Blaming anyone solves nothing.  The fact remains ... if 80% are using Social Media for ANYTHING that's important (Virus/Pandemic info, Vaccine info, election news, etc), the people publishing the news in those media have an ethical responsibility to fulfill their duty as the "4th Branch of Government."  Without an honest media bringing us the news over WHATEVER medium we choose, we will continue to be manipulated and lied to.

This is kind of touching on another issue for me, people love to blame the media and while they are often justly criticized, I notice that people don't point out that we are also to blame.

We complain about media only covering the negative things for example yet it is us, the consumer, who the media is so often catering to. Like blaming Mcdonalds for selling unhealthy food, they make it because it sells. If people started demanding more healthy food McDonalds would follow the consumer demands. How much of this problem is the media and how much of it is our fault as consumers for wanting the sensational headlines?

As a son of journalists and one who dabbled in journalism a little, I am dismayed by the state of the media as it exists now but I think we as consumers are also partially to blame.

This is kind of touching on another issue for me, people love to blame the media and while they are often justly criticized, I notice that people don't point out that we are also to blame.

We complain about media only covering the negative things for example yet it is us, the consumer, who the media is so often catering to. Like blaming Mcdonalds for selling unhealthy food, they make it because it sells. If people started demanding more healthy food McDonalds would follow the consumer demands. How much of this problem is the media and how much of it is our fault as consumers for wanting the sensational headlines?

As a son of journalists and one who dabbled in journalism a little, I am dismayed by the state of the media as it exists now but I think we as consumers are also partially to blame.

Our market system is supposed to handle the "better" news agencies vs. the "not so good" agencies.  Revenue used to be based on viewership and readership.  Now it's rewarded by advertising clicks.  Not that advertisers didn't exist before (lots of ads in newspapers), but the better agencies got more readers, and hence more ad revenue.

So, instead of revenue based on potential ad viewers, we now reward news agencies with ACTUAL ad views based on clicks.  That means the news orgs need to drive traffic to as many pages as they can.

Please provide a solution that we as the public consumer can use to fix that.  Human behavior is what it is.

Are you talking about Guantanamo?

I never mentioned guantanamo anywhere in my response, but that's irrelevant to the content I actually posted

Our market system is supposed to handle the "better" news agencies vs. the "not so good" agencies.  Revenue used to be based on viewership and readership.  Now it's rewarded by advertising clicks.  Not that advertisers didn't exist before (lots of ads in newspapers), but the better agencies got more readers, and hence more ad revenue.

So, instead of revenue based on potential ad viewers, we now reward news agencies with ACTUAL ad views based on clicks.  That means the news orgs need to drive traffic to as many pages as they can.

Please provide a solution that we as the public consumer can use to fix that.  Human behavior is what it is.

Solution? We should all try to be better critical thinkers, to not get our news by reading just a sensational headline. The media is making the headlines but we are consuming them and we could choose to find news sources with more responsible news reports. If there is money to be made selling something, people are going to sell it, we need to stop buying.

Our bodies like sugar, it is human nature, but to stay healthy we need to control our diet.

I never mentioned guantanamo anywhere in my response, but that's irrelevant to the content I actually posted

I didn't think that is what you were talking about but the allegations were akin to guantanamo detainees.

What people have been arrested with no charges and not gotten to see lawyers? We are already seeing lots of people charged and going through courts for what happened on Jan 6th so clearly a lot are getting charged and getting lawyer access so I am wondering what your comment was about.

I didn't think that is what you were talking about but the allegations were akin to guantanamo detainees.

What people have been arrested with no charges and not gotten to see lawyers? We are already seeing lots of people charged and going through courts for what happened on Jan 6th so clearly a lot are getting charged and getting lawyer access so I am wondering what your comment was about.

How many months in pretrial solitary confinement and no medical care are appropriate for trespassing charges?

Whats the use of a rabid progressive public defender who just wants to you to plead guilty for thought crimes?

American gulags.

We're all next if we don't stand up against this.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-secrets/marjorie-taylor-greene-gets-into-j6-jail-inmates-sing-national-anthem

making unsupported arguments is not critical thinking
typing away your first thoughts aren't critical thinking
but hey, you do you

Julie Kelly Exposes the Case of a January 6 Prisoner Who Was Denied Serious Medical Care

https://rumble.com/vo7hoj-julie-kelly-exposes-the-case-of-a-january-6-prisoner-who-was-denied-serious.html

The Third-World Despotic Treatment of the January 6th Detainees

https://www.undergroundusa.com/post/the-third-world-despotic-treatment-of-the-january-6th-detainees

Break into this country illegally and Brandon will give you half a million bucks for every child sex slave you manage to smuggle across the border. Take an unscheduled tour of a government building after the police basically step aside and let you in... well then off to the Gulag with you!

I didn't think that is what you were talking about but the allegations were akin to guantanamo detainees.

What people have been arrested with no charges and not gotten to see lawyers? We are already seeing lots of people charged and going through courts for what happened on Jan 6th so clearly a lot are getting charged and getting lawyer access so I am wondering what your comment was about.

For someone that does a lot of thinking,  tries to view things from different perspectives,  thought projects or whatever you were calling them, you sure throw me off sometimes

How many months in pretrial solitary confinement and no medical care are appropriate for trespassing charges?

Whats the use of a rabid progressive public defender who just wants to you to plead guilty for thought crimes?

American gulags.

We're all next if we don't stand up against this.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-secrets/marjorie-taylor-greene-gets-into-j6-jail-inmates-sing-national-anthem

Read the article you linked, where is there evidence that these arrestees are being denied medical treatment and access to lawyers, and are in solitary confinement?

Read the article you linked, where is there evidence that these arrestees are being denied medical treatment and access to lawyers, and are in solitary confinement?

Their lawyers state 2 of the 3 u mentioned. Ill let u figure out which they are.

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Their lawyers state 2 of the 3 u mentioned. Ill let u figure out which they are.

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Evidence or just allegations?

Evidence or just allegations?

Google is hard...

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Read the article you linked, where is there evidence that these arrestees are being denied medical treatment and access to lawyers, and are in solitary confinement?

Show me the evidence of an armed insurrection, or that anyone died as a result other than the Ashley getting bushwhacked in cold blood by that sad excuse for a capitol police officer.

Americans are getting tortured for trespassing and all you can manage to say about it is “nuh uh”. How about actually adding something to the conversation for once?


https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-orders-release-of-january-6-defendant-after-inspection-shows-mistreatment-of-detainees

Show me the evidence of an armed insurrection, or that anyone died as a result other than the Ashley getting bushwhacked in cold blood by that sad excuse for a capitol police officer.

Americans are getting tortured for trespassing and all you can manage to say about it is “nuh uh”. How about actually adding something to the conversation for once?


https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-orders-release-of-january-6-defendant-after-inspection-shows-mistreatment-of-detainees

Lets see you bum rush and destroy government property and see what happens.  They were not just going on a tour of the capital....

The crime is similar to domestic terrorism and treated as such.   They still have rights. 

Google is hard...

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All I have seen are allegations not evidence. Are they true? Who knows.. But I also know that people lie to get sympathy for their case or to get money so I could see these people making up or exaggerating issues. Should their allegations be taken seriously? Absolutely

Show me the evidence of an armed insurrection, or that anyone died as a result other than the Ashley getting bushwhacked in cold blood by that sad excuse for a capitol police officer.

Americans are getting tortured for trespassing and all you can manage to say about it is “nuh uh”. How about actually adding something to the conversation for once?


https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-orders-release-of-january-6-defendant-after-inspection-shows-mistreatment-of-detainees

Being armed is irrelevant.
Evidence of the insurrection is that they tried to get in to stop the certification process to keep Biden from being president.

I don't think every protester who stepped foot into the building is an insurrectionist, I think most were just guilty of trespassing but presenting them all as just trespassers is misinformation. There is strong evidence against some of the people arrested that they were doing far more than just tresspassing.

I didn't say I don't gate about prisoners getting tortured, I just asked for proof they were getting tortured. Its not like liberals have the monopoly on making up claims to get money or attention. Just apply the same level of skepticism as you did when reading about Juicy Smollet.