On the financial news this morning they were showing companies that previously had no intention of hiring/buying/leasing robots for their businesses. The reason they are obtaining robots is due to the fact that they cannot fill positions with people right now because no one is applying for these positions. We still have a record number of Americans that are not participating in the labor force for one reason or another. So businesses are turning to robots to fill positions. They don’t want to do this but feel compelled because they need to fill positions and cannot. This is different from companies like McDonalds obtaining robots to replace workers with a high hourly rate to save money. They are obtaining robots because they cannot fill positions. My opinion is once they do this and robots start saving the company money, then those positions will be lost forever. So in a way the worker that refuses to come back to the workforce for whatever reason is screwing themselves out of a job later on down the road. When they get desperate they will learn a valuable lesson I think.

Here is a related article but not related directly to the report I watched on the financial news this morning.

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/578484-employees-are-not-showing-up-to-work-employers-are-replacing-them-with

Invest in making a virus to kill off people, then invest in robot manufacturing.
A no-brainer.

Robots replacing people have been happening for a long time and will continue to happen. They would happen even if we didn't have a worker shortage or increasing worker costs though these two things may make the replacement happen at a quicker rate.

Robots replacing people have been happening for a long time and will continue to happen. They would happen even if we didn't have a worker shortage or increasing worker costs though these two things may make the replacement happen at a quicker rate.

cool story, bro.

Robots replacing people have been happening for a long time and will continue to happen. They would happen even if we didn't have a worker shortage or increasing worker costs though these two things may make the replacement happen at a quicker rate.

I've been a little suspicious that a few forum members may actually be robots (i.e. Bots). 

But, that's another topic...   

cool story, bro.

Guess he didn’t understand the point I was trying to make.

Was at Costco Iwilei last week and it was cray-cray, especially one "unhappy" shopper.
I asked the check out girl if that scared her and without missing a beat, she said "no, that scares me" as she looked over her shoulder at the several newly installed self scanning check out machines. 

Mrs. CMO is looking for another job because her current job she travels too much.  She's been looking for 6 months and nothing that will pay her what she is currently getting, or even close to it. Basically a 50% pay cut would be the average in the same industry.  For those who are paying close to what she's getting, she isn't qualified.

So some say to just change careers. She did look into other careers and many start off at the bottom due to her having no XP, which means starting pay mid $30's to low $40's. Again a huge pay cut. And why work a new field if she really doesn't plan on making a career out of it. So spending 10 years to work her way up isn't an option because she is waiting for something in her field to come up.

This is just 1 industry. I have a few other friends in the same boat in other industries who were fired due to COVID. Their jobs are back, but at half the pay.  Many companies realized they can fire the higher paying workers and hire new ones at way less pay.  And COVID was the perfect reason to fire without getting a wrongful termination suit later.  So the media asked why so many jobs when so many are unemployed, this is 1 reason. Low pay means people will hold out.  And many of these 500K jobs that they're claiming aren't new jobs, but existing positions being offered back due to firings related to COVID.

Mrs. CMO is looking for another job because her current job she travels too much.  She's been looking for 6 months and nothing that will pay her what she is currently getting, or even close to it. Basically a 50% pay cut would be the average in the same industry.  For those who are paying close to what she's getting, she isn't qualified.

So some say to just change careers. She did look into other careers and many start off at the bottom due to her having no XP, which means starting pay mid $30's to low $40's. Again a huge pay cut. And why work a new field if she really doesn't plan on making a career out of it. So spending 10 years to work her way up isn't an option because she is waiting for something in her field to come up.

This is just 1 industry. I have a few other friends in the same boat in other industries who were fired due to COVID. Their jobs are back, but at half the pay.  Many companies realized they can fire the higher paying workers and hire new ones at way less pay.  And COVID was the perfect reason to fire without getting a wrongful termination suit later.  So the media asked why so many jobs when so many are unemployed, this is 1 reason. Low pay means people will hold out.  And many of these 500K jobs that they're claiming aren't new jobs, but existing positions being offered back due to firings related to COVID.

The long slow glide down.  Welcome to the third world. 
Of course if you were to tell me this was all planned i would have to call you a conspiracy wackadoodle. 
BTW, I am assuming you meant 30-40k/yr  30-40/hr would be decent.

The long slow glide down.  Welcome to the third world. 
Of course if you were to tell me this was all planned i would have to call you a conspiracy wackadoodle. 
BTW, I am assuming you meant 30-40k/yr  30-40/hr would be decent.

Yup, $30K-$40K a year.

Guess he didn’t understand the point I was trying to make.

I was adding onto your point.

Mrs. CMO is looking for another job because her current job she travels too much.  She's been looking for 6 months and nothing that will pay her what she is currently getting, or even close to it. Basically a 50% pay cut would be the average in the same industry.  For those who are paying close to what she's getting, she isn't qualified.

So some say to just change careers. She did look into other careers and many start off at the bottom due to her having no XP, which means starting pay mid $30's to low $40's. Again a huge pay cut. And why work a new field if she really doesn't plan on making a career out of it. So spending 10 years to work her way up isn't an option because she is waiting for something in her field to come up.

This is just 1 industry. I have a few other friends in the same boat in other industries who were fired due to COVID. Their jobs are back, but at half the pay.  Many companies realized they can fire the higher paying workers and hire new ones at way less pay.  And COVID was the perfect reason to fire without getting a wrongful termination suit later.  So the media asked why so many jobs when so many are unemployed, this is 1 reason. Low pay means people will hold out.  And many of these 500K jobs that they're claiming aren't new jobs, but existing positions being offered back due to firings related to COVID.

Does Mrs. CMO have any bargaining power? Can she ask to travel less but keep her job? If a business is having a hard time finding workers that means she has more bargaining power

Does Mrs. CMO have any bargaining power? Can she ask to travel less but keep her job? If a business is having a hard time finding workers that means she has more bargaining power

Cost of labor doesn't care how many people are applying for work.  If your costs rise, and revenue falls, most companies can't react fast enough to free up the dollars needed short of letting employees go.

Labor is the #i cost in most large businesses.  When cuts need to be made, cutting back on the things they do to generate revenue (travel, etc) will be below cutting jobs.

Does Mrs. CMO have any bargaining power? Can she ask to travel less but keep her job? If a business is having a hard time finding workers that means she has more bargaining power

No. It's travel or pick a new career. She travels more due to HI's lack of tourism and busineases closing, thanks ige/kirk/rick.

Lack of work in HI, so need to travel to make 40hrs. Company has the $ to pay for the travel.

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Replacing workers with robots is a nice fantasy for greedy executives who still think we live in a world with endless energy and resources, but you need a functioning supply chain to keep those robots running and ours is not exactly in tip top shape.

Most likely all the recent robot hype is an attempt to scare uncooperative workers back into submission.

The blowback will be spectacular

Replacing workers with robots is a nice fantasy for greedy executives who still think we live in a world with endless energy and resources, but you need a functioning supply chain to keep those robots running and ours is not exactly in tip top shape.

Most likely all the recent robot hype is an attempt to scare uncooperative workers back into submission.

The blowback will be spectacular

Maybe in the Luddite days but I don't think we will see such a blowback, at least not until vast swaths are unemployed. We have already been slowly loosing many jobs to robots.

They can't even get robot cars to stay on the road. Today's technology is 90% hype.

They can't even get robot cars to stay on the road. Today's technology is 90% hype.

I get down to Phoenix every month or so. And those damn cars are every where! You literally can’t spend 5 minutes driving around anywhere without seeing one or more of them. They are the test mules and not the Teslas or whatever commercial vehicles that have that feature.

I don’t know what the crash statistics are but it would be interesting to find out.