Suicide and Euthanasia (Read 12848 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2021, 12:51:59 PM »
swoooooosh

Hahahha, hasn't even been back for 24 hours yet and got swoooshed.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2021, 12:54:44 PM »

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2021, 12:55:54 PM »
Never got the chance to discuss it in 'court' or was told exactly why.  Also I'm not allowed to argue with the mods. So I will not discuss this further.  Don't want another ban.  :stopjack:

so, you lied...

changemyoil66

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2021, 01:00:26 PM »
so, you lied...

Like usual. Makes a statement and unable to back up said statement.

macsak

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2021, 01:02:18 PM »
I'm guessing like blm blaming everything being racist is the point.   Not a good one though.   😕

swooosh

macsak

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2021, 01:02:55 PM »
Like usual. Makes a statement and unable to back up said statement.

that's ok, he edited his original post to try and not be wrong...

omnigun

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2021, 01:17:36 PM »
Being psychic is hard.  Even harder when you can't confirm your predictions.  Extra hard mode is when you can't try to fix the apparent error, which is judged solely by opinion. :stopjack:
« Last Edit: October 14, 2021, 01:26:46 PM by omnigun »

omnigun

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2021, 01:23:21 PM »
The issue with most non-terminally ill suicide cases is the "permanent solution to a temporary problem."  If a person is in a suicidal state of mind, can they make decisions for themself?  Lots of similar conflicts out there.  Can the mentally ill homeless be committed against their will?  Can Britney Spears make decisions in her own life.  Can people be sent to prison because of a legit bout of mental illness where they had no control of what they did.

It's up to friends, family, and community to help those in need and not just when it comes down to the wire.  Be nice to eachother, understand peoples problems, and give people a call once in a while. 

Hawaii averages close to 200 suicide deaths every year, with an average of 45 firearm suicides.  A lot of people don't know this cause it's never reported in the news and usually happens at home.  This is an area I wanted to work on as a volunteer project for firearms safety.

What magical state of mind allows you to make your own decisions?  When is government overreach okay?  That's the root of the issue with red flag laws.  If people want help, help them.  But the government shouldn't force people to live or do something that isn't for the public good/safety.  If the homeless man is not a danger to others let him be.  If he wants to die that's his decision.  Britney should be free,  even if that freedom has self consequences.  If she blows all her money, that's her money.

Personally I believe if the mental illness is diagnosed and a treatment is possible and they refuse treatment and do a crime, they are responsible.  If not then they should get treatment and the rest of decisions is on them.

macsak

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2021, 01:33:27 PM »
Being psychic is hard.  Even harder when you can't confirm your predictions.  Extra hard mode is when you can't try to fix the apparent error, which is judged solely by opinion. :stopjack:

i politely asked, you ignored...

ren

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2021, 01:38:01 PM »
suicide and euthanasia are ways to keep minority populations in check
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2021, 01:43:28 PM »
suicide and euthanasia are ways to keep minority populations in check

How?  White people are perfectly capable of suicide.  Will doctors only use euthanasia for minorities suffering terminal illnesses?  Every race can make their own decisions on their own life.  Just like every race has the opportunity to succeed.  Stop the liberal blame everything on race madness. 

groveler

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2021, 01:44:10 PM »
What magical state of mind allows you to make your own decisions?  When is government overreach okay?  That's the root of the issue with red flag laws.  If people want help, help them.  But the government shouldn't force people to live or do something that isn't for the public good/safety.  If the homeless man is not a danger to others let him be.  If he wants to die that's his decision.  Britney should be free,  even if that freedom has self consequences.  If she blows all her money, that's her money.

Personally I believe if the mental illness is diagnosed and a treatment is possible and they refuse treatment and do a crime, they are responsible.  If not then they should get treatment and the rest of decisions is on them.
You are a pretty  Libertarian atheist sort of "person".
I too am VERY Libertarian, but I am a God fearing man.
I disagree here
" But the government shouldn't force people to live or do something that isn't for the public good/safety."
Fuck the government.  Which one of them decides what constitutes "public safety"? Do you? Do I?
We decide. You and only you are responsible for you and your families safety and their "good".  Not the fuking government.
 :grrr:

groveler

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2021, 01:46:57 PM »
suicide and euthanasia are ways to keep minority populations in check
I'm pretty sure it will take care of a lot of Democrats.
So that is a plus.

changemyoil66

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2021, 01:47:47 PM »
You are a pretty  Libertarian atheist sort of "person".
I too am VERY Libertarian, but I am a God fearing man.
I disagree here
" But the government shouldn't force people to live or do something that isn't for the public good/safety."
Fuck the government.  Which one of them decides what constitutes "public safety"? Do you? Do I?
We decide. You and only you are responsible for you and your families safety and their "good".  Not the fuking government.
 :grrr:

He isn't an atheist that he claims. Many of his postings support the fact that he believes in god.  Even 1 of his post today, which is his first day back from a suspension.  He can't even hide his belief for 24 hours.

changemyoil66

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2021, 01:48:32 PM »
I'm pretty sure it will take care of a lot of Democrats.
So that is a plus.

That's where you're wrong. Enter illegal aliens and their future US born children who will vote for the DNC.

drck1000

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2021, 01:58:22 PM »
He doesn't realize a lot of things.
He is always a winner…

macsak

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2021, 02:05:33 PM »
He is always a winner…

goalpost moved to participation trophy...

changemyoil66

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2021, 02:10:30 PM »
goalpost moved to participation trophy...

Or skinny wiener (Heavyweights movie reference)

ren

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2021, 02:17:47 PM »
White people are the ones pushing for suicide...like the OP.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Suicide and Euthanasia
« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2021, 02:22:47 PM »
I didn't read anything that said the suicide had to be intentional.

The rate of Whites/Non-Hispanics dying from overdoses is 26.2, and the rate for Non-Hispanic Blacks is 24.8.

So, it would appear Whites and Black commit suicide in close to even rates.  But, add in other minorities:

Non-Hispanic Native American/Alaska Native:  30.5
Non-Hispanic Asian:  3.3
Non-Hispanic Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander:  9.5
Hispanic:  12.7

Those rates are per 100,000 Standard Population.

Yeah, I'd say suicide has a preferred race.  When you look at factors like racial division, messaging that says you're oppressed by Whites, Critical Race Theory training, lower quality healthcare, need to work longer hours for less pay in some areas, poor educational opportunities, substandard public schools in urban areas, Social Media flaunting the good life that most will never achieve, ....it's a wonder most people below a given economic level aren't suicidal.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw