Hpd bodycam footage (Read 8038 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2021, 07:10:46 PM »
Seems like everything is going nuts nowadays.

Wouldn't be surprised our leaders here in Hawaii start saying when a stranger walks into your house you are supposed to, or is it your duty? to run away. 

Or are we supposed to start cooking rice to feed them?  Maybe that's what they do in Zulu land.

Sorry bro, this is not Zulu land.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

XL iced_coffee

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2021, 07:34:34 PM »
What I don’t understand is that how is police officers are allowed to shoot when they feel that their lives are in danger , and yet we are either have to chance to die or go to prison if we feel like our lives are in danger if we shoot someone, am I missing something? 🤷🏻‍♂️

ren

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2021, 07:35:54 PM »
What I don’t understand is that how is police officers are allowed to shoot when they feel that their lives are in danger , and yet we are either have to chance to die or go to prison if we feel like our lives are in danger if we shoot someone, am I missing something? 🤷🏻‍♂️

trained and certified
Deeds Not Words

XL iced_coffee

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2021, 07:54:42 PM »
True , just didn’t wish that being trained or certified was the only thing that would decide if I go to prison or die or if my love ones die just cause the trained and certified officers won’t be there on time to stop the bad guy.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2021, 08:03:54 PM »
So, how old was this person?  The Kingdom of Zululand ceased to exist in 1897.  That's 124 years for those who don't understand the concept of math  :rofl:

"This is how we do it in Zululand," is therefore an impossibility.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Bota-CS1

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2021, 08:06:55 PM »
Does this mean there won’t be a Coming to America 3?
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2021, 08:14:48 PM »
Does this mean there won’t be a Coming to America 3?

They can make as many of those as they want.  It's all fiction ....  so, yeah.   :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2021, 10:29:51 PM »
it's all about the Benjamins
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/protesters-call-for-change-attorney-wants-answers-to-fatal-nuuanu-police-shooting/

Protest organizer Lesley Harvey said they are seeing more acts of violence against black and brown communities in Hawaii and she wanted the public to open their eyes to what is going on.

possibly this Harvey?
https://thehawaiibusinessconsultant.com/

grant writing?
Deeds Not Words

Eric808

groveler

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2021, 09:48:15 AM »
trained and certified
Trained and certified by the USAF.
Do I count?
No.

drck1000

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2021, 10:28:34 AM »
Trained and certified by the USAF.
Do I count?
No.
groveler - you are somebody  :thumbsup:

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2021, 08:43:45 PM »
Hpd did not identify them selves could that be a factor in this case?

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/04/16/live-hpd-holds-news-conference-release-body-cam-footage-fatal-officer-involved-shooting/?outputType=amp

Yeah it could be a factor but given the rest of the context I can't see how it would make a big difference. If 2 guys show up with lights in your face and start yelling at you could claim you didn't realize they were police. However it wouldn't explain why you went into someone else's home

But it is a good point for police to watch their flashlight discipline. Good idea to bounce the light off a wall or ceiling so they can see you.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2021, 08:45:45 PM »
Seen on Hawaii viral feed that the guy was training kickboxing. You can hear the guys striking cadence as he’s beating on the officers. If he was some sort of amateur/professional fighter don’t they have to register there hands?

Register your hands as weapons is some stupid myth some pretend tough guy made up to sound impressive.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2021, 08:55:51 PM »
Register your hands as weapons is some stupid myth some pretend tough guy made up to sound impressive.

Pretend tough guy?  Didn't know Joe Louis was a pretend tough guy.

The "deadly weapons registration" was actually pretend, though.

Quote
Some sources state that it started with a professional heavyweight boxer named Joe Louis.
Apparently, Joe Louis hired people to appear at his weigh-ins dressed as policemen, during
which the ‘police’ would register his hands as deadly weapons in preparation for the fight.

However, this was only done as a publicity stunt, and the registration held no value, especially
considering the policemen present weren’t actually real police officers. After Joe Louis started
doing it as a stunt, the myth was likely perpetuated by trainers offering this registration as a
service.

https://combatmuseum.com/do-martial-artists-have-to-register-themselves-as-deadly-weapons/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2021, 09:03:32 PM »
Pretend tough guy?  Didn't know Joe Louis was a pretend tough guy.

The "deadly weapons registration" was actually pretend, though.

https://combatmuseum.com/do-martial-artists-have-to-register-themselves-as-deadly-weapons/

Interesting, thanks for the history lesson

stangzilla

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2021, 07:33:13 AM »
What I don’t understand is that how is police officers are allowed to shoot when they feel that their lives are in danger , and yet we are either have to chance to die or go to prison if we feel like our lives are in danger if we shoot someone, am I missing something? 🤷🏻‍♂️

depends which state you live in
Hawaii, you need a big dog

ren

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2021, 08:31:50 AM »
Deeds Not Words

oldfart

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2021, 08:46:03 AM »
What, Me Worry?

Kalikikopa

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2021, 07:49:55 PM »
Yeah it could be a factor but given the rest of the context I can't see how it would make a big difference. If 2 guys show up with lights in your face and start yelling at you could claim you didn't realize they were police. However it wouldn't explain why you went into someone else's home

But it is a good point for police to watch their flashlight discipline. Good idea to bounce the light off a wall or ceiling so they can see you.

Or why you were pounding them into the ground with potentially deadly force.

Rocky

Re: Hpd bodycam footage
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2021, 10:07:56 AM »
I've been to SA and met Zulu.
In certain areas, tribal leaders still cut off your hand if you are caught stealing and we saw lots of "leftie only" there.  :shake:
Stealing livestock can get you killed.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt