Wow. You post like you actually know him.
Do you ?
And how can anyone be right or wrong in a religion thread ?

And science determining values is malarkey, in my opinion.
Just look at nature.
But science is not religion. Hopefully folks don’t elevate it to such because it changes all the time.

Courtesy is a dying art.

You need a new hobby, TrollBoy.  Stalking me is just pathetic. 

Courtesy?  LOL!!  What a hypocrite!

"But science is not religion. Hopefully folks don’t elevate it to such because it changes all the time. "

You forgot "in my opinion."   

You really don’t have any answers.
It’s getting embarrassing for you.
Your low hanging fruit attacking low hanging fruit. Umni not me to be clear.
  (Well I don’t know if you’re embarrassed but you should be.)

Edit: in my opinion.

You really don’t have any answers.
It’s getting embarrassing for you.
Your low hanging fruit.

All you're posting are questions -- No answers -- sprinkled with emotional feelings about what you questioned.

And stalking me like the little  AHole Troll we all know you to be.

Grow up, little TrollBoy.

Wow. You post like you actually know him.
Do you ?
And how can anyone be right or wrong in a religion thread ?

Except….science determining values is malarkey, in my opinion.
Just look at nature.
But science is not religion. Hopefully folks don’t elevate it to such because it changes all the time.

Courtesy is a dying art.

If u been reading his post  since last year, u will know him.

Flapp is on to something that would explain a lot. Either that or Glassers hypothesis of a disability.

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If u been reading his post  since last year, u will know him.

Flapp is on to something that would explain a lot. Either that or Glassers hypothesis of a disability.

Thanks for seeing through the AHole Troll's attack. 

Omni displays quite a few symptoms of arrested development, lack of moral and ethical values, and a deep desire to always be right (narcissism). 

The #1 influence is not the Internet, but parents.  Kids imitate them and model themselves in their parents' images.  It only stands to reason that his personality, lack of moral character and need to argue is a learned behavior.

Even when he apologizes, he offers rationalizations and excuses -- assuming the apology was even sincere.

Anyone who makes it beyond their 20th birthday and can't understand right and wrong has been raised by parents with the same deficiency.  That, or they were brainwashed during their school years.

It's fine to accept that others might not have the same morals as you, but to be so completely lacking in your own ideals of right and wrong is just scary.  For someone "not afraid" to voice an opinion, he has been unable to make a judgement on whether certain issue positions are right or wrong based on his personal values.

In short, if he's never been told what to think, he argues that nobody's values should be used to decide.

I was raised by excellent parents.   I've made my morals quite clear,  sad you can't understand them.  Every position I have taken a stance.  The thing about lawyers is its based on facts and science and what can be proved.  Right and wrong is subjective and constantly changing.

I was raised by excellent parents.   I've made my morals quite clear,  sad you can't understand them.  Every position I have taken a stance.  The thing about lawyers is its based on facts and science and what can be proved.  Right and wrong is subjective and constantly changing.

"Facts & Science" = Morals

Morals = "Right and Wrong"

"Right & Wrong" = "subjective"

If morals comprise what's right & wrong and are subjective, how can facts and science be the basis of morals?

Circular reasoning that contradicts itself.

What if someone uses faulty science or doesnt understand what the science is saying? Can they still use it to determine their values/morals/ethics?

Then should 1 correct their beliefs once shown their understanding of what the science is stating is wrong? And what if theyre still too dumb to understand?

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Certainly a possibility. I think when slavery was practiced they actually thought black people were lesser beings which, in their minds at least, justified their domination.

Some monkey species also comit rape, so maybe it is beneficial, which set of data do we use?

Why do you need to know if something is right or wrong.   Thats the question.   Does that matter?   As for a successful society,  evolution and natural selection will "aim" for that regardless.   Theres no need to "try".  It will happen over time.

That isn't a justification to outlaw things though. Other animals in the animal kingdom commit rape, and I think that it could be argued that rape is beneficial in certain circumstances even among humans, like for example raping the enemy.

Science cannot provide a justification or a basis of what something is right or wrong, that is the bottom line. An atheist has no other recourse than to say something should be illegal because "I don't like it"

Certainly a possibility. I think when slavery was practiced they actually thought black people were lesser beings which, in their minds at least, justified their domination.

Some monkey species also comit rape, so maybe it is beneficial, which set of data do we use?

Science also said blacks cant see well at night (tuskegee airmen).

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If u been reading his post  since last year, u will know him.
Flapp is on to something that would explain a lot. Either that or Glassers hypothesis of a disability.

I’ve read them.
And it still blows my mind they get under members skin.
Ignore him? Doesn’t seem like many are trying that strategy. And he loves it.
Except some which I address directly ( see suicide comment by him. That one kinda blew my mind. )
Keep people’s parents out of it.
Parents. That’s considering a kid has two parents, or a parent, at home with time to spend with them.
Disability I don’t know. Can people rag on disabilities ? Clearly they can. But should they ?
That’s morality and ethics.

Omni displays quite a few symptoms of arrested development, lack of moral and ethical values, and a deep desire to always be right (narcissism). 

Flapp junior ?

Ethics and morality ?
Check Flapp’s positive transactions. First one is with himself. Mauidog. Ethical ?
I’ll answer. No.
Liar ? I’ll let you folks judge.

Anyone who is listening to me and taking my opinions seriously needs to sign a release. I take zero responsibility for anyone who takes seriously  a single thing I say even when I am 100% correct, which is most of the time. 

"Facts & Science" = Morals

Morals = "Right and Wrong"

"Right & Wrong" = "subjective"

If morals comprise what's right & wrong and are subjective, how can facts and science be the basis of morals?

Circular reasoning that contradicts itself.

i bet he says he's still not wrong...

"Facts & Science" = Morals

Morals = "Right and Wrong"

"Right & Wrong" = "subjective"

If morals comprise what's right & wrong and are subjective, how can facts and science be the basis of morals?

Circular reasoning that contradicts itself.

Subjective in today's world.   Look how many times what's deemed
 fine before gets changed to being wrong.   

Subjective in today's world.   Look how many times what's deemed
 fine before gets changed to being wrong.

So, are you suggesting you don't live in "today's world," and that your arguments and definitions "are not wrong today" as long as they "might possibly be right one day?"

Anyone who is listening to me and taking my opinions seriously needs to sign a release. I take zero responsibility for anyone who takes seriously  a single thing I say even when I am 100% correct, which is most of the time.

Omni takes zero responsibility for any and everything he says, too. 

 

So, are you suggesting you don't live in "today's world," and that your arguments and definitions "are not wrong today" as long as they "might possibly be right one day?"

No my beliefs are not the same adopted by the majority in "todays" world.  Ruled by religion and social justice warriors etc.

The Tao of Pooh and the Te of piglet.
Highly recommended reading.
Tao of Pooh if you’re only gonna read one. (Taoism explained based on Winnie the Pooh)

No my beliefs are not the same adopted by the majority in "todays" world.  Ruled by religion and social justice warriors etc.

Just when you thought he couldn't get any worse, he posts this ^^^.

I thought you only used facts and data in your decision-making.

What beliefs do you hold that are not the same adopted by the majority in "today's" world?

You think today's WORLD is ruled by religion and social justice warriors?  You need to travel outside Hawaii and get to know what "today's world" actually looks like.

Just when you thought he couldn't get any worse, he posts this ^^^.

I thought you only used facts and data in your decision-making.

What beliefs do you hold that are not the same adopted by the majority in "today's" world?

You think today's WORLD is ruled by religion and social justice warriors?  You need to travel outside Hawaii and get to know what "today's world" actually looks like.

He thinks by not going with the majority, makes him special and correct. Like how socialist scream about socialism, while wearing nike, have a smart phone, and drinking starbucks.

Same way he thinks hes helping the planet by being green, even though he isnt doing anything most of us here already are doing.

Feelings over reality.

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