Not too sure how credible...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/japanese-official-warns-us-potential-200100225.html

We must be wary of the threat of China and Russia.   We need to strengthen our ties with Japan and our other allies.

We need a good old fashioned war to unify this country.
That is a guaranteed way to maga

We need a good old fashioned war to unify this country.
That is a guaranteed way to maga

I'm a pretty hawkish guy, but War is the last thing any thinking  person wants or
wishes for. Historically, peace is ALWAYS more economically beneficial to a society.
Keep in mind the next war will not be like the last one.
IIRC Vietnam was pretty divisive. I did not serve in-country, but served in the Strategic Air Command,
Vietnam era.
I was still called "baby killer".
War is BAD!
Aloha

War, what is it good for?

I'm a pretty hawkish guy, but War is the last thing any thinking  person wants or
wishes for. Historically, peace is ALWAYS more economically beneficial to a society.
Keep in mind the next war will not be like the last one.
IIRC Vietnam was pretty divisive. I did not serve in-country, but served in the Strategic Air Command,
Vietnam era.
I was still called "baby killer".
War is BAD!
Aloha

Agreed! But sometimes necessary! Much rather live at peace, unfortunately some people dont want that!

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This country is in a civil war.
There are 2 ways to stop a civil war.
1. One half of the country succumbs. Or...
2. The entire country unites against a common enemy.

Both methods work and result in an economic upswing.

This country is in a civil war.
There are 2 ways to stop a civil war.
1. One half of the country succumbs. Or...
2. The entire country unites against a common enemy.

Both methods work and result in an economic upswing.

InB4 someone makes a statement about not being in a civil war.  Yes, not a civil war like the one about slavery, but there are other types of civil wars.

This country is in a civil war.
There are 2 ways to stop a civil war.
1. One half of the country succumbs. Or...
2. The entire country unites against a common enemy.

Both methods work and result in an economic upswing.

Agreed we are in a "civil" war.  No doubt about that.
#1 is a possibility, population wise.
#2  I'm not so sure.  If the NORKs or Iran Nuked Wa D.C. I'd be tempted
to send them a thank you note.  I feel the same about a number of
Democrat run cities.

There a third possibility,
A Czechoslovakian style of divorce.
The cities go their own way, the rest of us continue as Americans.
Most Democrats think all their wealth comes from their cities and us poor rural
types are just millstones about their necks, then test that theory.
I'd be happy to let them buy me out of their Social security and medicare system.
I'll take my payment in Swiss Francs.
 

I'm a pretty hawkish guy, but War is the last thing any thinking  person wants or
wishes for. Historically, peace is ALWAYS more economically beneficial to a society.
Keep in mind the next war will not be like the last one.
IIRC Vietnam was pretty divisive. I did not serve in-country, but served in the Strategic Air Command,
Vietnam era.
I was still called "baby killer".
War is BAD!
Aloha

It depends on who the warring countries are and who wins.

Japan did great after losing to the US.  They were unable to spend on a large military, so they focused on economic superiority.

Germany did much the same.  I often wonder how much stronger today's Germany would be were it not for the Communist divide that created East and West territories. 

"To the victor goes the spoils" used to be the case, and still happens in conflicts that don't include the UN or US.  When we get involved, we don't pillage the vanquished.  We give them our wealth to rebuild.

So many lessons to be learned from the past.  So many rules that don't apply to the US.

War, what is it good for?

Job security.

The UN outlawed declarations of war and uses peace-keepers to enforce it.  In theory, that is.

Most countries don't go to war with other countries under a declaration now.  They just invade, then try to hang onto the land or resources they took when the hostilities cease.  Iraq didn't declare war on Kuwait, but a war it was.

Most armed conflicts today are between insurgents/terrorists, internal national forces (civil war), and attacks under the pretense of self defense.  Not many examples of actual war between nations since Vietnam ended.

When the US invaded Iraq, it was a big mess, in part because most of our laws deal with declared war settings.  If we didn't use the umbrella of the UN and our allies to push Hussein out of Kuwait and tried it on our own, would there have been the support of Congress it received?  I doubt it.

The landscape of war and its very definition has changed over the last 50 years.  Cold wars, civil wars, wars on drugs and poverty, cyber warfare, war on terror and so on have caused a shift in the reality of what "war" consists of.

Having said that, I think it's very unlikely the war between the US and China or Russia will be an armed conflict,  Not when there are SO many other ways we can hurt each other now.

  I often wonder how much stringer today's Germany would be were it not for the Communist divide that created East and West territories. 

Stringer ?

War, what is it good for?

Killing the poor

Stringer ?

I'm glad you're scouring my posts.  Maybe you'll learn something?

Until you start commenting on the content as opposed to calling out typos, I'm leaning toward, "Not in this lifetime."

Japan warns US a ‘Pearl Harbor’ style attack from China and Russia could happen

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/japan-warns-us-a-pearl-harbor-style-attack-from-china-and-russia-could-happen/

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I'm glad you're scouring my posts.  Maybe you'll learn something?
Until you start commenting on the content as opposed to calling out typos, I'm leaning toward, "Not in this lifetime."

In this instance, I’m trying to teach you something, not learn from you.
Except it appears you are resistant to learning due to arrogance.
These type of posts should be familiar to you and Mac and a few others.
You guys do it on the regular to OmniGrub.
 It’s OK if you do it to Forum Enemy No. 1 but not when it’s thrown back at your own glass house ? 
I could do it to Mac too, but he’s a Mod and might delete my posts.

You should gallop through a whole and you might get stringer. 

Sidetracked. Message sent.  Back to programming.

Japan warns US a ‘Pearl Harbor’ style attack from China and Russia could happen

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/japan-warns-us-a-pearl-harbor-style-attack-from-china-and-russia-could-happen/

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Boeing 737 goes down off coast of Hawaii near Honolulu – Updates here

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/boeing-737-goes-down-off-coast-of-hawaii-near-honolulu-updates-here/

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Boeing 737 goes down off coast of Hawaii near Honolulu – Updates here

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/07/boeing-737-goes-down-off-coast-of-hawaii-near-honolulu-updates-here/

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Blame Trump.

The landscape of war and its very definition has changed over the last 50 years.  Cold wars, civil wars, wars on drugs and poverty, cyber warfare, war on terror and so on have caused a shift in the reality of what "war" consists of.

Having said that, I think it's very unlikely the war between the US and China or Russia will be an armed conflict,  Not when there are SO many other ways we can hurt each other now.

It is amazing how some armchair soldiers and even out-of-touch veterans still have not come to grips with what you said.

In the age of nuclear weapons, mass invasions, nationwide carpet bombing, long-range missile attacks, etc., which have been and currently are the strengths, of the US imperial military, are obsolete relics of WWII-type warfare and out-the-question, between nuclear arms peers.  China and Russia especially know this, as it explains why they have not tried to establish imperial garrisons all over the planet, as does the US empire.  Those far-away outposts, themselves, are not only endless money-pits, but are also obsolete imperial fixtures, given the capabilities, of tactical nukes.

I would even venture to offer that there are a number of people on this forum, who could easily devise an effective strategy to defeat the US empire without heavy reliance on the traditional military. Full-spectrum cyberwarfare, crashing the US dollar and/or moving to another currency-of-trade, and the creation of new economic blocks or exclusive trade zones, on a global basis, are but a few 21st weapons of war that can effortlessly sidestep the military might, of the US empire.

However, as said numerous times before, China and Russia does not even need to do any of the above, as the the US empire itself, is rapidly declining from within.  The only real mission the militaries, of both China and Russia, is to prepare for the geopolitical vacuum, after the collapse, of the US empire; which could suddenly happen much sooner than its subject citizens realize.