretary Alex Azar said the doses in the reserve could be shipped out "because we now have a
consistent pace of production." (It's worth noting that Biden's own transition team itself called for the release of
second doses from the reserve.)

It's also generally true that there were serious problems with vaccine supply just before Biden's inauguration.
Some states said that they had not been sent enough doses or that they faced major logistical issues in getting
doses to residents.

Some of Biden's Republican critics have focused on his claim that "we didn't have" the vaccine when we came
into office -- suggesting that Biden was denying that a Covid-19 vaccine existed at all under President Donald Trump.
Given the other comments Biden had just made, we think it's clear in context that this was not his actual meaning.
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Biden called for community college to be made free for all. He said this would cost $9 billion. Then he added:
"We spend almost that money as a break for people who own racehorses."

Facts First: There is no available evidence for the claim that the tax break for racehorse owners costs the
government almost $9 billion. The White House declined to provide a source for the figure.
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We can't call the claim flat false because we don't have definitive information ourselves. But it's worth noting
that it's very much unclear that Biden has any source. And Gleckman is skeptical that is true, though he noted
that Biden didn't say what time period he was claiming the $9 billion tax break covered.

Biden's $9 billion figure was, as of 2016-2017, roughly the national total for annual tuition and fees to two-year
institutions, according to federal data.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-anderson-cooper-milwaukee/index.html

It's scary to think this is the man responsible for shutting down pipelines, killing jobs, pushing gun control and negotiating with Iran, Russia, Mexico, the EU, etc., which you know are much more complicated issues. 

i doubt the man remembers what he had for lunch that afternoon.  Hell, he got his wife and sister confused with each other on the campaign trail. 

We're f*cked.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2021, 02:43:14 PM »
This is the man supposedly over half the voters in 2020 wanted to be president.  That's more votes than Obama got.   ???

Well, now we have him, and the warnings didn't take long to prove true.  He's just not mentally capable of learning, retaining and accurately conveying facts.  How do you think that will affect high level, international negotiations and agreements?  It'll be like a used car salesman taking advantage of an elderly, feeble-minded buyer.

Even CNN posted the first four FALSE CLAIMS in their town hall this week with Biden.  They said, "We're still looking into some of the claims Biden made, so this article is not comprehensive. But we can tell you now that he made at least four false claims -- all of them involving statistics -- about the minimum wage, undocumented immigrants, China's economy and Covid-19 vaccinations."

"We believe in truth, not facts!"  --Candidate Joe Biden

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-anderson-cooper-milwaukee/index.html

It's scary to think this is the man responsible for shutting down pipelines, killing jobs, pushing gun control and negotiating with Iran, Russia, Mexico, the EU, etc., which you know are much more complicated issues. 

i doubt the man remembers what he had for lunch that afternoon.  Hell, he got his wife and sister confused with each other on the campaign trail. 

We're f*cked.
You are just now figuring out
"We're f*cked."?
I'm just a hermit on the BI,
but a significant amount of my day goes to
preparing for the inevitable
and enjoying my retirement.
But every day the government
rules over you and you comply,
You're f*cked.
Aloha,  friends.



robtmc

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2021, 05:44:13 PM »
i doubt the man remembers what he had for lunch that afternoon.  Hell, he got his wife and sister confused with each other on the campaign trail. 
Yeah, the senile geezer admitting on CNN that he asked the old skank every morning "Where the hell are we?"  was very telling.

I am sure the guys feeding him lines in his earpiece were shitting bricks.

changemyoil66

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2021, 06:19:16 PM »
At least he isnt trump. Brb wasting my vote for a 3rd party. Then cause of flip states being lost due to others thinking like me.

Its ok, we got the senate...oh wait. Its ok, its only 4 years....

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2021, 06:41:09 PM »
At least he isnt trump. Brb wasting my vote for a 3rd party. Then cause of flip states being lost due to others thinking like me.

Its ok, we got the senate...oh wait. Its ok, its only 4 years....

Now it's, "He can't do all that via Executive Order.  Congress would have to pass that, and it's so stupid, I doubt all the Dems would be onboard."

The ACA passage proved this to be 100% false.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2021, 08:02:05 PM »
Now it's, "He can't do all that via Executive Order.  Congress would have to pass that, and it's so stupid, I doubt all the Dems would be onboard."

The ACA passage proved this to be 100% false.

but he won't be wrong...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2021, 09:26:22 PM »
but he won't be wrong...

According to the Yankee Marshal, who I stopped watching a couple of years ago when he went off the rails, the only thing he believes Joe can do for his stated gun control plan is (1) stop the importation of guns which would cripple supply, drive companies out of business, and increase gun prices across the board, and (2) stop Internet sales of guns, ammo, gun parts and related supplies. 

Those two things alone are enough to create an untenable situation.  I also think he'll try to revamp Operation Chokepoint again, where credit card companies refused to accept charges from gun shops or for any gun-related businesses/transactions.  That affected shops who needed credit to purchase inventory.  Without it, they close up for good.

Things like mag limits, AW Bans and gun insurance are less likely to get an XO, because the states are already having more success at their level than trying to push the same laws nationally.  Plus, if Obama couldn't get a ban started after Sandy Hook, it's doubtful Biden has any more support for one now.

It's a mixed bag -- some things he might can do, and others he likely can't.  Regardless, anything he does -- with or without Congress -- is bad for all gun owners everywhere.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2021, 06:40:53 AM »
This is the man supposedly over half the voters in 2020 wanted to be president.  That's more votes than Obama got.   ???

Well, now we have him, and the warnings didn't take long to prove true.  He's just not mentally capable of learning, retaining and accurately conveying facts.  How do you think that will affect high level, international negotiations and agreements?  It'll be like a used car salesman taking advantage of an elderly, feeble-minded buyer.

Even CNN posted the first four FALSE CLAIMS in their town hall this week with Biden.  They said, "We're still looking into some of the claims Biden made, so this article is not comprehensive. But we can tell you now that he made at least four false claims -- all of them involving statistics -- about the minimum wage, undocumented immigrants, China's economy and Covid-19 vaccinations."

"We believe in truth, not facts!"  --Candidate Joe Biden

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-anderson-cooper-milwaukee/index.html

It's scary to think this is the man responsible for shutting down pipelines, killing jobs, pushing gun control and negotiating with Iran, Russia, Mexico, the EU, etc., which you know are much more complicated issues. 

i doubt the man remembers what he had for lunch that afternoon.  Hell, he got his wife and sister confused with each other on the campaign trail. 

We're f*cked.
There is even more than this. But you hit on the highlights. I knew his presidency was going to be a disaster. Only I didn’t know it was going to be revealed this soon and this quickly from inauguration. The one thing you didn’t mention that worries me the most so far is that they have been having Harris call the heads of states of other countries instead of Biden doing this. It is his job to do this, not hers. This makes me wonder if he is going to be replaced even sooner than I suspected.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

dafrtknocker

Re: President* Joe Biden -- the Man Some People Wanted Over Trump
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2021, 04:39:43 PM »
Who's really in charge?