Anybody going Kokohead tomorrow?  Federal Holiday

Kokohead open 8>4

Look like no wind.  If so, going mid-morning..........

I gotta work tomorrow.  But, my CZ457 arrived at the FFL Monday and I am mostly likely going to pick it up tomorrow.  Looks like the scope base is supposed to arrive early next week.  So will hopefully register middle of next week and maybe shooting by next weekend.   

My ammo order to Kaleo shipped today, so hopefully will have that for some shootin' in December.   

I gotta work tomorrow.  But, my CZ457 arrived at the FFL Monday and I am mostly likely going to pick it up tomorrow.  Looks like the scope base is supposed to arrive early next week.  So will hopefully register middle of next week and maybe shooting by next weekend.   

My ammo order to Kaleo shipped today, so hopefully will have that for some shootin' in December.   

Quote from CZ:
 "Like all of our 457s, it has an 11mm dovetail milled into the top of its receiver for attaching scope ring mounts."

You don't need scope bases.  Only scope rings with an 11mm dovetail, unless you want a picatinny base...........

Quote from CZ:
 "Like all of our 457s, it has an 11mm dovetail milled into the top of its receiver for attaching scope ring mounts."

You don't need scope bases.  Only scope rings with an 11mm dovetail, unless you want a picatinny base...........

Gotcha. But I already have the Area 419 scope base on the way. That was so I can use the scope off of my Rem 700 with the same rings. Somewhat versatility for all my rifle scopes. Thanks tho

Picked up the CZ 457 yesterday.  Thank you (as always) to Devin @ Bushido Arms for your support for the 2a community, and enabling my gun buying "affliction"    Now I am considering adding a 9 mm AR to the list when I have to register these rifles.   

Seriously, Devin is great!  I have gotten to know him over the years and he's an awesome and consistent supporter of 2a community.  Lots of very active support for shooting sports (beyond just his shop/store), active with the legislative stuff (convos with him about this stuff can last a while), and more.

Got the rifle home, and was pleasantly surprised by the Area 419 scope base was delivered many days early.  So instead of working most of the afternoon, I HAD to get the rifle put together with the scope base and the scope that I had ready for it.  The scope and rings came up my original Rem 700 setup and the rings are quite low.  After setting the eye relief, it worked out ok, but rings a skosh higher would probably work better/best.  But overall I am happy with the setup. 

Don't think I'll be able to take it out to the range until next weekend, but it's ready to go.   

Don't think I'll be able to take it out to the range until next weekend, but it's ready to go.   

Sounds like it's ready to go tomorrow or Sunday.  Looks like little or no wind this weekend, with Sunday
looking a little better than Saturday.  (Gotta check late tonight on windy.com)

Oh, by the way, met Akubone1 yesterday at Kokohead............... 

Sounds like it's ready to go tomorrow or Sunday.  Looks like little or no wind this weekend, with Sunday
looking a little better than Saturday.  (Gotta check late tonight on windy.com)

Oh, by the way, met Akubone1 yesterday at Kokohead............... 

It's ready to go now.  Put on the scope base and mounted and positioned the scope yesterday. 

Looks like I will be working most of the weekend.  Otherwise, I would likely try to hit up the range.  I have some ammo too.  My order coming via Kaleo Arms shipped yesterday too.

Sounds like it's ready to go tomorrow or Sunday.  Looks like little or no wind this weekend, with Sunday
looking a little better than Saturday.  (Gotta check late tonight on windy.com)

Oh, by the way, met Akubone1 yesterday at Kokohead............... 

Yup esk808’s rifle is something to behold.  Was scared to even look at it.  Shoots as good as it looks .  Thankful for the pointers.  Esk808 is a class act and willing to help a newbie.  Thank you.

Yup esk808’s rifle is something to behold.  Was scared to even look at it.  Shoots as good as it looks .  Thankful for the pointers.  Esk808 is a class act and willing to help a newbie.  Thank you.

The trigger was that sensitive?   

Good stuff!  Always good to hear folks shooting and sharing the enjoyment with others.   

Veterans Day, Saturday and Sunday were fairly windless, and was good to test ammo.

Took 1 BR rifle each of 3 days to Kokohead.  Shot 2 boxes each (100rds) of Eley Tenex, Lapua Midas+, and RWS R50 through each rifle each day (300rds total)

Thursday: Anschutz 54.18 BR50 with 0.960" Lilja barrel
                 Test target that came with rifle shoots Midas+ and R50 real good. Tight match chamber for Lapua bullet.  Eley Tenex not too good-shot wider groups, but
                  as expected, Midas+ and R50 shoots good.

Saturday: Anschutz 54.30 KelblyBRFB stock with 0.900" Shilen barrel
                Again, same results as above, since both rifles built by Anschutz Custom Shop

Sunday:  Anschutz 2013 Shehane stock with the 0.900" Lilja barrel direct from Lilja with Eley Match EPS bullet chamber reamer Lilja uses.
               Shot Eley Tenex the best, since EPS bullet is the same flatnose bullet.

A match chamber reamer for a name-brand barrel (Lilja, Shilen, Benchmark, Muller), cut specifically, for instance, for a Lapua/Eley EPS bullet makes a big difference.

556fun had his Turbo3 BR rifle with a Shilen barrel, match chamber cut for Lapua CenterX, shoots CenterX the best............... makes sense.

Since I have 2 different rimfire tuners (Harrell & BeeSting), my next project is to try and tighten the groups of the "not so good ammo for this rifle" ammo with a tuner.
I think I can tighten the groups to shoot close to the "best ammo for the rifle" groups.

While shooting in the rain I experienced a 2MOA drop in elevation with std vel 22LR out my CLE upper. I know not bolt but I thought it was interesting. I'm guessing it was the humidity 

While shooting in the rain I experienced a 2MOA drop in elevation with std vel 22LR out my CLE upper. I know not bolt but I thought it was interesting. I'm guessing it was the humidity 

Could be the rain/humidity, or maybe if you take off/put back on your scope.  I always take off my scope when cleaning and put it back on... the next time at Kokohead, it needs 1 or 2 clicks or some more to get back on the X mark.

Was this yesterday?  Rain started at 11:30am, and I was just getting into my car to go home.

Next time you at Kokohead, ask Mitch, Leonard, Slick or Keith F. if I am there.  Would like to meet up with you 

Veterans Day, Saturday and Sunday were fairly windless, and was good to test ammo.

Took 1 BR rifle each of 3 days to Kokohead.  Shot 2 boxes each (100rds) of Eley Tenex, Lapua Midas+, and RWS R50 through each rifle each day (300rds total)

Thursday: Anschutz 54.18 BR50 with 0.0960" Lilja barrel
                 Test target that came with rifle shoots Midas+ and R50 real good. Tight match chamber for Lapua bullet.  Eley Tenex not too good-shot wider groups, but
                  as expected, Midas+ and R50 shoots good.

Saturday: Anschutz 54.30 KelblyBRFB stock with 0.0900" Shilen barrel
                Again, same results as above, since both rifles built by Anschutz Custom Shop

Sunday:  Anschutz 2013 Shehane stock with the 0.900" Lilja barrel direct from Lilja with Eley Match EPS bullet chamber reamer Lilja uses.
               Shot Eley Tenex the best, since EPS bullet is the same flatnose bullet.

A match chamber reamer for a name-brand barrel (Lilja, Shilen, Benchmark, Muller), cut specifically, for instance, for a Lapua/Eley EPS bullet makes a big difference.

556fun had his Turbo3 BR rifle with a Shilen barrel, match chamber cut for Lapua CenterX, shoots CenterX the best............... makes sense.

Since I have 2 different rimfire tuners (Harrell & BeeSting), my next project is to try and tighten the groups of the "not so good ammo for this rifle" ammo with a tuner.
I think I can tighten the groups to shoot close to the "best ammo for the rifle" groups.

Awesome! 

But I have to admit one of my initial thoughts were, "damn, that's a lot of cleaning".

Seriously, on the subject of cleaning, I'm glad I did more reading on cleaning of CZ 457.  Seems like the typical/standard .22 rimfire coated rods do not work well with the CZ 457.  Dewey as a couple of other rods were mentioned.  I ended up ordering a Boretech cleaning rod for rimfire, but a .20 Cal for rimfire. 

What do you (and others) for your normal cleaning?  I would assume that with most .22 lr ammo, that lead fouling would be a bigger deal.  At least more than centerfire with FMJ or match ammo/bullets. 

Was this yesterday?  Rain started at 11:30am, and I was just getting into my car to go home.

Next time you at Kokohead, ask Mitch, Leonard, Slick or Keith F. if I am there.  Would like to meet up with you 

Yep. Yesterday. I met you before when I asked about the rest part you wanted milled by a local machine shop. Keith has an interesting collection of .22s. Yesterday he had his Martini

Awesome! 

But I have to admit one of my initial thoughts were, "damn, that's a lot of cleaning".

Seriously, on the subject of cleaning, I'm glad I did more reading on cleaning of CZ 457.  Seems like the typical/standard .22 rimfire coated rods do not work well with the CZ 457.  Dewey as a couple of other rods were mentioned.  I ended up ordering a Boretech cleaning rod for rimfire, but a .20 Cal for rimfire. 

What do you (and others) for your normal cleaning?  I would assume that with most .22 lr ammo, that lead fouling would be a bigger deal.  At least more than centerfire with FMJ or match ammo/bullets.

I bought the rod, jag, and rimfire blend from Boretech.  My normal cleaning rod is just a little too tight.  Boretech Works well.  Missed out on the rifle shooting this weekend.  Had to take advantage of the weather for a break to catch some onaga.  Spent a couple of hours on Sunday shooting pistol.  Hopefully I’ll be able to go this coming weekend. 

I bought the rod, jag, and rimfire blend from Boretech.  My normal cleaning rod is just a little too tight.  Boretech Works well.  Missed out on the rifle shooting this weekend.  Had to take advantage of the weather for a break to catch some onaga.  Spent a couple of hours on Sunday shooting pistol.  Hopefully I’ll be able to go this coming weekend.

Went same/similar.  Boretech rods, but from Brownells (shipping from Boretech was  ).  Rimfire blend, brushes and jags (for caliber and 1 undersize) for both .22 lr and 6.5 CM.  I use their stuff for .308 Win and like them, so sticking with them. 

I went with the 0.20 cal cleaning rod though. 

Question on routine cleaning.  How often?  I had about 300 rounds down the barrel and just ran some patches through.  Does anyone clean the chamber with a brush.  I'm only using a nylon brush and running it from the chamber through the bore...I don't run it completely through the muzzle though.  Figure that I'm only going to shoot cheaper ammo for now (CCI) until I get better in shooting technique and refine the set up on the rifle.  No sense in me shooting expensive ammo right now although i've definitely seen the difference in consistency with good ammo.

Here comes a whole new can of worms!

So far I've run a bore snake (run wet with cleaner then again with whatever's left) every 500 or so rounds. Seems to work well. I think currently I've put 1000 rounds through with no bore cleaning. The bolt face and where it locks up (breech?) and bolt body get cleaned more often.

Question on routine cleaning.  How often?  I had about 300 rounds down the barrel and just ran some patches through.  Does anyone clean the chamber with a brush.  I'm only using a nylon brush and running it from the chamber through the bore...I don't run it completely through the muzzle though.  Figure that I'm only going to shoot cheaper ammo for now (CCI) until I get better in shooting technique and refine the set up on the rifle.  No sense in me shooting expensive ammo right now although i've definitely seen the difference in consistency with good ammo.

Good question! 

I only have boresnake right now.  I have rods, brushes, jags, bore guide on the way.  Will be shooting the new rifle this weekend, so will just have the boresnake.  That said, I am not a "full clean" person with all of my guns. 

Here comes a whole new can of worms!

So far I've run a bore snake (run wet with cleaner then again with whatever's left) every 500 or so rounds. Seems to work well. I think currently I've put 1000 rounds through with no bore cleaning. The bolt face and where it locks up (breech?) and bolt body get cleaned more often.

Then there's those who clean between ammo brands. 

For this rifle, I consider it a plinker with somewhat interest (dip toes into the pool) of "better" precision.  I could see things going a while without cleaning.  But, I also don't know what I don't know, so that could change next week. 

Plan (or hope) is to get the rifle out to the range either tomorrow or Sat.  Zero the rifle and shoot some groups.  I eventually want to get this gun out to the silhouette range.