It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM. (Read 9199 times)

aieahound

It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« on: October 15, 2021, 11:22:50 AM »
While you were gone you missed the following:

1) Threads went on for pages because Omni doesn't understand things and refuses to admit he is wrong
2) Then after many pages, if he does admit he was wrong, it's a half baked admission. Like "I was wrong, but.." or "maybe you're right". Uses deflection a lot.
3) He also moved goal post when proven wrong, refer to #1 also about needlessly long post. And why he brings up the same faulty arguments because it's hard to remember lies.
4) I broke it down to him in 3 post that he is the problem.  I was very direct and not beating around the bush
5) Since then, I have stopped replying to him. But he still feels the need to reply to me, even after I told him he won't get a reply. Then he sites freedom hoping to get a reply.  Slow learner I guess.
6) He has been banned twice already, and still thinks it's not his fault. Refer to #2 above
7)  He has been back only 1 day and already his post are contradicting himself and doesn't understand concepts still (SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH)
8) EEF's arguments are better than his, so that's why I respond to EEF on occasion
9) He's been puffing his chest more prior to being banned. Guess faulty arguments run out after so many weeks, so need to make self feel like the big man on campus is needed.  But we all see thru it.
10) Like's to assume things until someone post "please show me where...".  Then after making the wrong assumption, refer to #1 and #2 again.
11) He post links to back up his arguments, but doesn't actually read past the title or 1st paragraph because said link prove he is wrong still.  Then refer back to #2 again and #1


Im sure there is more, but this is just what comes off the top of my head right now.  So I chose not to reply. Others do, but that's their choice. Only reason why I haven't blocked him is because me and others get a laugh at his expense when ever he post something.  And these are hardcore DNC friends who also are laughing.  It's like talking to an anti gunner who wants to ban "assault rifles". They are proven their logic based on feelings is wrong, and no amount of evidence you provide will change that feeling.

This is not in response to your post CMO.
Just kind of the perfect segue.

Interesting sociological experiment concluded.
It only takes one troll pushing the right buttons to derail a whole forum.

STOP REPLYING

Just my opinion.

I know. If you don’t like it don’t read it.
But having to skip PAGES to get back to a comment that’s on topic and interesting is ridiculous.
He trolls here even when he’s suspended based on comments and posts reacting to him even while he’s gone.
I miss Gongho.  :(

ren

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2021, 11:28:25 AM »
easy solution.
as GT says in his vids, shoot more, post less, train. train. train.
When the ROs at the range tell a person load 5 rounds in the mag, they mean 5 rounds! 100s of hours of training can't overcome ignorance
« Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 01:50:31 PM by ren »
Deeds Not Words

Inspector

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2021, 11:50:18 AM »
This is not in response to your post CMO.
Just kind of the perfect segue.

Interesting sociological experiment concluded.
It only takes one troll pushing the right buttons to derail a whole forum.

STOP REPLYING

Just my opinion.

I know. If you don’t like it don’t read it.
But having to skip PAGES to get back to a comment that’s on topic and interesting is ridiculous.
He trolls here even when he’s suspended based on comments and posts reacting to him even while he’s gone.
I miss Gongho.  :(
👏  👏  👏
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

stangzilla

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2021, 12:08:44 PM »

omnigun

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2021, 01:14:00 PM »
Cute that people think I am a troll. 

#echochamber
#everythingthatisntthatibelieveiswrong
#ignoranceisbliss

changemyoil66

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2021, 01:16:01 PM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2021, 01:55:26 PM »
This sums it up.

We should also stop using the troll's name and words in our posts.

No more about "collector", "3.7 GPA" and all the other stupid stuff we associate with him.

The more we show he's living rent-free in our brains, the more we feed him.

And indirect comments that are obviously about him but not replies to him (like this one) give him that attention he can't live without.

Trolls need to be treated as if they are invisible and never existed before they change or stop completely.  And it takes everyone to stop feeding him.  Just one person taking the bait makes his day of fishing a success in his mind.

No dots, no mentions, and no reposting of things associated with him.  It's the only way as far as I can tell.

I've had text messaging conversations, and my unprofessional diagnosis is he has mental problems.  He projects what he does onto everyone else to make himself feel better about his bad behavior.  He sees us as inferior for the most part, so anything he does is okay.

He doesn't want to change.  Until he does, the best we can do is condition ourselves to completely ignore him.

He's been suspended 3 times I believe.  How many does it take before he's blocked completely?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2021, 02:26:08 PM »
^
+1

omnigun

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2021, 02:40:16 PM »
TLDR

The two main "trolls" unite to attack another "troll".  While the whole troll community cheers. 

Reply or don't reply don't care.  Won't stop posting facts.  This community is more than than a dozen or so active people circle jerking in a echo chamber.  Not everyone is far right republican clones.  Or religious/insert X mass belief/theory system.  Many probably don't want to speak up.  But I have no fear to have a dissenting opinion. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2021, 07:43:44 PM »
One of the basic concepts in the Bill of Rights is Free Speech. 

Somehow, at least one person (and I presume many others in this country) learned along the way that Free Speech is NOT:
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The right to express an opinion in public without being restrained or censored.
https://www.wordnik.com/words/free%20speech

But, rather:
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That's what free speech is.  Triggering everyone.
That's a direct quote, BTW.

So, he's not here to talk about his opinions or ideas as much as wanting to cause a reaction from the other forum members.

His comment is what helped me form the opinion that he's only here to disrupt.  He'll state the most repulsive and contrary statements he can think of (or copy) just to get a reaction.

This is the definition of an Internet troll.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2021, 10:24:54 PM »
This is not in response to your post CMO.
Just kind of the perfect segue.

Interesting sociological experiment concluded.
It only takes one troll pushing the right buttons to derail a whole forum.

STOP REPLYING

Just my opinion.

I know. If you don’t like it don’t read it.
But having to skip PAGES to get back to a comment that’s on topic and interesting is ridiculous.
He trolls here even when he’s suspended based on comments and posts reacting to him even while he’s gone.
I miss Gongho.  :(

Well said.
I have matured to the level where if the discussion is no longer progressing I will try to and with something akin to agree to disagree and stop replying. Might not get the last word in or change their minds but the stress and time spent is so much lower that way.

omnigun

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2021, 06:38:40 AM »
One of the basic concepts in the Bill of Rights is Free Speech. 

Somehow, at least one person (and I presume many others in this country) learned along the way that Free Speech is NOT:https://www.wordnik.com/words/free%20speech

But, rather:That's a direct quote, BTW.

So, he's not here to talk about his opinions or ideas as much as wanting to cause a reaction from the other forum members.

His comment is what helped me form the opinion that he's only here to disrupt.  He'll state the most repulsive and contrary statements he can think of (or copy) just to get a reaction.

This is the definition of an Internet troll.

No my comment is about the fact that free speech shouldn't be censored.  The only reason you would censor it because it triggered you.  When someone has free speech they should not have to care at all what the other person will feel.  The moment you enforce rules on that then you are limiting speech.  To protect the snowflakes.  True free speech should trigger people one way or another. 

drck1000

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2021, 09:38:14 AM »
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STOP REPLYING
That’s one mitigation method. 

Don’t see what’s so hard about ignoring. That said, I’ve seen some stuff that are so asinine that I had to point out hypocrisy, stupidity, etc.  So I am guilty of offering up some appetizers to the Troll buffet. 

Why anyone would think they are the anointed one to conveying truth is  :P. Especially when their intelligence level hasn’t proven to be higher than a 6th grader.  That said, there are those here who just like to flat out argue, about anything, over, and over, and over. . .

hvybarrels

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2021, 09:58:08 AM »
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Inspector

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2021, 11:20:49 AM »
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2021, 11:23:36 AM »
That’s one mitigation method. 

Don’t see what’s so hard about ignoring. That said, I’ve seen some stuff that are so asinine that I had to point out hypocrisy, stupidity, etc.  So I am guilty of offering up some appetizers to the Troll buffet. 

Why anyone would think they are the anointed one to conveying truth is  :P. Especially when their intelligence level hasn’t proven to be higher than a 6th grader.  That said, there are those here who just like to flat out argue, about anything, over, and over, and over. . .
I now dub you “Feeder of the Trolls!”  :P

I would love to see the arguing stop.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2021, 11:36:07 AM »
I now dub you “Feeder of the Trolls!”  :P

I would love to see the arguing stop.
:o

 :rofl:

I mean arguing is ok when done respectfully and where both sides have intelligent approaches. Rather incorrectly parroting crap or going on and on based on what they believe is right.

Now say arguing over best .22 ammo is one I would gladly read.  ;D

macsak

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2021, 11:44:24 AM »
That’s one mitigation method. 

Don’t see what’s so hard about ignoring. That said, I’ve seen some stuff that are so asinine that I had to point out hypocrisy, stupidity, etc.  So I am guilty of offering up some appetizers to the Troll buffet. 

Why anyone would think they are the anointed one to conveying truth is  :P. Especially when their intelligence level hasn’t proven to be higher than a 6th grader.  That said, there are those here who just like to flat out argue, about anything, over, and over, and over. . .

heads

omnigun

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2021, 12:29:04 PM »
ITT people who can't read.  Not every post I have is an argument.  I agree a solid 30-40% of the time.  But of course that's not remembered cause we all hate this guy is the community choice.  Reminds me of cults,  now I understand how they work a bit better.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: It only takes one troll to derail a FORUM.
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2021, 01:13:02 PM »
Maybe it's because 99% of one's posts are dedicated to arguing.

One tends to post more when arguing than not.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw