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macsak

risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« on: November 22, 2021, 10:35:53 AM »
If you like heart problems, you'll love the Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines
So says a report on almost 600 patients presented last week at the American Heart Association's annual conference

Alex Berenson
Nov 22   

Bad news about the dangers that mRNA vaccines may pose to the heart and blood vessels keeps coming.

A new study of 566 patients who received either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines shows that signs of cardiovascular damage soared following the shots. The risk of heart attacks or other severe coronary problems more than doubled months after the vaccines were administered, based on changes in markers of inflammation and other cell damage.

Patients had a 1 in 4 risk for severe problems after the vaccines, compared to 1 in 9 before.

Dr. Steven Grundy, a Nebraska physician and retired cardiac surgeon, presented the findings at the Scientific Sessions of the American Heart Association’s annual conference in Boston last week. An abstract is available in Circulation, the AHA’s scientific journal.

(SOURCE: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712)


Dr. Gundry regularly tests patients for early signs of heart problems, such as inflammation and cellular death. The patients are then given a score designed to predict their risk of developing an acute coronary syndrome in the next five years.

What’s an acute coronary syndrome? Glad you asked. Per the Mayo Clinic:

Acute coronary syndrome is a term used to describe a range of conditions associated with sudden, reduced blood flow to the heart. One such condition is a heart attack (myocardial infarction) — when cell death results in damaged or destroyed heart tissue.

Gundry found that his patients saw an increase in risk from 11 percent to 25 percent, and the risks persisted for at least 2.5 months after the second dose. His takeaway:

“We conclude that the mRNA [vaccines] dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.”

Which might explain why cardiologists around the world are seeing cases like this:


Just another post-vaccine case of myocarditis, this one requiring a 38-year-old woman to be put on a heart-lung bypass machine to save her her life.

Mild n’ rare, amirite, Dr. Walensky?


Oh well. Can’t make an omelette and all that.
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mrgaf

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2021, 11:25:07 AM »
Oh well…I got 3 Moderna Vax. Diagnosed with murmur and aortic stenosis before the pokes so I really don’t care and no worries. When your time is up, that’s it, owadi masu, nothing you can do! IF this is true it will be a great way to control the population and provide fertilizer for food crops. :shaka:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 11:27:42 AM »
Quote from: mrgaf on November 22, 2021, 11:25:07 AM
Oh well…I got 3 Moderna Vax. Diagnosed with murmur and aortic stenosis before the pokes so I really don’t care and no worries. When your time is up, that’s it, owadi masu, nothing you can do! IF this is true it will be a great way to control the population and provide fertilizer for food crops. :shaka:

FIFY.


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mrgaf

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2021, 04:36:15 PM »
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eyeeatingfish

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 07:45:29 PM »
Glad I got the J&J....
I hope these heart problems are not permanent.

Its not a huge sample size but it isn't small either. Think they definitely need to run a confirmatory study and soon. Covid is known to cause myocarditis in some people as well, I wonder how that factors into these numbers.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 08:03:47 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on November 22, 2021, 07:45:29 PM
Glad I got the J&J....
I hope these heart problems are not permanent.

Its not a huge sample size but it isn't small either. Think they definitely need to run a confirmatory study and soon. Covid is known to cause myocarditis in some people as well, I wonder how that factors into these numbers.

If you studied statistics, you'll understand that the sample size isn't as important as proper distribution of members of the sample.  A properly selected distribution of participants will more closely conform to the mathematical formulas for deviations and margins of error.

#TrustTheScience   :geekdanc:
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macsak

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2021, 08:30:34 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on November 22, 2021, 07:45:29 PM
Glad I got the J&J....
I hope these heart problems are not permanent.

Its not a huge sample size but it isn't small either. Think they definitely need to run a confirmatory study and soon. Covid is known to cause myocarditis in some people as well, I wonder how that factors into these numbers.

“We conclude that the mRNA [vaccines] dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."

focus
this IS myocarditis

but you are gonna say your are just "adding context"...
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Jl808

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2021, 07:12:59 AM »
I heard on a podcast or talk somewhere that its hard to do a proper study when they have also vaccinated their control group.
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MassConfusion

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2021, 07:57:45 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2021, 11:27:42 AM
FIFY.


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Would it be safe to eat?  I would assume that all the processing would remove any 'taint' from the product....
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2021, 11:32:52 AM »
Quote from: MassConfusion on November 23, 2021, 07:57:45 AM
Would it be safe to eat?  I would assume that all the processing would remove any 'taint' from the product....

Quote
Without properly preparing your person-meat, you run the risk of catching bloodborne diseases.
I’m talking hepatitis, Ebola, HIV, syphilis—all that fun stuff.

People are pretty filthy—dead or alive. Contamination from E. coli and other gut diseases are
also a threat to your wellbeing when you munch on mankind.

But if you’re really keen on living past your posthumous snack, it’s their brain that you have to
watch out for—the brain and those pesky prions.

A prion is a misfolded protein that causes prion diseases or transmissible spongiform
encephalopathies (TSEs).

Prion diseases affect the brain, giving it a sponge-esque form, not unlike Swiss cheese.

TSEs in humans were first observed in Papua New Guinea, when members of the Fore tribe died
after consuming their loved ones in cannibalistic funeral rites. Their disease, called kuru, started
with unsteadiness and tremors, then progressed to emotional instability, incontinence, unresponsiveness,
ulcers and, ultimately, death.

Kuru was most often seen in women and children, as they traditionally ate the brain of the dead. The
brain has a much higher concentration of prions than other organs, but all other body parts (including
blood) could contain them.

If eaten, prions will convert normal proteins into more prions in a fatal, painful, incurable cascade.
https://particle.scitech.org.au/food/is-it-really-bad-to-eat-people/
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QUIETShooter

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2021, 12:32:53 PM »
I heard the portion from the thumb to wrist is juicy, tender, and succulent.  Also the ass cheeks are wonderfully full of fattiness and collagen, somewhat like fatty blue fin tuna.

And the neck bones make a great substitution for oxtail soup. :D
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hvybarrels

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2021, 02:18:17 PM »
mmmm prions

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2021, 04:00:50 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on November 23, 2021, 02:18:17 PM
mmmm prions

I love that movie!  A lot of detail went into the production, and the action scenes were great.  There's a great lesson in how one man sought the thing Eli had, but for the wrong reasons.

[trying to avoid spoilers for anyone who's not watched the movie]
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eyeeatingfish

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2021, 09:38:21 PM »
Quote from: macsak on November 22, 2021, 08:30:34 PM
“We conclude that the mRNA [vaccines] dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."

focus
this IS myocarditis

but you are gonna say your are just "adding context"...

Focus
I didn't say it wasn't myocarditis. I only said myocarditis is also known side effect of covid.

The implications there are that scientists need to find a way to tell whether a case of myocarditis is caused by the vaccine or by the covid (or both?)
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mrgaf

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2021, 11:04:33 AM »
[quote author=Flapp_Jackson

“called kuru, started
with unsteadiness and tremors, then progressed to emotional instability, incontinence, unresponsiveness,
ulcers and, ultimately, death.”

[/quote]

Sounds like Biden. Can only hope the end comes soon! >:D
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2021, 01:45:34 PM »
Quote from: mrgaf on November 24, 2021, 11:04:33 AM
[quote author=Flapp_Jackson

“called kuru, started
with unsteadiness and tremors, then progressed to emotional instability, incontinence, unresponsiveness,
ulcers and, ultimately, death.”



Sounds like Biden. Can only hope the end comes soon! >:D

I don't really want Biden dead, but if those are my only 2 options .....
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MassConfusion

Re: risk of heart attack more than doubled after mRNA vaxx
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2021, 02:00:54 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on November 24, 2021, 01:45:34 PM
I don't really want Biden dead, but if those are my only 2 options .....
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