Hpd making stuff up again. They are telling vendors that hpd must do the background check. Which is not what the law says.

And theyre saying a 6 hr class must be done. Again, law has no time limit.

Day 1 of tasers being legal and already they messing up.

Based on the way the law is written, the state is trying to create a "choke point" at the retail side so the buyers have almost no options for acquiring Tasers.  This is also obvious in the part that prohibits transferring a Taser you own to anyone else unless you, too, are a licensee.

The legislature put as many hurdles as they could into the bill so the citizen wanting to get one will have a hard time finding a licensee who carries the product they want.

It'll be interesting to see how the Taser makers fare with being able to sell and ship to Hawaii buyers.

Based on the way the law is written, the state is trying to create a "choke point" at the retail side so the buyers have almost no options for acquiring Tasers.  This is also obvious in the part that prohibits transferring a Taser you own to anyone else unless you, too, are a licensee.

The legislature put as many hurdles as they could into the bill so the citizen wanting to get one will have a hard time finding a licensee who carries the product they want.

It'll be interesting to see how the Taser makers fare with being able to sell and ship to Hawaii buyers.

In this case the state is wrong. The law specifically states the seller must do the check.

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In this case the state is wrong. The law specifically states the seller must do the check.

And with every new requirement the state makes the seller handle, it represents a cost in record keeping, in-house training, and labor -- time needed to comply with the law.

Taking the process of doing BG checks from HPD and giving it to the retailers is a "workaround", because the police department told the people working on the bill they didn't have the resources necessary to add Tazers to the list of requirements they already do for firearms.

Maybe if the retailers get the process down to an art, we can then push to have them do ALL background checks.  Hmmmm.   Go the the gun shop, buy a handgun, the FFL does all the paperwork, submits the background check, and approves the application in-store.  No running back and forth between the store and HPD.

Now, if the waiting period could be abolished, we'd be getting somewhere!

I think at some point, HPD is going to realize the Tazer law as written is unable to be implemented effectively.

Mo betta jus go buy one wen you go Vegas.  Anybody go to da Taser thingy today?

https://www.kitv.com/news/local/tasers-and-stun-guns-now-legal-in-hawaii-by-permit/article_27f630ae-6b86-11ec-8fcd-27cb7f11788d.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KITV4

So much wrong info in this article.

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Even though I don’t plan to buy a Taser, I have been closely following this as it is probably a precursor to what kind of hoops our Legislature will want us to jump through if they are forced to allow some sort of firearm carry.  Even Taser's website, which has a big announcement about how Tasers are now legal in Hawaii, won't sell you one.  They are saying you need to buy it from a certified trainer after receiving training.  I thought the law said no permit or training was required for the purchaser, but obviously I was wrong.  So the 20% discount coupon they sent me is useless unless a seller here is going to honor it, which I doubt.  I can just imagine the bullshit you will have to go through if open or concealed carry was forced upon Hawaii by a SCOTUS ruling.  If you think this Taser bullshit is bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Hawaii has got this Taser thing on lockdown - can't say the same for aerial fireworks

This is my stance on the current Taser issue in Hawaii: 

I don't plan to buy one.

I'm watching if current gun laws will be altered or re-written for the worse since we "now" have another alternative to defending ourselves.

Will our beloved Hawaii "leaders" take a stance that since Tasers are legal, there is no need for firearms?

Will they "crucify" a firearm owner if he uses a firearm in a self defense situation?  Will they question why he didn't use a Taser?  Will they require all firearm owners to purchase Tasers and make laws that state a firearm used in Liew of a Taser will be considered a felony?

Some might say these ideas are paranoid and far fetched in a civil and logical society.

But they fail to see that we are in Hawaii.  I haven't seen much of that coming out of the state capitol lately. 

https://www.kitv.com/news/local/tasers-and-stun-guns-now-legal-in-hawaii-by-permit/article_27f630ae-6b86-11ec-8fcd-27cb7f11788d.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KITV4

So much wrong info in this article.

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When you use the taser "There will still be consequences" 

When you use the taser "There will still be consequences" 

I expect to get sued by someone when you use any kind of force to protect yourself.

When will Hawaii be in the corner of the law-abiding citizens. 

They always seem to be in the corner of the criminals.  Bleeding hearts.  They deserve second chances.  They are victims of the economy and hard times.  Minority bias.  And countless other bullshit crap.

When they allow repeat offenders to go free or fail to charge them for their crimes, they are essentially telling the law abiding citizens "f**k you".  But don't forget to pay your taxes.......

Sort of off-topic.  Sorry.

I would have bought this wireless 2 shot electric gun, but unfortunately can't find a source and they might not even being made any more.
https://wattozz.com/wattozz-the-worlds-best-non-lethal-weapon/

When will Hawaii be in the corner of the law-abiding citizens. 

They always seem to be in the corner of the criminals.  Bleeding hearts.  They deserve second chances.  They are victims of the economy and hard times.  Minority bias.  And countless other bullshit crap.

When they allow repeat offenders to go free or fail to charge them for their crimes, they are essentially telling the law abiding citizens "f**k you".  But don't forget to pay your taxes.......

Sort of off-topic.  Sorry.

Bill to allow schedule 1 narcotics to be legal (meth) like 1 page. OG taser bill for law abiding citizens, 50 pages.

When you use the taser "There will still be consequences" 

I've yet to see these swamp critters say, "If you break the law and attempt to inflict violence on innocent people, there will be consequences."

I dont forsee this happening because the stores have many hoops to jump thru. I estimate end of Jan at the earliest which is my opinion.

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So CMO is going to get stunned early-mid Feb then.   

So CMO is going to get stunned early-mid Feb then.   

Cannot, per the law. Shucks.

So CMO is going to get stunned early-mid Feb then.   

Cannot, per the law. Shucks.

    You guys crack me up!!

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Cannot, per the law. Shucks.

We didn't say it has to occur in Hawaii. . . :hmm:

  You guys crack me up!!

Have you seen Hangover?

 

A couple of my college buddies were LE in WA State after graduation.  One of them volunteered to be the "aggressor" and rush a trainee.  He's a stocky, bowling ball shaped guy.  Pretty funny if you know him, but kinda scary if you don't know him and hes rushing at you.  Anyways, "ahhh" and my buddy goes charging.  Pzzzt. . .

Down and faceplant on the blue mat.  He said that thing just stopped him in his tracks.  Of course, he got a video and thus the start of bets for who would do it. . . so when CMO volunteered