Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 298715 times)

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #140 on: February 21, 2022, 08:57:26 AM »
From Putin himself on the two-face US empire when it comes to obeying treaties...

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #141 on: February 21, 2022, 09:05:42 AM »
Who's attacking who in Ukraine?

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #142 on: February 21, 2022, 09:09:43 AM »
How much more proof do people need to know who is behind the move towards WWIII?

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #143 on: February 21, 2022, 09:12:11 AM »
Too late.. US imperial paid mercenaries have already begun their false-flag operations on the Russian border.


groveler

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #144 on: February 21, 2022, 09:42:06 AM »
How much more proof do people need to know who is behind the move towards WWIII?


This is no more "proof"  than that pencil necked American bureaucrat was offering.
I usually only read RT for science and disaster stuff as they are as much a propaganda
arm of the Russian Democrats as our MSM is the propaganda arm of our Democrats.

Putting on my history hat, Putin is merely doing what Hitler did in 1930's Germany.
The world let him do it and we know how that ended up.

Let Europe deal with it.
We have our own local problems.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #145 on: February 21, 2022, 09:48:32 AM »
This is no more "proof"  than that pencil necked American bureaucrat was offering.
I usually only read RT for science and disaster stuff as they are as much a propaganda
arm of the Russian Democrats as our MSM is the propaganda arm of our Democrats.

Putting on my history hat, Putin is merely doing what Hitler did in 1930's Germany.
The world let him do it and we know how that ended up.

Let Europe deal with it.
We have our own local problems.
But here is the thing.  It's the US empire that's goading the march towards WWIII.

To date, no US imperial official has officially justified NATO's expansion towards Russia, while fully knowing such expansion will cross Russia's national security bottom line.  The only rational explanation is what I have concluded for a long time now that the US empire does not care what happens domestically as long as it can keep its global domination; hence, war with Russia and/or China.


hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #146 on: February 21, 2022, 09:50:19 AM »
Nobody wants a hot war. Cold wars are far more profitable.
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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #147 on: February 21, 2022, 10:04:13 AM »
Here is the so-called pretext that the US empire needs to claim an impending Russian invasion, albeit it was the US empire / NATO arming Ukraine to set this situation-up like how they have been historically doing with arming Taiwan against China.  Putin has just officially recognized the Russian-speaking territories in Eastern Ukraine.


Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #148 on: February 21, 2022, 10:15:05 AM »
Nobody wants a hot war. Cold wars are far more profitable.
I would have to humbly disagree with you on this point.

Russia, China, and the rest of the World does not want WWIII, since it is clearly not in their collective interest.  However, with China taking over economic dominance over the planet in the next decade or so, the Power Okole and ultrawealthy that control the US empire can't and will not accept being second fiddle.  Hence, all the geopolitical evidence up-to-this point clearly illustrates the US empire provoking a war with Russia right now and China not so far behind.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #149 on: February 21, 2022, 10:20:01 AM »
I would have to humbly disagree with you on this point.

Russia, China, and the rest of the World does not want WWIII, since it is clearly not in their collective interest.  However, with China taking over economic dominance over the planet in the next decade or so, the Power Okole and ultrawealthy that control the US empire can't and will not accept being second fiddle.  Hence, all the geopolitical evidence up-to-this point clearly illustrates the US empire provoking a war with Russia right now and China not so far behind.

You seem excited about this prospect, as if you actually want this to happen. That's the problem with letting your anti-US emotions stand in for reason.
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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #150 on: February 21, 2022, 10:21:55 AM »
WOW... 

Exactly what I stated a few minutes ago what the US imperial corporate MSM would use to support their Russian invasion narrative.


Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #151 on: February 21, 2022, 10:27:23 AM »
You seem excited about this prospect, as if you actually want this to happen. That's the problem with letting your anti-US emotions stand in for reason.
Only a psychotic would support WWIII.

There is nothing you, I, or anyone can do to stop what is happening in Eastern Europe.  My goal in all this is to provide as much truth as to the reason how this impending madness led by the US empire started for posterity's sake.  Should WWIII take place, I wanted to be sure there was some record making clear how and who was truly responsible and that there were brave common people who knew and tried to speak against it.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #152 on: February 21, 2022, 10:34:26 AM »
This isn't Harry Potter good vs evil Saturday morning cartoon stuff (like what's going on in Canada right now)

This is about profiteering off of international instability

The risk for war is not zero but it's way less than you think

Every day we are no longer in Afghanistan the Military Industrial Complex has been losing money

They are seeking a profitable stalemate that assures a continuous revenue stream without the risk of mutually assured destruction
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macsak

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #153 on: February 21, 2022, 10:38:05 AM »
thank god you are here to tell us what is going to happen and why, no one here is able to predict or interpret what is going on for ourselves...

WOW... 

Exactly what I stated a few minutes ago what the US imperial corporate MSM would use to support their Russian invasion narrative.

macsak

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #154 on: February 21, 2022, 10:39:29 AM »
Only a psychotic would support WWIII.

There is nothing you, I, or anyone can do to stop what is happening in Eastern Europe.  My goal in all this is to provide as much truth as to the reason how this impending madness led by the US empire started for posterity's sake.  Should WWIII take place, I wanted to be sure there was some record making clear how and who was truly responsible and that there were brave common people who knew and tried to speak against it.

you think way too highly of this site and your thoughts if this is truly your goal...

DocMercy

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #155 on: February 21, 2022, 10:51:00 AM »
The smartest money always gravitates to Vegas betting parlors. So far they are not providing book, but when they do, the odds will be in the 30% range or higher of the invasion happening.



https://www.vegaselectionodds.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/russia-ukraine-invasion-odds-2022.jpg

It's all about the Rubles or the Benjamins.

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #156 on: February 21, 2022, 11:11:30 AM »
On a more serious note, despite my earlier post making fun of our leader's uncanny play by play on the invasion of Ukraine and all that hyperbole that is coming with it:

I normally would be cautiously concerned about the events unfolding in that region.

However, knowing who is in charge of our country makes me have panic attacks every now and then.  And it doesn't help knowing who is second in command.

Seems like Putin is playing chess with the U.S. but the U.S. just learned how to play yesterday.  The U.S. knows how to play the game, but has no knowledge nor experience as to how to win it.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #157 on: February 21, 2022, 11:26:03 AM »
The U.S. knows how to play the game, but has no knowledge nor experience as to how to win it.

Our definition of "win" hasn't been what you think it is for quite some time. It's all about profit for the parasites

https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/01/21/the-cold-war-reborn-and-resurgent/
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Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #158 on: February 21, 2022, 05:56:57 PM »
Putin's finest hour in the face of the US empire and its clients states of NATO aggression and encirclement.  The decision of WWIII now lies whether the US empire follows through on its provocative actions that led to this moment.


Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #159 on: February 21, 2022, 08:16:49 PM »
Western media says it is a sad day for Ukraine, but it seems Ukrainians in the newly recognized Donetsk are very happy.





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