Better watch out CMO you’re gonna fall into this category :

Need to feel it in my hand 

Up there with

I nominate Stangzilla:

"sometimes at home, i just take it out and hold it."

From Classic quotes

So the plan was to not use this for HD, but i bought 2 boxes just in case. Will probably buy more once i know it functions correctly.

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That's cute. . . 

J/K. Did you try two each of the Federal and GD? 

I don't have any SH/HP ammo for my .45 ACP anymore.  That said, highly recommend (as you prob read extensively already) testing with the 1911 with .45 ACP SD/HP ammo, particularly the specific boolit head(s) shape, profile, etc. 

That's cute. . . 

J/K. Did you try two each of the Federal and GD? 

I don't have any SH/HP ammo for my .45 ACP anymore.  That said, highly recommend (as you prob read extensively already) testing with the 1911 with .45 ACP SD/HP ammo, particularly the specific boolit head(s) shape, profile, etc.

Havent tried either yet. Dont wanna buy a few boxes and it doesnt function. Then on the way out, my friend points to their 5.56 xm193 federal, half case for $309. Last time i got a case of 556 from them, it was $750 about 4 months ago. So i ended up buying half case too. This was all at SEC.

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Hope you’re not using that gun for HD.
When the cops take that gun you’re gonna be sick.
No matter what happens, cops are taking the gun in home defense shooting.
(Just a guess)

But if just in case happens, at least you’ll be ready.

Hope you’re not using that gun for HD.
When the cops take that gun you’re gonna be sick.
No matter what happens, cops are taking the gun in home defense shooting.
(Just a guess)

But if just in case happens, at least you’ll be ready.

Initial thought was no, until i saw ballistic gel test on HP 45 vs. HP 9.

But i do have way more range time on the vp9, so it might be a few b4 i adopt this if at all as my SD gun. At least mag capacity isnt a factor.

I followed up with my LGs who won the bid. Seller didnt even charge his credit card yet. He is going to follow up this week. Its a well known seller too.

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Hope you’re not using that gun for HD.
When the cops take that gun you’re gonna be sick.
No matter what happens, cops are taking the gun in home defense shooting.
(Just a guess)

But if just in case happens, at least you’ll be ready.

If he does, and does care, he’ll be alive to care. Use best tool for the task. Everything else is, everything else.

Understand what you’re saying though. That said, I suspect he’ll soon be looking for a handgun with RDS.

If he does, and does care, he’ll be alive to care. Use best tool for the task. Everything else is, everything else.

Understand what you’re saying though. That said, I suspect he’ll soon be looking for a handgun with RDS.

If the LGS had a Shadow Systems Warpoet MR920, i would buy it at the same time. Make use of that 1 trip to HPD.

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If he does, and does care, he’ll be alive to care. Use best tool for the task. Everything else is, everything else.

Made Classic quotes.   

If the LGS had a Shadow Systems Warpoet MR920, i would buy it at the same time. Make use of that 1 trip to HPD.

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Why that particular gun? Lots of choices for “improved”, “Glock-like” handguns.

Why that particular gun? Lots of choices for “improved”, “Glock-like” handguns.

Price, tacticool, and comes with the RDS i want (side battery load). So out of the box, g2g.


Edit

Shadow will also review any self defense usage of their gun and if it gets taken away, they will replace it (subject to their approval). So worry of losing a $1k gun goes down.


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Price, tacticool, and comes with the RDS i want (side battery load). So out of the box, g2g.


Edit

Shadow will also review any self defense usage of their gun and if it gets taken away, they will replace it (subject to their approval). So worry of losing a $1k gun goes down.


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That is something Salient offers, but I learned about after having one for a while. 

GTG out of the box you say, eh? 

That is something Salient offers, but I learned about after having one for a while. 

GTG out of the box you say, eh?

Yup, my other concern was the flat top for the RDS, like the 1st gen Walther PDP's. But Shadow uses way longer screws and uses a buffer type insert between the slide and optic which minimizes the side to side, and back and forth travel of the RDS.  So seems like they mitigated that issue.  Their slide is designed to take longer screws, compared to a Glock slide that's milled.

But yeah, I could buy a G19, then upgrade the slide to look tacticool, buy a tacticool barrel, Holosun RDS, stippple, etc... Or just buy the MR920 and ready.  I haven't looked into it yet, but it should fit G19 holsters and accept G19 mags (Glock factory mags).

Mrs. CMO not happy about me buying 2 pistols so close together. But my excuse is I didn't pay for the M45 yet, so technically, I didn't.

Yup, my other concern was the flat top for the RDS, like the 1st gen Walther PDP's. But Shadow uses way longer screws and uses a buffer type insert between the slide and optic which minimizes the side to side, and back and forth travel of the RDS.  So seems like they mitigated that issue.  Their slide is designed to take longer screws, compared to a Glock slide that's milled.

But yeah, I could buy a G19, then upgrade the slide to look tacticool, buy a tacticool barrel, Holosun RDS, stippple, etc... Or just buy the MR920 and ready.  I haven't looked into it yet, but it should fit G19 holsters and accept G19 mags (Glock factory mags).

Mrs. CMO not happy about me buying 2 pistols so close together. But my excuse is I didn't pay for the M45 yet, so technically, I didn't.

Ahh, you mean GTG in terms of accommodating features or things that you want for the gun. .. got it.  That's part of the frustration with RDS and the different footprints.  I was offered a screaming deal on a Deltapoint, but all of my current guns have RMR footprint.  I was actually tempted to get another gun just for the Deltapoint though.  haha

Ahh, you mean GTG in terms of accommodating features or things that you want for the gun. .. got it.  That's part of the frustration with RDS and the different footprints.  I was offered a screaming deal on a Deltapoint, but all of my current guns have RMR footprint.  I was actually tempted to get another gun just for the Deltapoint though.  haha

What did you think I meant by g2g?

With all the RDS options out there, the biggest thing for me is not having to remove the RDS to change the battery. I don't have time to go to the range to do so, which means if the battery dies, then I'm unzero'd for at least a few days, say it craps out on a Wednesday, then Saturday is the soonest I can go, but now I have to plan my day around going to the range.  It would bother me all that time being unzero'd.  I know guys who have the Trijicon RMR and brand new battery crapped out after 6 months.  Luckily, they go range like every week, so not too big of a deal.

What did you think I meant by g2g?

With all the RDS options out there, the biggest thing for me is not having to remove the RDS to change the battery. I don't have time to go to the range to do so, which means if the battery dies, then I'm unzero'd for at least a few days, say it craps out on a Wednesday, then Saturday is the soonest I can go, but now I have to plan my day around going to the range.  It would bother me all that time being unzero'd.  I know guys who have the Trijicon RMR and brand new battery crapped out after 6 months.  Luckily, they go range like every week, so not too big of a deal.

You determine what you think is GTG. . . I wasn't thinking available features, but getting any item "just the way you want" is a good consideration.

I know many who change batteries yearly, like their smoke alarm.  I don't, but I should get in the habit of doing it regularly.  That said, I do have backups, to my backup RDS guns.  Then back up to that are irons. . . which still work. . . 

You determine what you think is GTG. . . I wasn't thinking available features, but getting any item "just the way you want" is a good consideration.

I know many who change batteries yearly, like their smoke alarm.  I don't, but I should get in the habit of doing it regularly.  That said, I do have backups, to my backup RDS guns.  Then back up to that are irons. . . which still work. . . 

With regard to the context of the post, g2g means just the way I want it,  tacticool and on paper functioning well.  But it can also mean, live fire functions, but depends on the context. Or a chick that's STD free, "she's g2g".

Would it be fair to say if you know the POA/POI on your irons, you can just adjust the dot to that and be fine?  Like I know where my dot sits on my AR with my back up irons.   So if I ever had to remove the dot, I can pretty much don't have to re-zero.  My SIG Romeo5 keeps it's zero during a battery change.

And I was watching The Modern Samurai Project and he briefly went over 10yrd or 25yrd zero. And no matter which one u do, the opposite POI is less than 1 inch.  So if you zero at 10 yards, your POI at 25 is 0.7 inches low (?). And if you zero at 25 yards, your POI at 10 yards is 0.6 inches high (?). High or low can be backwards, I don't remember.  Which means I'd probably zero at open shoots either HRA or HDF as they allow 10 yard targets. 

With regard to the context of the post, g2g means just the way I want it,  tacticool and on paper functioning well.  But it can also mean, live fire functions, but depends on the context. Or a chick that's STD free, "she's g2g".

Would it be fair to say if you know the POA/POI on your irons, you can just adjust the dot to that and be fine?  Like I know where my dot sits on my AR with my back up irons.   So if I ever had to remove the dot, I can pretty much don't have to re-zero.  My SIG Romeo5 keeps it's zero during a battery change.

And I was watching The Modern Samurai Project and he briefly went over 10yrd or 25yrd zero. And no matter which one u do, the opposite POI is less than 1 inch.  So if you zero at 10 yards, your POI at 25 is 0.7 inches low (?). And if you zero at 25 yards, your POI at 10 yards is 0.6 inches high (?). High or low can be backwards, I don't remember.  Which means I'd probably zero at open shoots either HRA or HDF as they allow 10 yard targets.

Would it be fair?  I would say test and see for yourself.  For typical SD ranges, I think "trust but verify" applies here.  I've done (need to get back to shooting more) a lot of testing in the 25 yards for POI.  Also on parallax and where the dot is in the window and POI.  For me, the RMRs are amazingly forgiving. 

I like MSP.  The asian guy with Polish-ish last name.  I was lining up a class with him, but then COVID crap hit.  I still very much want to take a class with him. 

Did you get an answer from the retailer/dealer? I did notice they had another listing up the same day you posted here.

Did you get an answer from the retailer/dealer? I did notice they had another listing up the same day you posted here.

I called today, but the GB guy was out of the officer already. I'll call tomorrow.

They did list another M45 seconds after the one I bid on was sold.

No update. I'm to the point where I'm gonna ask for my deposit back and just bid myself on GB.