.22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations (Read 160713 times)

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2021, 07:43:59 PM »

Just for fun....
Pinay with winchester 52A's
(pic shot just before WW2)

I have a huge soft spot for 52s, the bank account can not support the addiction though.  ;)

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2021, 07:49:18 PM »
What would the advantage be of say going with a complete gun from Anschutz as opposed to a custom build?

I would think a complete gun from (what I assume is) a very reputable and well known company carries a lot of value/weight.  However, one the flip side, I would think if one is spending that kind of money, they would want to get the exact setup they want, including chassis, barrel, etc.  Or maybe "that kind of money" isn't scratching the surface yet for .22 lr precision rifles.   :shake:

Don't see myself going anywhere near that realm any time soon, but was wondering.  For now, I'm saving up, or more like trying to space out larger purchases just before ordering the finishing touches to my bolt gun.  The glass is the main one, but the components like scope mount, bipod and attachments, we well as a better range finder all add up.

I'll add, if you are buying let's say a Anschutz, that is a quality rifle. I feel for the money of the higher end stuff, you could probably have a custom built for the same price. I know guys that did both

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2021, 08:11:33 PM »
Zermatt Arms RimX receiver is what you want. You can build exactly what you want that is if you're building a PRS style build. A BR rifle would be best  with a Stiller 2500X, Turbo, Falcon, etc.... action built by a reputable gunsmith like Calfee IMO. The experienced rimfire specific gunsmiths have barrels, actions, etc that they prefer. The turn around time will be long. Joe Cachon if going semi auto rimfire. The rabbit hole is deep. Like I said, there is nothing cheap about precision rimfire just like LR and ELR shooting.
I’m gonna start ignoring your posts.  Haha. Totally kidding. Great info. Thankfully I really can’t, or shouldn’t be delving into that realm. Shouldn’t… haha

That said, I’m also the type to talk myself into the higher end once I do get serious. Not really looking for any style, but PRS-ish is what I am going for with center fire.

I'll add, if you are buying let's say a Anschutz, that is a quality rifle. I feel for the money of the higher end stuff, you could probably have a custom built for the same price. I know guys that did both
Good to know. This is def one arena where I don’t know jack, just that shooting .22 lr rifles are fun.

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2021, 09:03:24 PM »
I’m gonna start ignoring your posts.

Everyone ignores me as they should.  :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc: I know a little about the rimfire game though.....

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2021, 07:50:16 AM »
Everyone ignores me as they should.  :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc: I know a little about the rimfire game though.....
I don't ignore you.  Had seen your posts about .22 lr rifle shooting before.  Always happy to learn from experienced folks.   :shaka:

My shooting interests tends to wax and wane with the usual constant being pistol shooting.  Have long been interested in .22 lr rifle, but just never got around to jumping in. 

changemyoil66

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2021, 08:30:59 AM »
I don't ignore you.  Had seen your posts about .22 lr rifle shooting before.  Always happy to learn from experienced folks.   :shaka:

My shooting interests tends to wax and wane with the usual constant being pistol shooting.  Have long been interested in .22 lr rifle, but just never got around to jumping in.

Bushido is the 22 master. He helped me out lots when I 1st got 1.

For me, 22 is way more challenging, esp at 100rds.  Wind makes a diff, compared to a 308 where at 100yrds, the wind make little difference.  Even at 50 yards, I've noticed the wind makes a diff.  So because we don't have easy access to a 500+ yard range, 22 would be the way to go if you like the challenge of environmental factors when shooting.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2021, 08:45:46 AM »
Bushido is the 22 master. He helped me out lots when I 1st got 1.

For me, 22 is way more challenging, esp at 100rds.  Wind makes a diff, compared to a 308 where at 100yrds, the wind make little difference.  Even at 50 yards, I've noticed the wind makes a diff.  So because we don't have easy access to a 500+ yard range, 22 would be the way to go if you like the challenge of environmental factors when shooting.
Yeah, I recall seeing that.  Good stuff.  Hope you can help others in the future, which you already do with HDF stuff.  Eventually shooting matches? 

The magnification of things from centerfire is an aspect of 22 rifles that I do want.  At least to a certain extent for now.  My initial interest in 22 rifle is cheaper plinking shooting, particularly at the silhouette range for those tiny steel targets/pieces.  For centerfire, I've noticed that 300-600 ish is "relatively" straight forward.  Then the 1000 range is a challenge.  Unfortunately, I currently don't have opportunity that often to shoot in the 600-1000 yard gap.  That said, I would think even 200 yards for 22 rifles would be a VERY good challenge for me.  Heck, even 100 yards will be a challenge. 

ren

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2021, 09:37:50 AM »
Anschutz triggers are the best
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stangzilla

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2021, 12:22:57 PM »
  My initial interest in 22 rifle is cheaper plinking shooting, particularly at the silhouette range for those tiny steel targets/pieces. 

I originally got my Ruger American 22LR for a practice gun for my Ruger American 308.  and to replace my 10/22 that I gave to my nephew
I shoot regularly at the silhouette side, and the American 22LR shoots very well there.  can consistently hit the small targets at 100m using the Primary Arms 22LR scope which is a fixed 6x magnification with ACSS reticle.  so i use the BDC and wind hold overs if needed on the scope to hit targets at 75m and 100m. it is zero'd at 50, then i line up target at 75m at the bottom of the circle on the ACSS reticle, or the first hash mark on the scope for targets at 100m.
it's an effective and inexpensive setup for the silhouette range.  I'm realistic.  I rarely shoot longer than 100 yards/meters, and when i do go longer I'll usually use my 308 bolt gun or AR10
triggers on all Ruger Americans are adjustable 3-5 lbs.  I turned down the trigger on all my Americans to 3 lbs.  its a crisp trigger and short travel, really nice for a factory stock trigger
like cars, i like to modify/upgrade my firearms.  just cant leave them alone.  I'll do more mods on some guns, less on others.  classic collectable guns, i wont do much, maybe change stock and sights but i dont want to modify those too much.  on the Ruger American i dont mind modding as much as i see a need for
all my 22's are basically plinkers, so i haven't invested too much $$$ in them. 

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #69 on: September 08, 2021, 12:40:31 PM »
I originally got my Ruger American 22LR for a practice gun for my Ruger American 308.  and to replace my 10/22 that I gave to my nephew
I shoot regularly at the silhouette side, and the American 22LR shoots very well there.  can consistently hit the small targets at 100m using the Primary Arms 22LR scope which is a fixed 6x magnification with ACSS reticle.  so i use the BDC and wind hold overs if needed on the scope to hit targets at 75m and 100m. it is zero'd at 50, then i line up target at 75m at the bottom of the circle on the ACSS reticle, or the first hash mark on the scope for targets at 100m.
it's an effective and inexpensive setup for the silhouette range.  I'm realistic.  I rarely shoot longer than 100 yards/meters, and when i do go longer I'll usually use my 308 bolt gun or AR10
triggers on all Ruger Americans are adjustable 3-5 lbs.  I turned down the trigger on all my Americans to 3 lbs.  its a crisp trigger and short travel, really nice for a factory stock trigger
like cars, i like to modify/upgrade my firearms.  just cant leave them alone.  I'll do more mods on some guns, less on others.  classic collectable guns, i wont do much, maybe change stock and sights but i dont want to modify those too much.  on the Ruger American i dont mind modding as much as i see a need for
all my 22's are basically plinkers, so i haven't invested too much $$$ in them.
Cool.  Sounds like I'm about the same interest and "speed".  I have my Vortex 4-16 Viper PST that was originally on my Rem 700 that is "needing" a rifle, so likely candidate for the 22.  I absolutely love shooting steel, but don't think they would take too kindly with me shooting my .308 on the silhouette range.   ;D

So what?  When I get my 22 rifle, challenge?   O0  :rofl:

stangzilla

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #70 on: September 08, 2021, 12:44:54 PM »
Cool.  Sounds like I'm about the same interest and "speed".  I have my Vortex 4-16 Viper PST that was originally on my Rem 700 that is "needing" a rifle, so likely candidate for the 22.  I absolutely love shooting steel, but don't think they would take too kindly with me shooting my .308 on the silhouette range.   ;D

So what?  When I get my 22 rifle, challenge?   O0  :rofl:

sure.  as long as you dont get an Anschutz rifle with a NF scope.  that wouldn't be fair.   :shaka:

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2021, 12:48:23 PM »
sure.  as long as you dont get an Anschutz rifle with a NF scope.  that wouldn't be fair.   :shaka:
Don't tempt me.  Haha

No promises not to, but don't see that in the foreseeable future.  Unless say I win the lotto or something. 

I just put in my order for the glass for my .308, so pause on spending for a bit for those larger purchases.  But, I did refi recently, so no payment for this month.  :hmm:   :crazy:  :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2021, 04:45:13 PM »
But, I did refi recently, so no payment for this month.  :hmm:   :crazy:  :rofl:

More than enough to buy better than average 22 and glass.  RPRR was about $400 preCV, wife got it for my bday. We went to Prime and Henry came out with it and asked how I liked it.  I said that, that was the one I was looking at and he said "take it, it's yours. Mrs.CMO paid for it".

The scope I got was given to my by my uncle who had it for years and never used it. Receipt from Young Guns dated 1990's said $700. 

Mrs. CMO's Vortex Crossfire that she's going to put on her 22 was about $300 from Optics Planet.

Ocean19

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #73 on: September 08, 2021, 06:04:52 PM »
Don't tempt me.  Haha

No promises not to, but don't see that in the foreseeable future.  Unless say I win the lotto or something. 

I just put in my order for the glass for my .308, so pause on spending for a bit for those larger purchases.  But, I did refi recently, so no payment for this month.  :hmm:   :crazy:  :rofl:
I tried a Kahles and man that glass is nice. It’s built like a tank too.

Always remember not to try something so nice that way you won’t know what you’re missing.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2021, 06:17:30 PM »
More than enough to buy better than average 22 and glass.  RPRR was about $400 preCV, wife got it for my bday. We went to Prime and Henry came out with it and asked how I liked it.  I said that, that was the one I was looking at and he said "take it, it's yours. Mrs.CMO paid for it".

The scope I got was given to my by my uncle who had it for years and never used it. Receipt from Young Guns dated 1990's said $700. 

Mrs. CMO's Vortex Crossfire that she's going to put on her 22 was about $300 from Optics Planet.
Yeah, I could. But it’s already likely going to gearing up for loading 6.5.  :(

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2021, 06:22:20 PM »
I tried a Kahles and man that glass is nice. It’s built like a tank too.

Always remember not to try something so nice that way you won’t know what you’re missing.
I already have a NF on my current .308. It was more than I wanted to spend when I first started the search. I started in the Vortex Razor HD series, considered Kahles as well. Considered ZCO and TT, but ended up with NF.

I have a NF ATACR 1-8 on an AR that folks I’ve shot with ended up getting one after shooting with mine. It’s contagious.

ren

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2021, 07:01:02 PM »
there's also the tube gun route
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Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2021, 07:46:05 PM »
It's been said that shooting 100 with a 22lr is similar to shooting centerfire at 400, that is not my experience at all. 600 is much easier with a centerfire than shooting 100 with a 22lr IME especially at KHSC. The holds are definitely different a full value wind with a centerfire is a much flatter hold, rimfire needs to add or subtract elevation as well.

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #78 on: September 08, 2021, 07:48:08 PM »
Bushido is the 22 master. He helped me out lots when I 1st got 1.

Definitely not a master. Been focusing my energy on a different discipline of shooting lately. 

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #79 on: September 08, 2021, 07:53:06 PM »
The guy with the 40X conversion and MK!8 clone is master!!  :thumbsup: