Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread (Read 268864 times)

aletheuo137

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« Reply #1060 on: July 20, 2021, 07:25:08 AM »
PR STUNT BACKFIRES: Pelosi Aide Tests Positive for COVID After Meeting with TX Dems in DC

https://hannity.com/media-room/pr-stunt-backfires-pelosi-aide-tests-positive-for-covid-after-meeting-with-tx-dems-in-dc/

Close enough!!!

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aletheuo137

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« Reply #1061 on: July 20, 2021, 07:28:03 AM »
Video: LAPD cracks down on ‘antifa’ protesters during ‘transgender rights’ demonstration

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/video-lapd-cracks-down-on-antifa-protesters-during-transgender-rights-demonstration/

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aletheuo137

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« Reply #1062 on: July 20, 2021, 07:43:37 AM »
NJ Woman Faces Daily Fines for Displaying Profane Anti-Biden Signs

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/new-jersey-profane-obscene-biden/2021/07/20/id/1029240/

"It is a case, pure and simple, about language," Bundy said, according to NJ.com. "This ordinance does not restrict political speech. Neither this town or its laws may abridge or eliminate Ms. Dilascio’s freedom of speech.
"However, freedom of speech is not simply an absolute right. It is clear from state law and statutes that we cannot simply put up the umbrella of the First Amendment and say everything and anything is protected speech."


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aletheuo137

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« Reply #1063 on: July 20, 2021, 08:11:31 AM »
Wow. Vice President Kamala Harris Says to Get the Vax Because the Bible Says So (Video)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/wow-vice-president-kamala-harris-says-get-vax-bible-says-video/

More… Willie Brown Gave His Mistress Kamala Harris Her First State Jobs — With Income Totaling More than $400,000 in 5 Yrs.




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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1064 on: July 20, 2021, 11:47:22 AM »
NJ Woman Faces Daily Fines for Displaying Profane Anti-Biden Signs

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/new-jersey-profane-obscene-biden/2021/07/20/id/1029240/

"It is a case, pure and simple, about language," Bundy said, according to NJ.com. "This ordinance does not restrict political speech. Neither this town or its laws may abridge or eliminate Ms. Dilascio’s freedom of speech.
"However, freedom of speech is not simply an absolute right. It is clear from state law and statutes that we cannot simply put up the umbrella of the First Amendment and say everything and anything is protected speech."

The entire Hip Hop Recording Industry was unavailable for comment.   :geekdanc:

This is EXACTLY why you can't trust government.  Every time a dictator or fascist has trampled on individual rights and freedoms, they have done so while telling the people that the authoritarian rules are for their own good.  it always starts with speech, because ideas have always been more powerful than weapons.

If the anti-Biden signs are actually anti-Biden, it's protected political speech.  There's no debate over the content of the message -- it's political speech.

If they have a problem with the language, they need to take a look at court rulings like Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)

Public Vulgarity and Free Speech
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Although speech that meets the legal definition of obscenity can be proscribed by the state,
the public utterance of words that are merely profane or vulgar is generally protected by the
First Amendment. This was established in the landmark case of Cohen v. California (1971),
in which the Supreme Court overturned the breach-of-the-peace conviction of a man arrested
in a Los Angeles courthouse for wearing a jacket emblazoned with the words ‘‘Fuck the Draft.’’
While acknowledging that the jacket displayed an ‘‘unseemly expletive,’’ the Court held that the
First Amendment strictly limits the government’s ability to remove ‘‘unseemly’’ words from
public discourse. This is so, Justice John Marshall Harlan II reasoned in his opinion for the Court,
because the First Amendment requires that questions of taste be left in the hands of individuals
and not dictated by the state. It would be impossible for the government to distinguish objectively
between offensive and nonoffensive speech because, in Justice Harlan’s words, ‘‘one man’s
vulgarity is another man’s lyric.’’

Additionally, the Court recognized that the First Amendment protects the emotional as well as the
rational content of public communication, noting that ‘‘words are often chosen as much for their
emotive as their cognitive force.’’ Audience members who object to vulgar language in public
places must learn to avert their eyes, the Court concluded.

Similarly, the Court held in Hustler Magazine v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988), that the publication
of an insulting parody of a public figure was protected by the First Amendment. The Court stated
in its unanimous decision that the ‘‘fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient
reason for suppressing it.’’

https://uscivilliberties.org/cases/3613-cohen-v-california-403-us-15-1971.html

There is no reason the government employees and officials in this story should not already know this.  None whatsoever.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1065 on: July 20, 2021, 11:56:11 AM »
Same reasoning why hate speech is protected as well. What's hate to 1, isn't to another.

groveler

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1066 on: July 20, 2021, 12:04:59 PM »
The entire Hip Hop Recording Industry was unavailable for comment.   :geekdanc:

This is EXACTLY why you can't trust government.  Every time a dictator or fascist has trampled on individual rights and freedoms, they have done so while telling the people that the authoritarian rules are for their own good.  it always starts with speech, because ideas have always been more powerful than weapons.

If the anti-Biden signs are actually anti-Biden, it's protected political speech.  There's no debate over the content of the message -- it's political speech.

If they have a problem with the language, they need to take a look at court rulings like Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)

Public Vulgarity and Free Speech
https://uscivilliberties.org/cases/3613-cohen-v-california-403-us-15-1971.html

There is no reason the government employees and officials in this story should not already know this.  None whatsoever.
"There is no reason the government employees and officials in this story should not already know this.  None whatsoever."

They simply don't care.  It costs you time, money, and reputation, they don't care.
They run you through the "system" just because they can, even when they know they will
lose their case.  It doesn't cost them anything.
Worse thing that ever happened to the USA is government employee unions
and the Democrat party(their employers).

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1067 on: July 20, 2021, 12:09:28 PM »
Same reasoning why hate speech is protected as well. What's hate to 1, isn't to another.

As long as it's not an act, nor a call to incite violence against someone, it's protected.

And the "Yelling 'fire!' in a crowded theater" analogy of how all speech is not protected was brought up on multiple shows this week when discussing the WH / FB  collusion story.

That example was debunked long ago, but people never seem to be able to unlearn it.

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"Shouting fire in a crowded theater" is a popular analogy for speech or actions made for the
principal purpose of creating panic. The phrase is a paraphrasing of Justice Oliver Wendell
Holmes, Jr.'s opinion in the United States Supreme Court case Schenck v. United States in
1919, which held that the defendant's speech in opposition to the draft during World War I was
not protected free speech under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. The
case was later partially overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope
of banned speech to that which would be linked directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless
action (e.g. a riot).

The paraphrasing differs from Holmes's original wording in that it typically does not include the
word falsely, while also adding the word "crowded" to describe the theatre. The original wording
used in Holmes's opinion ("falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic") highlights that
speech that is dangerous and false is not protected, as opposed to speech that is dangerous but
also true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater

You absolutely CAN yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater if (1) there is a fire, or you believe there is, and (2) the act was not intended to cause harm (i.e. stampeded of people trying to get out that might injure patrons).

By trying to say the "right to free speech is not absolute," Justice Holmes himself created a false absolute "rule" concerning freedom of speech in theater settings. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1068 on: July 20, 2021, 12:21:30 PM »
"There is no reason the government employees and officials in this story should not already know this.  None whatsoever."

They simply don't care.  It costs you time, money, and reputation, they don't care.
They run you through the "system" just because they can, even when they know they will
lose their case.  It doesn't cost them anything.
Worse thing that ever happened to the USA is government employee unions
and the Democrat party(their employers).

Happening in HI too with the 2a. Tasers ruled legal under the 2a SCOTUS ruling.  HI waits until lawsuit brought by Roberts v. Ballard. Then waits another year as to hear the result of the NYSCPA case, which has zero weight on tasers.

Then changes law to allow tasers, thus making the lawsuit moot. Leaves attorney stuck with the bill. He would be lucky to get half the billable hours paid.  Had a HI judge ruled in his favor last year, then he probably would have gotten paid.

Alpha boiz doing it most recently too, to the key card guy. He made a metal card with a picture on it of  parts that would make a specific rifle full auto.  A rifle that isn't made anymore nor that no one really owns.  The picture of the parts weren't even perforated.  So 1 would have to cut it out themselves with a scissors or a saw.  AFT arrested him and ceased all his assets. Also ceased the assets of his family members. So getting money for a good atty was impossible if not for the help of other gun channels using GFM.  He was also given a public defender because pics of the hearing, he only had 1 atty at his table. He should have a team of attorneys.  Lucky, 1 YTer was able to contact his family and put the GFM funds in motion.  Fired the public defender and now has a way better attorney, who has a team.

What the AFT is basically saying is you are legal in what you did, but you got too close to the line.  So we're going to screw you.  If the court rules in the AFT's favor, then that would mean any picture drawn, even on paper will be classified as a machine gun.  So this is a 1A right on the line as well. Luckily the guy isn't looking for a plea deal, but going to take this all the way.

What does the AFT do next, they subpoena the YTers girlfriend to see what she knows about the GFM since it was under her name for what ever reason.  YT CRS FIrearms for his vids.

And yet they have minimum presents in Chiraq and all the firearms in drug houses.

aletheuo137

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« Reply #1069 on: July 20, 2021, 12:21:52 PM »
REVEALED: FBI Played Larger Role in Whitmer Kidnapping Case Than Previously Reported: FBI Informants Helped Hatch the Plot!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/revealed-fbi-played-larger-role-whitmer-kidnapping-case-previously-reported-fbi-informants-helped-hatch-plot/

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changemyoil66

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« Reply #1070 on: July 20, 2021, 12:23:03 PM »
As long as it's not an act, nor a call to incite violence against someone, it's protected.

And the "Yelling 'fire!' in a crowded theater" analogy of how all speech is not protected was brought up on multiple shows this week when discussing the WH / FB  collusion story.

That example was debunked long ago, but people never seem to be able to unlearn it.


I'm sure someone here will come around to argue his point again, even though we covered this months ago and he was wrong.

aletheuo137

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« Reply #1071 on: July 20, 2021, 12:31:08 PM »
China is buying billions in US farmland and lawmakers are scrambling to try to stop them
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/china-is-buying-billions-in-us-farmland-and-lawmakers-are-scrambling-to-try-to-stop-them/


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groveler

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« Reply #1072 on: July 20, 2021, 01:45:04 PM »
China is buying billions in US farmland and lawmakers are scrambling to try to stop them
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/china-is-buying-billions-in-us-farmland-and-lawmakers-are-scrambling-to-try-to-stop-them/


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Most my adult life I've always said you don't have to
militarily conquer the USA, we'll gladly sell it to you.
I'm not too worried about our food supply( more accurately
my food supply), however if someone chose to not plant a crop,
or conduct business as usual for just one season, USA Democrat cities
would be in the hurts big time.
As most people here know I'm not a fan of Democrats and their cities,
I don't think they represent Americans.  However the reality is,
Country boy will survive, and city boys supply line is so thin
it should scare them,  they won't survive on Facebook, food.
Quit taking Ag land out of production, be it a forest or a  sugar
cane field.
If you had to live on a "Victory garden" you would not be happy.
 >:(

aletheuo137

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1073 on: July 20, 2021, 04:36:55 PM »
US conducts first airstrike in Somalia under Biden

https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/us-conducts-first-airstrike-somalia-under-biden

The strike was against al Shabaab militants, an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist and insurgent group that aims to topple the Somali government and replace it with Islamic sharia law, according to Reuters.

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Flapp_Jackson

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« Reply #1074 on: July 20, 2021, 05:20:02 PM »
US conducts first airstrike in Somalia under Biden

https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/us-conducts-first-airstrike-somalia-under-biden

The strike was against al Shabaab militants, an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist and insurgent group that aims to topple the Somali government and replace it with Islamic sharia law, according to Reuters.

But ....  TRUMP!!!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1075 on: July 21, 2021, 05:44:29 AM »
This spyware could target WhatsApp, Apple iPhones, Android smartphones; here is how users can stay safe

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/this-spyware-could-target-whatsapp-apple-iphones-android-smartphones-here-is-how-users-can-stay-safe/

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Glasser

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« Reply #1076 on: July 21, 2021, 06:01:42 AM »
How Biden manages to find the absolute antithesis of qualified for every single position in his administration is an impressive feat. Buncha clowns

David Chipman, Biden’s ATF nominee, labels American gun owners as "Tiger Kings" preparing for a zombie apocalypse.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1417862973310349314

aletheuo137

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1077 on: July 21, 2021, 06:15:37 AM »
Dee Snider - It's 'Odd' That Censorship Is Now Coming From Left
 https://loudwire.com/dee-snider-odd-censorship-coming-from-left/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take it (Extended Version) (Official Music Video)


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Glasser

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1078 on: July 21, 2021, 06:39:31 AM »
Dee Snider Says It’s ‘Odd’ That Censorship Is Now Coming From the Left

Read More: Dee Snider - It's 'Odd' That Censorship Is Now Coming From Left | https://loudwire.com/dee-snider-odd-censorship-coming-from-left/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take it (Extended Version) (Official Music Video)



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Wait wait what?

 Dee knows first hand Lefties love Censorship. Dee is famous for telling Al Gore's wife Tipper to go F herself for trying to label records.








aletheuo137

Re: Media Lies, Lies by Omission, Misinformation, Disinformation Thread
« Reply #1079 on: July 21, 2021, 07:10:39 AM »
The Coming Coup?

https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-coming-coup/

So why are the Democrats—publicly—talking about the conspiracy?
Because they know that, for it to succeed, it must not look like a conspiracy. They need to plant the idea in the public mind, now, that their unlawful and illegitimate removal of President Trump from office will somehow be his fault.
Never mind the pesky detail that the president would refuse to leave only if he were convinced he legitimately won. Remember: Biden should not concede under any circumstances.
The second part of the plan is either to produce enough harvested ballots—lawfully or not—to tip close states, or else dispute the results in close states and insist, no matter what the tally says, that Biden won them. The worst-case scenario (for the country, but not for the ruling class) would be results in a handful of states that are so ambiguous and hotly disputed that no one can rightly say who won. Of course, that will not stop the Democrats from insisting that they won.
The public preparation for that has also already begun: streams of stories and social media posts “explaining” how, while on election night it might look as if Trump won, close states will tip to Biden as all the mail-in ballots are “counted.”
The third piece is to get the vast and loud Dem-Left propaganda machine ready for war. That leaked report exhorted Democrats to identify “key influencers in the media and among local activists who can affect political perceptions and mobilize political action…[who could] establish pre-commitments to playing a constructive role in event of a contested election.” I.e., in blaring from every rooftop that “Trump lost.”
At this point, it’s safe to assume that unless Trump wins in a blowout that can’t be overcome by cheating and/or denied via the ruling class’s massive propaganda operation, that’s exactly what every Democratic politician and media organ will shout.