DIPLOMAT The ‘Ulcer’ Strategy: How The US Military Could Wage War On China (Read 5033 times)

Inspector

DIPLOMAT The ‘Ulcer’ Strategy: How The US Military Could Wage War On China

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/12/the-ulcer-strategy-how-the-us-us-military-could-wage-war-on-china/
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Interesting article.  Sounds like a viable strategy.  Worked well with insurgents in previous wars which are small forces that cause big issues for the larger military.

ren

I remember when President Trump ordered an airstrike when he was entertaining China's Xi... the Boss!

Deeds Not Words

Inspector

I remember when President Trump ordered an airstrike when he was entertaining China's Xi... the Boss!


I remember, it was a stellar move. No playing around. We need a leader like him again.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

ren

I remember, it was a stellar move. No playing around. We need a leader like him again.

I'm pessimistic. The ulcers that were plaguing our country developed into cancer and spread. They are so entrenched in local and federal government, lack real-world experience but have a soap box 100 stories tall and a a black hole for a mouthpiece. These people lack any substance or connection to reality. They make decisions on emotions and cling to science when it is convenient for their narrative. They have psychopathic attributes such as delusions of grandeur where they believe they are chosen to deliver some kind of message like a fake prophet. Scary.
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Inspector

I'm pessimistic. The ulcers that were plaguing our country developed into cancer and spread. They are so entrenched in local and federal government, lack real-world experience but have a soap box 100 stories tall and a a black hole for a mouthpiece. These people lack any substance or connection to reality. They make decisions on emotions and cling to science when it is convenient for their narrative. They have psychopathic attributes such as delusions of grandeur where they believe they are chosen to deliver some kind of message like a fake prophet. Scary.
While I can’t disagree with your assessment I think I’m a little more optimistic about things. I see parents fighting back. I think we might have a red wave in 2022. While it won’t get rid of all the entrenched bad actors I think they will either leave on their own or will be removed by the new incoming conservatives if possible. And whoever wins in 2024 better clean house in the FBI or I think they will lose favor rather quickly with the electorate.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

We don't need a moron like Trump.   He would probably give in to china.  Get his flashy displays of fake competence.  The lack of understanding of facts and science.  Would have to give him the same old man treatment as given to Biden. Hopefully someone decent runs for office.  Desantis would be a better pick.  And well almost anyone than biden for the democrats would be preferred. 

macsak

I'm pessimistic. The ulcers that were plaguing our country developed into cancer and spread. They are so entrenched in local and federal government, lack real-world experience but have a soap box 100 stories tall and a a black hole for a mouthpiece. These people lack any substance or connection to reality. They make decisions on emotions and cling to science when it is convenient for their narrative. They have psychopathic attributes such as delusions of grandeur where they believe they are chosen to deliver some kind of message like a fake prophet. Scary.

good thing no one here acts like that...

ren

good thing no one here acts like that...

 those people are emotionally unstable but predictable...
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changemyoil66

those people are emotionally unstable but predictable...
Totally predictable.

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macsak

those people are emotionally unstable but predictable...

what do you mean, "those people"?

Kuleana

The whole idea of any US imperial military aggression towards China is sheer folly as militarily confronting Russia with the current Ukrainian situation.  Any such action in Eastern Europe or the South China Sea will signal the WWIII death nell for everyone on the planet and worse for the remnants of the US empire.

Even if there is no usage of nuclear weapons, there is no such things as winners in wars fought in the 21st century, among military peers.  Believing in some kind of US imperial victory over Russia and China is as delusional as thinking America will return to being the great republic it once was, its national debt being erased, and everyone within its increasing forever-porous borders holding hands and singing Kumbaya.

The fact the US imperial military is even contemplating the use of small-scale guerilla like tactics against China is indicative of knowing it can't win a conventional war with China without resorting to nuclear weapons.  Once more, even if it did have the necessary means to attempt such a conventional debacle, the resulting economic and financial collapse would destroy America internally, due to the resulting chaos, racial and ethnic hatreds, and subsequent Balkanization, through which what's left of the US empire would withdraw from the so-called war making the US empire's defeat totally complete.

I am sure Russia and China knows the scenario described above; hence, it explains why they both are taking the actions we all see unfolding.  If the US empire is smart, they will accept the new multi-polar World Order, withdraw its imperial military adventures, establish a Second American Republic with only those willing like-minded former states of the First Republic, and focus all of its efforts of making themselves internally competitive again.
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omnigun

The whole idea of any US imperial military aggression towards China is sheer folly as militarily confronting Russia with the current Ukrainian situation.  Any such action in Eastern Europe or the South China Sea will signal the WWIII death nell for everyone on the planet and worse for the remnants of the US empire.

Even if there is no usage of nuclear weapons, there is no such things as winners in wars fought in the 21st century, among military peers.  Believing in some kind of US imperial victory over Russia and China is as delusional as thinking America will return to being the great republic it once was, its national debt being erased, and everyone within its increasing forever-porous borders holding hands and signing Kumbaya.

The fact the US imperial military is even contemplating the use of small-scale guerilla like tactics against China is indicative of knowing it can't win a conventional war with China without resorting to nuclear weapons.  Once more, even if it did have the necessary means to attempt such a conventional debacle, the resulting economic and financial collapse would destroy America internally, due to the resulting chaos, racial and ethnic hatreds, and subsequent Balkanization, through which what's left of the US empire would withdraw from the so-called war making the US empire's defeat totally complete.

I am sure Russia and China knows the scenario described above; hence, it explains why they both are taking the actions we all see unfolding.  If the US empire is smart, they will accept the new multi-polar World Order, withdraw its imperial military adventures, establish a Second American Republic with only those willing like-minded former states of the First Republic, and focus all of its efforts of making themselves internally competitive again.

Ignoring China or Russia will lead the the fall of the human race.  Down with democracy and up with communism and dictators.   China is spending alot on defense and its foolish to believe we can easily win a long distance war.  If China were to attack us personally not our allies the war would look much different.   If the US was smart it will keep going in this direction.  If not China, Russia and its failed ideals will spread across the world and they will destroy our allies till we have no one left.  Then we too will fall. 

Kuleana

Ignoring China or Russia will lead the fall of the human race.
The human race has survived the legacies the Roman, Mongol, British, etc. empires of the past and will live on and evolve long after the US empire is gone.



Down with democracy and up with communism and dictators.
Are you describing America today?



If China were to attack us personally not our allies the war would look much different.
China will not attack the US empire; that's the only thing you can count on.  It's the US empire that is looking for a way to militarily attack China.



If the US was smart it will keep going in this direction.
The US is currently headed to the direction you are describing, and it is definitely not "smart", as it will lead to its own demise.



If not China, Russia and its failed ideals will spread across the world and they will destroy our allies till we have no one left.  Then we too will fall.
The US empire has no allies.  It has only temporary alliances, vassal states, and US CIA installed puppet regimes. 

How does that saying go?  "With allies like those above, who needs enemies" will ring very true for the US empire, if WWIII were to begin.

groveler

This is just my opinion but the main problem most the world's military's have is they are fighting the "Last" war,
and not the next one.
I'm a fan of Sun Tzu, and of 4GW theory.
Presently we are at war,  most people in the USA don't know it, and the Americans are losing.
Losing to Democrats and like thinking  people in China, Europe, and various other peoples with a
hate for freedom and personal rights.
No shots may ever be fired, but countries will lose resources( they are doing so now), industry will be
controlled by a fewer and few people, food, water, and services will be rationed.  The beauty of it all
is much of the population will voluntarily cooperate.
Just look at the USA today.
There will be local conflicts to be sure, but WWIII,  no.
 :popcorn:


omnigun

The human race has survived the legacies the Roman, Mongol, British, etc. empires of the past and will live on and evolve long after the US empire is gone.

Back then we didn't have such weapons as we have now.   Wouldn't put past China or Russia when losing the war to bring everyone down with them.

Are you describing America today?

No I am talking about the shitholes that are those commie countries.  In China they are exterminating an entire ethnic group....remind of a previous war that had to be had to stop?


China will not attack the US empire; that's the only thing you can count on.  It's the US empire that is looking for a way to militarily attack China.

They will just attack all of Asia...just like Hitler only wanted part of Europe eh. 


The US is currently headed to the direction you are describing, and it is definitely not "smart", as it will lead to its own demise.

It will lead to salvation.


The US empire has no allies.  It has only temporary alliances, vassal states, and US CIA installed puppet regimes. 

False.  We have plenty allies, Taiwan is one of them. 

How does that saying go?  "With allies like those above, who needs enemies" will ring very true for the US empire, if WWIII were to begin.

Not even close.  Try be friends with China or Russia,  like trusting your local psychopath or homeless man.

Kuleana

Back then we didn't have such weapons as we have now.   Wouldn't put past China or Russia when losing the war to bring everyone down with them.
It's more like the rest of World are worried about the US empire losing WWIII and using strategic nukes as a desperate last attempt to avoid total defeat.



No I am talking about the shitholes that are those commie countries.  In China they are exterminating an entire ethnic group.... remind of a previous war that had to be had to stop?
Anti-Chinese Propaganda.  Please see below.





They will just attack all of Asia...just like Hitler only wanted part of Europe eh.
China has not undertaken a war of invasion towards any of its neighbors for over the last 100 years.  That's a solid track record when compared to the US empire that has almost never been in a period of peace since the fall of the Soviet Union.





False.  We have plenty allies, Taiwan is one of them.
Yes, the best allies that US Federal Reserve toilet paper can buy.   :rofl:



Not even close.  Try be friends with China or Russia, like trusting your local psychopath or homeless man.
At least those psychopaths you are referring can build entire cities in a matter of days rather than the local psychopaths that can't complete the local rail project within budget.

Furthermore, at least China is able to take care of their destitute population better than the US empire that breeds thousands of homeless derelicts to roam America's inner cities.

ren

Why argue with an ulcer?
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mrgaf

Why argue with an ulcer?

Or a hemorrhoid……  ::)
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

omnigun

Nobody wins a war except the defense contractors. China is currently winning the economic war. They are building trade relationships in Asia and Africa and are building their infrastructure. All they need is the fuel below the South China Sea. If the the U.S. goes back to isolating from the rest of the world it will lose. If we worship autocratic regimes we will also fail. If we elect an autocrat and allow state legislators to throw out the votes of the people the republic is over and we will be governed by dictators just like China, Russia, and Turkey, North Korea, Belarus and others. This is likely the current direction the U.S. is headed.


Interesting outlook.  I think while we may not have the perfect president or elected officials,  its still democratic and part of the process.  The fact that we have a choice is key.   I don't think the state legislators threw out votes or act like a dictatorship. 

As for China,  I do agree, its hard to win economically when you have near slave labor and actual slave labor.   In the end the cost of goods tends to drive profit.   Nothing wrong with defense contractors,  sure they get rich but we get stronger.  China is indeed trying to take over Asia and Africa,  they are trying to become the next world superpower and control.  Basically the same as previous USA but instead with communism and evil.  The USA should not go back to isolating,  one of the things I deeply disagreed with Trump,  we need to out, build more allies, and spread freedom and democracy to more nations.   Then we can hold back the evil from this world.