I'm not sure, just what I was told.  I know HPD also testified they needed more time to get the proper forms ready for sellers.

Also IDK if someone could tase someone else in a training scenario. I don't remember if can or no can.  But I do know as written, if a trainer uses a TENS unit on someone else, that would be illegal.

Oh no you don't.  No one does anything illegal here, but we are gonna see you tazed. . . 

I don’t know the dates for sure but there a few references to January 1, 2022 in the bill

“
     §134-B  Restrictions on use, sale, offer for sale, distribution, and transfer of electric guns and cartridges.  (a)  Beginning January 1, 2022, it shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly or recklessly use an electric gun for any purpose except:
     (1)  Self-defense;

     (2)  Defense of another person; or

     (3)  Protection of property of the person or of another person.”

“  §134-C  License to sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer electric guns or cartridges; fee.  (a)  Beginning January 1, 2022, any person desiring to sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer electric guns or cartridges to a person in the State, either at wholesale or retail, shall annually file an application for a license to do so with the county

I don’t know the dates for sure but there a few references to January 1, 2022 in the bill

“
     §134-B  Restrictions on use, sale, offer for sale, distribution, and transfer of electric guns and cartridges.  (a)  Beginning January 1, 2022, it shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly or recklessly use an electric gun for any purpose except:
     (1)  Self-defense;

     (2)  Defense of another person; or

     (3)  Protection of property of the person or of another person.”

“  §134-C  License to sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer electric guns or cartridges; fee.  (a)  Beginning January 1, 2022, any person desiring to sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer electric guns or cartridges to a person in the State, either at wholesale or retail, shall annually file an application for a license to do so with the county

So what you're telling us is that between July 1st and January 1st, it's open season on everyone....     

As for needing a license for a private sale of a stun gun, I don't interpret the law that way.

What 134-C states is:

§134-C License to sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer electric guns or cartridges; fee. (a) Any
person desiring to sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer electric guns or cartridges to a person in the State,
either at wholesale or retail, shall annually file an application for a license to do so with the county in which the
person desires to conduct business or within the county to which the person intends the electric guns or cartridges to be sold,
offered for sale, distributed, or otherwise transferred using forms prescribed by the county

The clause "either at wholesale or retail" is a giant flag to me that the licenses are intended for businesses, not private sales.  No private seller has a "wholesale or retail" price structure.

Every paragraph of the licensing portion is written in a way that applies to businesses and their employees.  There is no mention at all of private sales.

The paragraph that drives this interpretation home for me is §134-B(c):

(c) It shall be unlawful for a licensee or employee of a licensee to knowingly sell, offer to sell, distribute, or
otherwise transfer an electric gun or cartridge at a place other than the licensee’s designated place of business.

That place of business is included on the license application.  So, how can they limit you to a designated place of business if you aren't actually engaging in sales as a business?

I think "license" and "permit" are not synonymous.  Licenses are for businesses, and permits are for everyone else.

That's my interpretation.  I'm not a lawyer.  Seek advise from someone who knows the answers before taking my interpretation as "the law."

So what you're telling us is that between July 1st and January 1st, it's open season on everyone....     

I’m not saying anything.
That’s what our brilliant legislature wrote. 

It would activate the tourrettes. HEADDDSSS, HEADDDDSSS, HEADDDDSSS

We can taze him too!  Or stand next to him for "support" while you get tazed. . . 

Cool. Remember those funny toy tazers.. the ones that looked like old flip phones and bubble gum tin cans... the cell phone hurts.

Well imma have fun with my friends lol. Jk jk

Cool. Remember those funny toy tazers.. the ones that looked like old flip phones and bubble gum tin cans... the cell phone hurts.

Well imma have fun with my friends lol. Jk jk

aieahound has experience with those...

It's official. Effective January 1, 2022, tasers will be legal for purchase for regular citizens.

However, it appears you will not be able to legally carry one on your person in public. At least ownership is a good start.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/07/08/hawaii-citizens-can-legally-own-taser-starting-january-1/

Tasers are extremely effective in stopping someone, BUT, I can't see spending several hundred dollars on a very short range single shot weapon if I can only use it at home. In that case I would rather use my Glock or Rottweilers.  J Hara Store on the BI sells bear spray, which is another highly effective deterrent with 30 ft range.

It's official. Effective January 1, 2022, tasers will be legal for purchase for regular citizens.

However, it appears you will not be able to legally carry one on your person in public. At least ownership is a good start.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/07/08/hawaii-citizens-can-legally-own-taser-starting-january-1/

That's a bunch of hogwash.  Tasers are not a deadly weapon.  I carry a pocket knife and that's arguably more deadly. 

Tasers are extremely effective in stopping someone, BUT, I can't see spending several hundred dollars on a very short range single shot weapon if I can only use it at home. In that case I would rather use my Glock or Rottweilers.  J Hara Store on the BI sells bear spray, which is another highly effective deterrent with 30 ft range.

They also have non projectile versions.  I plan to get one of those. 

Karl Rhoads being a dick again

AXON products

https://www.axon.com/products/taser-7

https://www.axon.com/products/taser-x2

Both double shot options

One a taser, two a taser, everybody taser taser.......

Old Mcdonald had a farm........

Eee-eye eee-eye yo....

The question is does the taser fall under HRS134-51 "deadly or dangerous weapon".  If it does, then that means 1 can only open carry a taser.  Thoughts?

Our fav senator thinks it does. But the AG's testimony is that it doesn't.  Nothing in writing from the AG, just the verbal testimony.

The question is does the taser fall under HRS134-51 "deadly or dangerous weapon". 

Same way carrying even one round of ammo and no gun is carrying a deadly weapon. You cannot think rationally. You gotta think stupid, like our Hawaii lawmakers. Only then you will begin to understand their thinking.

Think they’ll eventually throw in the 5 year mandatory minimum sentence for use of a taser during the commission of a crime ?
10 years if it’s a two shot taser (semi-automatic) ?

Same way carrying even one round of ammo and no gun is carrying a deadly weapon. You cannot think rationally. You gotta think stupid, like our Hawaii lawmakers. Only then you will begin to understand their thinking.

Carrying ammo falls more under the "places to keep" law.  Ammo and guns are treated alike. So if you carry any ammo on you, then you need a OC/CCW permit.  Same goes with buying ammo, cannot buy from LGS and then go to starbucks after.

Carrying ammo falls more under the "places to keep" law.  Ammo and guns are treated alike. So if you carry any ammo on you, then you need a OC/CCW permit.  Same goes with buying ammo, cannot buy from LGS and then go to starbucks after.

Oh shit. I cudda gone jail. I wen visit my friend an he wen ask me if I lik one box 12 gauge and 1 box 9MM since he no mo dat kine gun any mo.  I wen put um on da floor of my kar behind da front seat an waz driving around wit um fo 4 days. Gud ting I wen take um out.