Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt (Read 12141 times)

aletheuo137

groveler

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2021, 09:06:35 AM »
I may be a little off but I made that decision when I was in the second grade.
I remember the anti- Goldwater commercials and I would be nuked if that guy was
elected.
My parents( at the time) step father and mother were apolitical,  I decided on my
own at that time that Democrats were full of it.
It took me a few more years to decide some Republicans were also full of it,
Nixon with his price controls and non-sun-setting EPA.
I operate on facts and data; I rarely give anything or anybody the benefit
of the doubt. :geekdanc:


Flapp_Jackson

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2021, 01:24:02 PM »
I may be a little off but I made that decision when I was in the second grade.
I remember the anti- Goldwater commercials and I would be nuked if that guy was
elected.
My parents( at the time) step father and mother were apolitical,  I decided on my
own at that time that Democrats were full of it.
It took me a few more years to decide some Republicans were also full of it,
Nixon with his price controls and non-sun-setting EPA.
I operate on facts and data; I rarely give anything or anybody the benefit
of the doubt. :geekdanc:

It only takes 3 election cycles (about 8-10 years) to see how full of it the Left is.

When they continually run to fix the same problems EVEN AFTER THEY'VE WON OFFICE MOST OF THAT TIME, it's all too obvious that they have no solutions -- only "issues" for their campaigns.

If they actually solved anything, they'd have to educate the public on the horrors of some other crisis. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2021, 01:41:05 PM »
It only takes 3 election cycles (about 8-10 years) to see how full of it the Left is.

When they continually run to fix the same problems EVEN AFTER THEY'VE WON OFFICE MOST OF THAT TIME, it's all too obvious that they have no solutions -- only "issues" for their campaigns.

If they actually solved anything, they'd have to educate the public on the horrors of some other crisis.

This is why they all look at Trump with a blind hatred, he literally did solve EVERYTHING Ds & Rs have campaigned on for many decades and he did it in less than 2 yrs. Unemployment, Stagnant Wages, Dependence on Foreign Oil, a failing Economy, a shrinking Middle Class, conflict in the Middle East, Endless Wars, etc, etc. He proved if you were willing to come to DC to fix things instead of enriching yourself all these forever problems can get handled in a matter of months.
He literally stole the entire Dem platform so they were forced to make up non-problems and resurrect the ghosts of pre 1960s Southern Racism to have something anything to pretend to champion.

Trump handled all that so easily Biden literally has to undo every single piece of it and break the country just so the Dems  can say 'We need to fix this mess, vote for us".

An Orange Game Show host embarrassed the hell out of career politicians and showed you exactly how inept they are and only in it to hold status.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2021, 01:45:05 PM »
This is why they all look at Trump with a blind hatred, he literally did solve EVERYTHING Ds & Rs have campaigned on for many decades and he did it in less than 2 yrs. Unemployment, Stagnant Wages, Dependence on Foreign Oil, a failing Economy, a shrinking Middle Class, conflict in the Middle East, Endless Wars, etc, etc. He proved if you were willing to come to DC to fix things instead of enriching yourself all there forever problems can get handled in a matter of months.
He literally stole the entire Dem platform so they were forced to make up non-problems and resurrect the ghosts of pre 1960s Southern Racism to have something anything to pretend to champion.

Trump handled all that so easily Biden literally has to undo every single piece of it and break the country just so the Dems  can say 'We need to fix this mess, vote for us".

The Dems thank God everyday for the Pandemic.  Without such a massive problem, they would have never been able to remove Trump from office.

Impeachment failed, so rigging the election under the flag of "Emergency Pandemic Election Rules" was all they had.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2021, 01:53:42 PM »
The Dems thank God everyday for the Pandemic.  Without such a massive problem, they would have never been able to remove Trump from office.

Impeachment failed, so rigging the election under the flag of "Emergency Pandemic Election Rules" was all they had.

And now that they do have control of the country they do not have the first clue what to do with it, 100% of their focus, agenda and bill passing is aimed at a single thing .... maintaining their control. Not a single piece of legislation or spending has been about the citizens, it has only been directed at bolstering the Dem power structure.

Ironically, if you look back at history, this is how 'a Hitler' does appear and ends up rising to power. people decide 'Well if I am gonna have to live under a kind of fascism, I'll pick the one that isnt trying to keep me poor and wants to diddle my kids'

MauiAxis

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2021, 07:11:28 PM »
Other than not get in the way of rapid production of vaccines, what beneficial things  did Trump do that made you all join the Trump Cult Syndrome (TCS)?

Glasser

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2021, 07:37:46 PM »
Other than not get in the way of rapid production of vaccines, what beneficial things  did Trump do that made you all join the Trump Cult Syndrome (TCS)?

I made a short list in this thread, I guess you missed it.

He fixed  Unemployment, Stagnant Wages, Dependence on Foreign Oil, the failing Obama Economy, increased the Middle Class, stopped conflicts in the Middle East, and didnt get us into another  Endless War.


Flapp_Jackson

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2021, 10:20:20 PM »
I made a short list in this thread, I guess you missed it.

He fixed  Unemployment, Stagnant Wages, Dependence on Foreign Oil, the failing Obama Economy, increased the Middle Class, stopped conflicts in the Middle East, and didnt get us into another  Endless War.

Pretty much everything Trump did was listed time and again on non-MSM outlets.  If you haven't seen that list, I'm not surprised.

A biggie was immigration.  He made great progress in reducing the numbers of immigrants trying to cross into the US illegally by getting Mexico to halt that stream of people from Central America at the Mexican southern border. 

Not to mention 2 Supreme Court appointments, 245 federal judges appointed, making 30% of the appeals courts judges Trump appointees.

Then there's the Middle East deals he brokered to create the beginnings of peace between Israel and the Arab nations.

Removing the US from the Paris Climate Change Accord scam.

Ushered in a historic period of improved relations with North Korea.

Created the US Space Force.

Pulled troops from Syria.

Force NATO allies to finally start paying more of their fair share to support NATO missions.

Canceled the Obamacare/ACA "penalty"/tax.

Lowered the tax rate for everyone.

Reduced government regulations which were hindering private businesses.

Spurred a massive reinvestment in the US economy by reducing corporate taxes.  All that "off-shored" money came pouring into the economy instead of into the hands of the IRS.

Renegotiated the failed NAFTA agreement.

Stopped China's unethical manipulation of US currency.  Added tariffs to even the playing field and bring US companies and jobs back to the US.

That's not even touching on all the domestic successes he's had, like improving economic and educational programs in Urban/Black neighborhoods, etc,, etc.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2021, 06:20:45 AM »
I made a short list in this thread, I guess you missed it.

He fixed  Unemployment, Stagnant Wages, Dependence on Foreign Oil, the failing Obama Economy, increased the Middle Class, stopped conflicts in the Middle East, and didnt get us into another  Endless War.

So Biden pulling out of Afghanistan, not getting in a war,   currently increasing wages and economy getting back in track isn't good?  Oh and trying to find alternatives to oil, then again that's a negative right.  🙄

omnigun

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2021, 06:26:12 AM »
Pretty much everything Trump did was listed time and again on non-MSM outlets.  If you haven't seen that list, I'm not surprised.

A biggie was immigration.  He made great progress in reducing the numbers of immigrants trying to cross into the US illegally by getting Mexico to halt that stream of people from Central America at the Mexican southern border. 

I'll give you this he did good on immigration.

Not to mention 2 Supreme Court appointments, 245 federal judges appointed, making 30% of the appeals courts judges Trump appointees.

Not really an accomplishment.   He picked two names...

Then there's the Middle East deals he brokered to create the beginnings of peace between Israel and the Arab nations.

True, but he basically gave Syria to Russia.

Removing the US from the Paris Climate Change Accord scam.

Not a scam

Ushered in a historic period of improved relations with North Korea.

Not really,  they still had nukes,  still did tests,  etc

Created the US Space Force.

Ok

Pulled troops from Syria.

Not really a good thing

Force NATO allies to finally start paying more of their fair share to support NATO missions.

To be seen,  not sure if they followed through.

Canceled the Obamacare/ACA "penalty"/tax.

Bad thing

Lowered the tax rate for everyone.

Not everyone

Reduced government regulations which were hindering private businesses.

Meh, to be determined

Spurred a massive reinvestment in the US economy by reducing corporate taxes.  All that "off-shored" money came pouring into the economy instead of into the hands of the IRS.

No it didn't

Renegotiated the failed NAFTA agreement.

True not sure how good the new deal will be

Stopped China's unethical manipulation of US currency.  Added tariffs to even the playing field and bring US companies and jobs back to the US.

He failed on China

That's not even touching on all the domestic successes he's had, like improving economic and educational programs in Urban/Black neighborhoods, etc,, etc.

Not really

changemyoil66

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2021, 07:16:06 AM »
So Biden pulling out of Afghanistan, not getting in a war,   currently increasing wages and economy getting back in track isn't good?  Oh and trying to find alternatives to oil, then again that's a negative right. 
Doesnt understand how stuff works.

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changemyoil66

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2021, 07:16:57 AM »

Sarcasm?

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changemyoil66

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2021, 08:52:27 AM »
We really covered most of this in previous threads. I guess you forgot, sarcasm or TDS kicked in.

Here is a slight refresher as to not take up too much time.

1) Google ISIS/Syria/Russia and how ISIS was created in Syria.
2) Google which US President walked into N. Korea and stuff about the Korea War still going on at that time
3) Google what the Barry care penalty was and tell me how eliminating that was a "bad thing"
4) When Trump reduced gov regulations, google what AT&T, T-Mobile, Apple, etc...did for their employees and company
5) Google what we were trading to China due to Trumps policy/tariff

There is no need to respond to this post because we have already covered most of it and we circled back again. But do Google the above or feel free to go back and read/find the post about said topics.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2021, 01:43:40 PM »
So Biden pulling out of Afghanistan, not getting in a war,   currently increasing wages and economy getting back in track isn't good?  Oh and trying to find alternatives to oil, then again that's a negative right.  🙄

Actually, it was Trump who ordered the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.  The only thing Biden did was move the date up from 9/11/2021 to August.

When the economy and unemployment drop to records lows, it doesn't take a genius to see them recover to a point.  So far, Biden has yet to exceed Trump's record numbers.  Until he does, he gets no credit.  It fact, nothing Biden has done has had any positive effect on the economy.  He's paying people to not work.  That reduces GDP because the government doesn't produce anything.  It only takes from the economy and redistributes. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2021, 01:51:06 PM »
We really covered most of this in previous threads. I guess you forgot, sarcasm or TDS kicked in.

Here is a slight refresher as to not take up too much time.

1) Google ISIS/Syria/Russia and how ISIS was created in Syria.
2) Google which US President walked into N. Korea and stuff about the Korea War still going on at that time
3) Google what the Barry care penalty was and tell me how eliminating that was a "bad thing"
4) When Trump reduced gov regulations, google what AT&T, T-Mobile, Apple, etc...did for their employees and company
5) Google what we were trading to China due to Trumps policy/tariff

There is no need to respond to this post because we have already covered most of it and we circled back again. But do Google the above or feel free to go back and read/find the post about said topics.

If Trump posted that the sky is blue, OmniGrub would argue just for the thrill of arguing.

He's riddled with TDS, so nothing about Trump can ever be positive.  The immigration bullet was the only thing he actually "gave me", but that's because the Biden dumbasses made the problem 1,000 times worse than before Trump.

He wants to argue every accomplishment based on his own OPINION of the success each created.  Every decision has a cost, but Trump maximized the benefits.  All OG wants to focus on are the costs.

Someone who never volunteered to join the military should think more carefully before deciding that bringing our troops home after decades, or even a few years, is a mistake.  It's so easy to play Monday morning quarterback when you don't have to suit up to play.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2021, 01:54:01 PM »
Oh yes Syria, Obama and McCain  handled that so well....

In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA



https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html


Joke of that is the whole purpose of trying to topple Syria is to run a massive pipeline thru the country to the ocean to make globalists billions moving Saudi and Qatari oil to the US instead of moving Iranian oil to Russia like Assad is doing now.


« Last Edit: July 19, 2021, 02:42:38 PM by Glasser »

changemyoil66

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2021, 02:04:13 PM »
Oh yes Syria, Obama and McCain that  handled that so well....

In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA



https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html


Joke of that is the whole purpose of trying to topple Syria is to run a massive pipeline thru the country to the ocean to make globalists billions moving Saudi and Qatari oil to the US instead of moving Iranian oil to Russia like Assad is doing now.

I told omni to google this, not you. Thanks for taking the fun out of it. But TBH, I doubt he would have looked into it anyways.  Or had some ridiculous statement that Trump is to blame or something.

changemyoil66

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2021, 02:06:14 PM »
Actually, it was Trump who ordered the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.  The only thing Biden did was move the date up from 9/11/2021 to August.

When the economy and unemployment drop to records lows, it doesn't take a genius to see them recover to a point.  So far, Biden has yet to exceed Trump's record numbers.  Until he does, he gets no credit.  It fact, nothing Biden has done has had any positive effect on the economy.  He's paying people to not work.  That reduces GDP because the government doesn't produce anything.  It only takes from the economy and redistributes.

Governors/Mayors closed businesses  so the economy went down.  Now businesses allowed to open again and economy goes up.  And it's thanks to Biden?  IDK if sarcastic when he made the statement or retarded.

Still doesn't econ101

aletheuo137

Re: Charlie Kirk | Stop Giving The Benefit of the Doubt
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2021, 02:08:55 PM »
I told omni to google this, not you. Thanks for taking the fun out of it. But TBH, I doubt he would have looked into it anyways.  Or had some ridiculous statement that Trump is to blame or something.
Its because of Trump's lawsuit against tech companies why I can't Google it!

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