Magazine Restrictions (Read 14183 times)

Glasser

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #60 on: June 02, 2021, 08:29:07 PM »
Irrelevant, there are pistols which can take rifle magazines that wouldn't qualify as assault pistols. The law doesn't specify whether you own pistols capable of taking the magazine, only whether there are pistols which can take the magazines.

doesnt really explain why pistol caliber magazines that are curved in a 'banana' shape designed to go into carbines and cannot fit into a pistol arent available for purchase locally or allowed to be shipped into the state. 

eyeeatingfish

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #61 on: June 02, 2021, 08:31:37 PM »
doesnt really explain why pistol caliber magazines that are curved in a 'banana' shape designed to go into carbines and cannot fit into a pistol arent available for purchase locally or allowed to be shipped into the state.

I think that is because our AG sent threatening letters to suppliers and those stores aren't going to risk a legal conflict. It sucks but it is what it is.

I am just happy that they haven't used this law to start banning AR-15 30 round magazines

kptheplatypus

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2021, 08:39:28 PM »
Yup. According to the law they are technically illegal but never seen it enforced
That gun law verbiage is from 2018 as far as I can tell; does anyone know if it has been changed to anything more restrictive to include ARs? Is it legal or not? I assume it's a huge grey area and not such an easy task to say yes or no so definitively.
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omnigun

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2021, 09:10:50 PM »
Irrelevant, there are pistols which can take rifle magazines that wouldn't qualify as assault pistols. The law doesn't specify whether you own pistols capable of taking the magazine, only whether there are pistols which can take the magazines.

What pistol takes ar mags that is semi automatic and meets the other "AR" labels?  And is that pistol legal in hawaii?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #64 on: June 02, 2021, 09:20:35 PM »
What pistol takes ar mags that is semi automatic and meets the other "AR" labels?  And is that pistol legal in hawaii?

There are bolt action pistols. I recall seeing a remington 700 pistol and believe it took magazines, not sure if they were AR-15 mags though.

I had this odd idea of making a pump action AR-15 pistol. That would be an example where it wouldn't be assault pistol.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #65 on: June 02, 2021, 10:39:02 PM »
What pistol takes ar mags that is semi automatic and meets the other "AR" labels?  And is that pistol legal in hawaii?

Show me in the statute where the pistol that can accept a >10rd rifle mag must have a semi-auto action.

That's an assumption, as most pistols that use such capacity mags happen to be semi-auto.

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(c)  The manufacture, possession, sale, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquisition of detachable
ammunition magazines with a capacity in excess of ten rounds which are designed for or capable
of use with a pistol is prohibited.  This subsection shall not apply to magazines originally designed
to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition which have been modified to accept no more than
ten rounds and which are not capable of being readily restored to a capacity of more than ten rounds.

"Pistol".  Not "semi-auto pistol."

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"Pistol" or "revolver" means any firearm of any shape with a barrel less than sixteen inches in length
and capable of discharging loaded ammunition or any noxious gas.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2021, 06:15:49 AM »
And we have gone full circle.  Just go back a few pages this exact thing has been argued before.   

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2021, 12:11:33 PM »
And we have gone full circle.  Just go back a few pages this exact thing has been argued before.

By, "we", you mean YOU.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2021, 12:30:09 PM »
By, "we", you mean YOU.


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changemyoil66

Re: Magazine Restrictions
« Reply #69 on: June 03, 2021, 12:31:14 PM »
That gun law verbiage is from 2018 as far as I can tell; does anyone know if it has been changed to anything more restrictive to include ARs? Is it legal or not? I assume it's a huge grey area and not such an easy task to say yes or no so definitively.

The law has not been changed, but they tried 2 years in a row. Read my post about "pistol" to "firearm"