i own no firearms nor ammo...

It’s ok. CMO has plenty of both for ya 

There's better and more ergonomic guns nowadays, but it's splitting hairs.   Glock 19 is still a good pistol overall.

1911, revolver, G19. dam, all my stuff is obsolete   

1911, revolver, G19. dam, all my stuff is obsolete   

My 20 year old Hoyt still puts the animal down. When it stops doing that, then its obsolete and time for something new!

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My thoughts are you should buy one and try it for yourself, and let us know how you like it. 

Then you can teach macsak how to shoot. .. 

I tried it and was not a fan. For some reason had hard time hitting steel 5in x 13in at 30yrds with it, multiple times and diff models (compact, full size, sub). Other guns that are not mine, not much of an issue.

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I tried it and was not a fan. For some reason had hard time hitting steel 5in x 13in at 30yrds with it, multiple times and diff models (compact, full size, sub). Other guns that are not mine, not much of an issue.

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Right. Sounds like a sure sign of a junk firearm model line...

 

I tried it and was not a fan. For some reason had hard time hitting steel 5in x 13in at 30yrds with it, multiple times and diff models (compact, full size, sub). Other guns that are not mine, not much of an issue.

There is no try.  Only do.

Not all Glocks fit all size hands/fingers.  It's a common issue where new Glocks owners push the pistol off target when they pull the trigger -- usually low and left for right-handed shooters.

Just like any other hand-gripped tool, what feels comfortable to you might not work for others.

Hickok45 seems to enjoy the Glock platform in all flavors ...

There is no try.  Only do.

Not all Glocks fit all size hands/fingers.  It's a common issue where new Glocks owners push the pistol off target when they pull the trigger -- usually low and left for right-handed shooters.

Just like any other hand-gripped tool, what feels comfortable to you might not work for others.

Hickok45 seems to enjoy the Glock platform in all flavors ...

Do i buy a left handed 320? I can store it next to my left handed screw driver.

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Do i buy a left handed 320? I can store it next to my left handed screw driver.

If you decide to do that, just give me your money, and I'll buy it for you -- to make sure you don't get scammed!   

I tried it and was not a fan. For some reason had hard time hitting steel 5in x 13in at 30yrds with it, multiple times and diff models (compact, full size, sub). Other guns that are not mine, not much of an issue.

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just suck less...

just suck less...

I'll put up ammo for this challenge as well.   

 

1911, revolver, G19. dam, all my stuff is obsolete   

Everything I buy these days is obsolete.

Everything I buy these days is obsolete.

revolvers and 1911's aren't obsolete.  bc some sell for thousands of dollars.  they are still in demand.    

revolvers and 1911's aren't obsolete.  bc some sell for thousands of dollars.  they are still in demand.    

But everything I buy is 50 years old or older. Many over 100.

I have a question for all the Glock fans here. What is the newest innovation that Glock has come up with since they first released the Glock 17 back in the late 80’s or early 90’s? BTW, I don’t consider any of the other models any more innovative than the Model 17 except for the Model 44. I am starting to think that Glock is just resting on its laurels here and selling guns that are in essence not much different than the original from 30 years ago.

I have a question for all the Glock fans here. What is the newest innovation that Glock has come up with since they first released the Glock 17 back in the late 80’s or early 90’s? BTW, I don’t consider any of the other models any more innovative than the Model 17 except for the Model 44. I am starting to think that Glock is just resting on its laurels here and selling guns that are in essence not much different than the original from 30 years ago.

Glocks were great and affordable when they first came out.  Now everyone else has caught up and glock is slightly behind the times.

The internals have been upgraded to improve longevity and are more robust, like the recoil spring had a 2,000 round life and it's up to 5000 ends now.  The MOS version I think was the first mass production gun to have factory slide cuts for optics.  The Gen5 barrels are supposedly a little more accurate.

On the other hand the original Glock tennifer and parkerized finish was the best.  Later Gen 3 & 4s sucked and rusted.  Not sure how gen 5s are.  They also need to make factory all steel magazines to up the round counts, especially for their single stack mags.

I have a question for all the Glock fans here. What is the newest innovation that Glock has come up with since they first released the Glock 17 back in the late 80’s or early 90’s? BTW, I don’t consider any of the other models any more innovative than the Model 17 except for the Model 44. I am starting to think that Glock is just resting on its laurels here and selling guns that are in essence not much different than the original from 30 years ago.

I'm not looking for innovation from Glock.  I think many companies get stuck in innovation for the sake of innovation and turn out a crap product.  That's what I appreciate the tried and true.  That said, if another company out performed Glock, I'll switch.  I know many long time Glock owners who have gone to Sig P320 series.  I had experimented with the PPQ series, which I think is great.  It just didn't do anything above and beyond Glock, at least for me.  The aftermarket situation with Glock is still one of the best.  That huge, as well as an area where the aftermarket companies can innovate.

While I do consider myself a Glock fan, I'm down to try many others.  The CZ P10c is high on my list.  I came pretty close to buying a Sig P320 X5 Legion as well. 

One of the features of Glock has been the ability to use the same or larger capacity mags of one caliber in another Glock of that caliber.

I can use my 17rd-sized mags from my G17 in my 10rd-sized G26 -- both 9mm.  Yeah, the G17 is only 10 rds for HI compliance, but that's just a detail.   

So, being able to fit a 17 or 15 rd mag in a pistol that came with a standard 10 rd capacity is a possible selling point.

And, if you splurge for a 30rd mag, it'll fit all of your double-stack Glocks of the same caliber.

Now, with the "innovation" of a single-stack Glock mag, the interchangeability of mags is less if you buy single-stack Glocks and double-stack.

Let's say you're in a competition and one of your mags fails, leaving you with one too few to make it through each stage.  Chances are good you can borrow a mag from another competitor.

In a pinch or SHTF scenario, if you need another mag, there's a better chance of finding a fresh mag that works in your pistol if you have a Glock 9mm -- whether it's from a Cop, another civilian or in someone's stash you happen upon.  Kind of an odd "feature" to look at, but when you have the most popular caliber of the most popular brand, you have a much better chance of having the parts and accessories you need. 

Then there's the cost.  Glock mags are generally half what my metal Sig and 1911 mags usually cost.

The drop-safety system of the Glock is a definite plus. 

Being a DAO (striker-fired) firearm is a bonus for the Glock, too, particularly in competitions.  The time to get that first shot off can be the difference between a better score than another shooter, or a worse one.   

The first time I ran the MPPL course, I used my Sig P226 which required I fire the first round DA with the hammer forward, and each subsequent round was SA. The DA trigger pull was much heavier than the SA pulls afterward -- I'd say about twice as heavy.

The second time at MPPL, I used my Glock 17.  I found the simplicity of the Glock to be more of an advantage over the Sig.  Each trigger pull was identical from the first to the last.  Makes a difference when trying to shoot as fast and accurately as possible.

Yes, more striker-fired pistols have come/are coming to market, but this addresses the question asked about Glock fans and innovations.  There are more to choose from now (like my favorite: P320).

Anyway, just a few thoughts.  YMMV.  I'm seriously thinking of divesting myself of all things Glock in favor of my Sig collection and various revolvers.  I'm getting to that point where I'm more about minimizing, and the P320 offers versatility of size and caliber without having to own several firearms -- just the X-Change kits.  I am becoming less convinced that I'll ever be required to shoot a bad guy in the head as he holds a hostage in front of him using a Glock that I don't have a lot of practice using.   

I have a question for all the Glock fans here. What is the newest innovation that Glock has come up with since they first released the Glock 17 back in the late 80’s or early 90’s? BTW, I don’t consider any of the other models any more innovative than the Model 17 except for the Model 44. I am starting to think that Glock is just resting on its laurels here and selling guns that are in essence not much different than the original from 30 years ago.

HUGE innovations! They removed the finger grooves and added more serrations!!! That's what I call progress! 

SNIP

The first time I ran the MPPL course, I used my Sig P226 which required I fire the first round DA with the hammer forward, and each subsequent round was SA. The DA trigger pull was much heavier than the SA pulls afterward -- I'd say about twice as heavy.

You shot the IPSC target in the "D zone" (aka dick), didntcha?