trust the government (Read 5628 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: trust the government
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2021, 09:29:02 PM »
The way my mind works I like to consider all the possibilities. I like context to help me get a fuller picture of the problem.

If you told me your gun didn't work at the range therefore it must be broken I would mention that sometimes ammunition can go bad as context to help further analyze the problem. Maybe the ammo isn't actually faulty but until it can be ruled out it is a possible explanation.

So in this case I mentioned an accepted medical practice in measuring another pandemic just so that people understand that sometimes diseases are counted without lab tests. To me that is good information to know when looking at number discrepancies just so we don't too quickly arrive at a conclusion that might not have considered all the possibilities. If we can say for certain it is not a factor then we can discard it, simple as that, but until we can say it is not a factor it is something to consider. If we can rule out your ammunition then we can conclude something is wrong with the gun and look further for an explanation.

Are you seriously pretending that we can solve the problems with COVID on here?  And that we should be following the same problem-solving processes as we would with a firearm?

I sure hope Fauci knows to come read our discussions.  We might have the answers for him!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: trust the government
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2021, 09:41:46 PM »
The way my mind works I like to consider all the possibilities. I like context to help me get a fuller picture of the problem.

If you told me your gun didn't work at the range therefore it must be broken I would mention that sometimes ammunition can go bad as context to help further analyze the problem. Maybe the ammo isn't actually faulty but until it can be ruled out it is a possible explanation.

So in this case I mentioned an accepted medical practice in measuring another pandemic just so that people understand that sometimes diseases are counted without lab tests. To me that is good information to know when looking at number discrepancies just so we don't too quickly arrive at a conclusion that might not have considered all the possibilities. If we can say for certain it is not a factor then we can discard it, simple as that, but until we can say it is not a factor it is something to consider. If we can rule out your ammunition then we can conclude something is wrong with the gun and look further for an explanation.

i have told you multiple times that your examples are not how it is being done for this plandemic
your "context" is wrong
focus

eyeeatingfish

Re: trust the government
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2021, 10:32:43 PM »
Are you seriously pretending that we can solve the problems with COVID on here?  And that we should be following the same problem-solving processes as we would with a firearm?

I sure hope Fauci knows to come read our discussions.  We might have the answers for him!

What? No, I am explaining that I add context so we can help digest information we get.

eyeeatingfish

Re: trust the government
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2021, 10:38:22 PM »
i have told you multiple times that your examples are not how it is being done for this plandemic
your "context" is wrong
focus

If what you say is true and it is not being used that is fine but it doesn't make my statement wrong. Context is just information that may help someone understand an issue. It may not apply to the particular instance but the context itself is not wrong nor would it be wrong to mention. I didn't say it was a factor.

macsak

Re: trust the government
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2021, 10:56:40 PM »
If what you say is true and it is not being used that is fine but it doesn't make my statement wrong. Context is just information that may help someone understand an issue. It may not apply to the particular instance but the context itself is not wrong nor would it be wrong to mention. I didn't say it was a factor.

it doesn't help understanding an issue if it is wrong...

eyeeatingfish

Re: trust the government
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2021, 11:01:59 PM »
it doesn't help understanding an issue if it is wrong...

Doesn't hurt either

macsak

Re: trust the government
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2021, 11:13:50 PM »
Doesn't hurt either

yes it does, you are injecting incorrect "context"

eyeeatingfish

Re: trust the government
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2021, 08:00:07 PM »
yes it does, you are injecting incorrect "context"

The context wasn't incorrect, what I said is true, it just ended up not applying if what you said is true.

macsak

Re: trust the government
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2021, 08:11:40 PM »
The context wasn't incorrect, what I said is true, it just ended up not applying if what you said is true.

so if it is "not applying"
then it is wrong
and it injects incorrect context
and is hurting the discussion
focus

eyeeatingfish

Re: trust the government
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2021, 08:49:15 PM »
so if it is "not applying"
then it is wrong
and it injects incorrect context
and is hurting the discussion
focus

There is no point in continuing this anymore, we obviously disagree and aren't going to change each others mind so lets  :stopjack:

macsak

Re: trust the government
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2021, 09:05:42 PM »
There is no point in continuing this anymore, we obviously disagree and aren't going to change each others mind so lets  :stopjack:

aka, "i'd rather not lose any more than i already am, so i'll claim we need to go back to topic"

eyeeatingfish

Re: trust the government
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2021, 09:25:29 PM »
aka, "i'd rather not lose any more than i already am, so i'll claim we need to go back to topic"

Nope.

macsak

Re: trust the government
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2021, 09:31:38 PM »