.22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations (Read 139736 times)

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #260 on: October 23, 2021, 06:30:02 PM »

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #261 on: October 23, 2021, 06:32:48 PM »
Going to sight in my CZ tomorrow.  Just got the 457 Precession Chassis MTR.  Hopefully I can at least shoot some decent groups at 50 yds.

ESK said tomorrow should have some good conditions. Today the wind was minimal

tommynauw

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #262 on: October 24, 2021, 01:29:03 PM »
Done it again! 200 yards with my 22 is a ton of fun.

Bench, bipod, squeeze bag. Cake. So much fun. The pig (50 yard small bore match size) doesn't fall over, just rocks and turns. The square plate didn't move much either.

Ocean19

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #263 on: October 24, 2021, 11:58:44 PM »
Done it again! 200 yards with my 22 is a ton of fun.

Bench, bipod, squeeze bag. Cake. So much fun. The pig (50 yard small bore match size) doesn't fall over, just rocks and turns. The square plate didn't move much either.
You shoot 200 on the silhouette side?

tommynauw

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #264 on: October 25, 2021, 11:42:56 AM »
Yes, trying to get more interest in that. Right now it's not an organized thing. I ask the RO in charge for permission. They all know and trust me so I get the green light.
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esk808

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #265 on: October 29, 2021, 08:29:47 PM »
And then there's cone breach and "clocking" barrels.  :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc: I told you the rabbit hole is deeper than you think.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Found the article I was looking for last week about clocking barrels or "barrel indexing"   It's near the bottom of this article.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek080/

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #266 on: October 30, 2021, 08:03:26 PM »

Found the article I was looking for last week about clocking barrels or "barrel indexing"   It's near the bottom of this article.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek080/

Whoah you digging up old articles.  ;D ;D ;D

Bushido

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #267 on: October 30, 2021, 08:06:11 PM »
Accurate Shooters is an amazing resource for precision shooting. It will also F@#K up you CC bills.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #268 on: November 02, 2021, 07:07:07 AM »

Found the article I was looking for last week about clocking barrels or "barrel indexing"   It's near the bottom of this article.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek080/

Accurate Shooters is an amazing resource for precision shooting. It will also F@#K up you CC bills.

must. . . resist. . . getting. . . anywhere. . . near. . .that. . . rabbit. . . . . . . . . hole  ;D

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #269 on: November 02, 2021, 07:10:33 AM »
Decisions, decisions. . .

End of last week, I decided I was going to buy a CZ 457 At One from Buds.  It has been in stock for a while and I was searching around.  I "decide" to buy, but I wasn't able to before I had to leave early Friday morning for a weekend trip.  I sign in on Sat morning, sold. . . there are other available on GunBroker, but many have to verify shipping to HI.  While in the process of doing that, the sale ended.  Checking with a couple other vendors now.  A couple have good prices and a couple are at least $100 over.

Then I get the call from a LGS that I'm next on the list for a CZ 457 Varmint.  Another rifle that I was seriously eyeballing.  It's in stock, locally and for a good price. . .

Akubone1

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #270 on: November 02, 2021, 10:15:01 AM »
I just got my CZ 457 and love it.  The only thing that I should have expected was that I’m already looking to get an aftermarket barrel and new chassis.  Maybe I’ll just change the butt stock on mine.  Shooting 22 is pretty addictive.  Challenging to adjust for wind holds…everyday is different.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #271 on: November 02, 2021, 10:40:40 AM »
I just got my CZ 457 and love it.  The only thing that I should have expected was that I’m already looking to get an aftermarket barrel and new chassis.  Maybe I’ll just change the butt stock on mine.  Shooting 22 is pretty addictive.  Challenging to adjust for wind holds…everyday is different.
I hear ya, or (jokingly) should be not listening.   ;D

Will see where I end up.  The At One has a lot of adjustment, which is one of the main reasons I want that model.  There's the CZ precision chassis as well, but quite a bit more.  I was def tempted. 

The challenge, wind, etc is why I want (and have long wanted to) get into 22 rifles. 

tommynauw

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #272 on: November 02, 2021, 11:22:04 AM »
The challenge, wind, etc is why I want (and have long wanted to) get into 22 rifles.

100% what makes 22 so much fun. Helps how much cheaper it can be. "Can" because all bets are off once you enter the rabbit hole.

Given a 90-degree 10mph wind: a 1080fps 40gr 22LR bullet drifts as much at 100 yards as a 2800fps 190gr Sierra MatchKing .308 bullet does at 250 yards.

Hope to see you on the range soon, drck1000.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #273 on: November 02, 2021, 11:36:55 AM »
100% what makes 22 so much fun. Helps how much cheaper it can be. "Can" because all bets are off once you enter the rabbit hole.

Given a 90-degree 10mph wind: a 1080fps 40gr 22LR bullet drifts as much at 100 yards as a 2800fps 190gr Sierra MatchKing .308 bullet does at 250 yards.

Hope to see you on the range soon, drck1000.
Been avoiding sliding deeper down the rabbit hole, but the "dark side" is calling.  Having folks like you, esk, Bushido, etc at various "depths" of 22 rabbit hole is helpful. 

Wow!  190 gr pills pushing 2800 fps!  :o  I'd have to check my notes, but I think my 168-175 gr loads are in the mid-2400 fps on lower end (Varget) to approaching 2600 fps on the higher end (8208 and another powder, but can't think of it right now). 

changemyoil66

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #274 on: November 02, 2021, 12:28:59 PM »
Been avoiding sliding deeper down the rabbit hole, but the "dark side" is calling.  Having folks like you, esk, Bushido, etc at various "depths" of 22 rabbit hole is helpful. 

Wow!  190 gr pills pushing 2800 fps!  :o  I'd have to check my notes, but I think my 168-175 gr loads are in the mid-2400 fps on lower end (Varget) to approaching 2600 fps on the higher end (8208 and another powder, but can't think of it right now).

If you don't want to go down the hole, don't shoot Esk, Bushido's guns.  Come shoot my cheapo one.  With zero wind, my 22 head drops about 7 inches at 100 yards. I'm zero'd for 50. CCI-Standard Velocity.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #275 on: November 02, 2021, 01:28:33 PM »
If you don't want to go down the hole, don't shoot Esk, Bushido's guns.  Come shoot my cheapo one.  With zero wind, my 22 head drops about 7 inches at 100 yards. I'm zero'd for 50. CCI-Standard Velocity.
No guarantee on the first, both shooting their rifles (if they are so gracious to offer) or even buying one of them. . .  :shake:

That said, I don't want to shoot your rifles.  But one day, we can do small kine competition.  O0

changemyoil66

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #276 on: November 02, 2021, 05:39:31 PM »
No guarantee on the first, both shooting their rifles (if they are so gracious to offer) or even buying one of them. . .  :shake:

That said, I don't want to shoot your rifles.  But one day, we can do small kine competition.  O0
U too gud for the cheap stuff eh?

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drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #277 on: November 02, 2021, 05:55:26 PM »
U too gud for the cheap stuff eh?

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Uh, no.  The opposite actually.  I want to shoot the cheap stuff. 

tommynauw

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #278 on: November 03, 2021, 09:37:08 AM »
My philosophy: Keep it cheap, you'll shoot more and get better faster. Once you can outshoot the cheap stuff then spend serious money.

This is a big reason why I'm promoting 200 yards at Koko Head. I want to see how the big bucks rifles do out there. Then again, I wouldn't blame a guy for not wanting to put a ton of Lapua Center-X snd such down range. Already the "cheap" stuff I'm playing with is about $0.15 per shot.

Oh and drck1000: When I compared wind drift before the 190gr at 2800fps was based on 300WinMag.

drck1000

Re: .22 lr Bolt Action - Experiences and Recommendations
« Reply #279 on: November 03, 2021, 10:01:32 AM »
My philosophy: Keep it cheap, you'll shoot more and get better faster. Once you can outshoot the cheap stuff then spend serious money.

This is a big reason why I'm promoting 200 yards at Koko Head. I want to see how the big bucks rifles do out there. Then again, I wouldn't blame a guy for not wanting to put a ton of Lapua Center-X snd such down range. Already the "cheap" stuff I'm playing with is about $0.15 per shot.

Oh and drck1000: When I compared wind drift before the 190gr at 2800fps was based on 300WinMag.
I want to eventually shoot better ammo, but start of basic and go from there.  Similar approach for my progression/learning with handguns and ARs.  Sticking with mostly stock, particularly triggers (or many years and thousands of rounds) before going with upgraded components.  I've since gone to Geissele in all of my ARs, but I shot for many years with the USGI triggers.  For .22 lr, plan is to stock with basic and then grow from there.  Will I eventually get into custom action, barrels, etc?  Maybe or even likely.  But current plan is to shoot my basic rifle and "normal" stuff ammo first.