So, if Russia and China strike a deal with Mexico and Canada to have military bases on their respective soil and, hence, Russian and Chinese missile launchers on the borders of the continental US, you would be ok with that?

It is amazing to see how the attitude about Russia and/or China as being always the aggressors no matter what the situation, when it is the US empire that has illegally invaded more sovereign nations than any other country without a formal declaration of war for the last 20 years; thereby, delegating the US Constitution as nothing but a piece of meaningless paper.

One thing most people miss about the USA and our posture in the world.
We keep our wars in other lands as much as possible.
British may have burned DC( they would be doing us a favor if they did it today)
But most of the USA hasn't been "occupied by "foreign soldiers" - ever.
We want to keep it that way.
I really appreciate the Russian paranoia.  But only Democrats seem to want to "poke the bear".
Personally I think Russians have much more to worry about in the China on their boarder.
Mongols obliterated them once already and they will do it again.
 

I've always questioned this. Who made it OK for the US to have bases and build ups in other countries, but other countries cannot do the same?  Like when Russia and Cuba had a deal, we almost went to war over it. But yet at the time, the US has missiles located close enough to Russia.

I am so glad for your objective issue-based post, as you could probably see that this thread was about to degenerate into a dogpiling of Kuleana, instead of a discussion pertaining to the issues Kuleana raised.

The answer to your question is obviously no one.  The decision to surround Russia and China for that matter with military forward operating bases and missile launchers all under the cover of defending the vassal and client states of the US empire is all baloney.  Russia and China are being militarily surrounded for the obvious purpose of invasion and/or destruction.  The age of national take-overs is a thing of the past.  As smart as you are, you should be able to see through the lies of American imperial propaganda that Russia and China are evil and want to take over territory to expand their borders, when in fact, all of their military moves were in response to the aggressive acts of the US imperial military machine and their so-called allies.

The Cuban missile crisis is a perfect example.  The Soviet Union was intent on positioning nuclear missiles in Cuba, but in response for the US empire / NATO having nuclear missiles stationed in Turkey.  What was often forgotten, however, was that it was the US / NATO who started the Cuban missile crisis by the stationing of nuclear missiles in Turkey that Khrushchev saw as being too close to Moscow.

I began to question this when I was in high school with the N.Korea nuke thing. It really should not be our business what other countries do, unless we are the official world police.  Like not OK for N. Korea, but OK for China, Russia, Japan, etc...

America often being described as the World's police is nothing but a polite way of saying that it is an empire, since when in human history did you have a nation ever being referred as the World's police?

So, if Russia and China strike a deal with Mexico and Canada to have military bases on their respective soil and, hence, Russian and Chinese missile launchers on the borders of the continental US, you would be ok with that?

It is amazing to see how the attitude about Russia and/or China as being always the aggressors no matter what the situation, when it is the US empire that has illegally invaded more sovereign nations than any other country without a formal declaration of war for the last 20 years; thereby, delegating the US Constitution as nothing but a piece of meaningless paper.

If the missiles are for defensive use only against a foreign power known for using force on its neighbors the way Russia has a history of doing, then I would not fault Mexico and Canada from wanting to defend their borders against a US incursion.  There are a lot of "ifs" there.

First, if the US attacks Canada or Mexico, how is that in any way a China or Russia situation?  Are they allies with Mexico and Canada?  Did Mexico and Canada ask Russia and China for help in establishing their military defenses?

Secondly, does the US have a recent history of encroaching on our geologically adjacent neighbors when we can't achieve our goals diplomatically and economically?

And since when did the Constitution become the sole document governing every aspect of our foreign policy?

To be fair, only 1 country in history has used nukes/atoms.

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To be fair, only 1 country in history has used nukes/atoms.

I'm glad it was us and not Japan or Germany.

Just saying ....

I'm glad it was us and not Japan or Germany.

Just saying ....

True.

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Russia's border lacks any kind of terrain that would pose natural obstacles to an invading army.  The land is flat and very easy for mechanized infantry to advance in lightening fashion.

I can see why they are getting pissed as NATO advances closer.

What really throws a wrench in this mess is Ukraine wants to be a member of NATO.

Russia looks at Ukraine like a little brother.  Ukraine sees themselves as a sovereign nation.

I don't see a way out of this mess.

But if Russia does start the invasion of Ukraine, this may seem cruel, but let it play out.  NATO should not interfere except to offer humanitarian refugee aid, medical supplies, and weapons for the Ukrainians.

But stay out of the fight.  Anything else would start WW3.



 

To be fair, only 1 country in history has used nukes/atoms.

Don't forget that the WWII hero in that same Pacific theater, General Macarthur, also advocated using the atomic bomb on China when they were losing against the Chinese PLA in North Korea during the Korean War.

Don't forget that the WWII hero in that same Pacific theater, General Macarthur, also advocated using the atomic bomb on China when they were losing against the Chinese PLA in North Korea during the Korean War.

Don't forget, MacArthur was relieved of his command duties as his position diverged from the formal policy positions of the US Government.

Not exactly a stellar personification of US Imperial military foreign policy.

On 11 April 1951, U.S. President Harry S. Truman relieved General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
of his commands after MacArthur made public statements that contradicted the administration's policies.
MacArthur was a popular hero of World War II who was then commander of United Nations Command
forces fighting in the Korean War, and his relief remains a controversial topic in the field of civil–military
relations.

MacArthur led the Allied forces in the Southwest Pacific during World War II, and after the war was in
charge of the occupation of Japan. In the latter role, MacArthur was able to accumulate considerable
power over the civil administration of Japan. Eventually, he gained a level of political experience that
has arguably been neither precedented nor repeated by anyone actively serving as a flag officer in the
U.S. military.

Russia's border lacks any kind of terrain that would pose natural obstacles to an invading army.  The land is flat and very easy for mechanized infantry to advance in lightening fashion.

I can see why they are getting pissed as NATO advances closer.

What really throws a wrench in this mess is Ukraine wants to be a member of NATO.

Russia looks at Ukraine like a little brother.  Ukraine sees themselves as a sovereign nation.

I don't see a way out of this mess.

But if Russia does start the invasion of Ukraine, this may seem cruel, but let it play out.  NATO should not interfere except to offer humanitarian refugee aid, medical supplies, and weapons for the Ukrainians.

But stay out of the fight.  Anything else would start WW3.

Excellent post, as I totally agree with your assessment.

I'm glad another fine American patriot is objective enough to see the geopolitical dangers of US empire / NATO expansion into the Ukraine from the Russian perspective.  Lest everyone forgets, Ukraine was one of the strategic objectives of Hitler's invasion into Russia that nearly cost the Soviet Union the war on their Western front.  Since Russia is well aware of this entry point that leads into the heart of Russia, one can understand that Ukraine is that strategic area, which Putin demands Russia's security guarantees.

Unfortunately, the US empire knows no boundaries and could care less about Russia's security concerns, despite fully knowing the strategic importance of Ukraine for Russia's national security.  In fact, that is why the need to incorporate Ukraine into one of its vassal states is key for the total Western military encirclement of Russia by the US empire.

Don't forget, MacArthur was relieved of his command duties as his position diverged from the formal policy positions of the US Government.

Not exactly a stellar personification of US Imperial military foreign policy.

Totally correct, as I am very pleased for your important insights on this particular matter.

The removal of the great General Macarthur is one of those cases why wars should not be left to sole discretion of its military commanders.  Had General Macarthur been given a blank check to use atomic weaponry against China, WWIII might have taken place and most of us might not have lived to be on this forum today.

First, if the US attacks Canada or Mexico, how is that in any way a China or Russia situation?  Are they allies with Mexico and Canada?  Did Mexico and Canada ask Russia and China for help in establishing their military defenses?

The same can be said of Ukraine.  Why is the US empire / NATO getting involved between the current dispute between Ukraine and Russia?  Since Ukraine is officially not part of NATO, it is not anyone's business to get involved with Ukraine's geopolitical affairs.

Secondly, does the US have a recent history of encroaching on our geologically adjacent neighbors when we can't achieve our goals diplomatically and economically?

Although not directly, the US empire through its so-called allies (i.e., vassal/client states) has moved its military forces strategically to encircle both Russia and China.

And since when did the Constitution become the sole document governing every aspect of our foreign policy?

Perhaps one of the greatest human documents ever created, the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

The US Constitution has everything to do with American foreign policy as it is and always has been only Congress that can pass a declaration of war.  This was purposely crafted by the Founding Fathers to prevent their nation from getting into foreign entanglements, which could eventually lead it to becoming an empire.  Since the last time Congress declared war was WWII, it is no wonder how the American republic has now become the US empire as evidenced by all the illegal wars of aggression and occupation that it has participated since that time without Congressional approval.

The same can be said of Ukraine.  Why is the US empire / NATO getting involved between the current dispute between Ukraine and Russia?  Since Ukraine is officially not part of NATO, it is not anyone's business to get involved with Ukraine's geopolitical affairs.


Although not directly, the US empire through its so-called allies (i.e., vassal/client states) has moved its military forces strategically to encircle both Russia and China.


Perhaps one of the greatest human documents ever created, the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

The US Constitution has everything to do with American foreign policy as it is and always has been only Congress that can pass a declaration of war.  This was purposely crafted by the Founding Fathers to prevent their nation from getting into foreign entanglements, which could eventually lead it to becoming an empire.  Since the last time Congress declared war was WWII, it is no wonder how the American republic has now become the US empire as evidenced by all the illegal wars of aggression and occupation that it has participated since that time without Congressional approval.

A sovereign, independent and stable Ukraine, firmly committed to democracy and the rule of law,
is key to Euro-Atlantic security. Relations between NATO and Ukraine date back to the early 1990s
and have since developed into one of the most substantial of NATO’s partnerships. Since 2014, in
the wake of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, cooperation has been intensified in critical areas.

Read about all the cooperative agreements the last 2+ decades between NATO and Ukraine.  Simply saying "Ukraine is not a member" is whitewashing the truth.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_37750.htm

The Constitution lays out the groundwork and procedures for HOW the US government works.  It does not create policy for implementation domestically or in the area of foreign relations.

Does the manual in your car's glove compartment tell you where to drive, what speed to go, or what laws to obey?  Of course not.  It documents HOW you operate the vehicle.  The operator alone decides on how, where and when the vehicle goes from point to point.

That analogy holds true to the Constitution.  How many times has the word "framework" appeared when describing this document?  I'd bet more times than not.

There are many agreements that dictate how the US acts globally.  One collection is the Geneva Conventions.  It goes well beyond anything the Constitution covers.

"Separatist" lob shells into Ukraine.

More signs of an impending invasion.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/last-piece-putin-puzzle-slots-180615525.html

The omens of impending war we were warned about now seem to be lining up like the horsemen of the apocalypse.
The field hospitals have been set near the border, blood banks have reportedly been brought in.

Best intel we have is a request by Israel for Russia's help in evacuating Israeli citizens from the Ukraine. They seem to anticipate events like this better than we do. The ideal time for the invasion is this weekend. The long 3-day weekend and the fact that our stock market is closed on Monday will give the world time to digest the attack. We all know that money is more important than lives to both capitalists and communist oligarchs.

So 1 president keeps us out of wars.

Another is getting us closer to 1. And inflation and all the other mess ups.

More signs of an impending invasion.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/last-piece-putin-puzzle-slots-180615525.html

Best intel we have is a request by Israel for Russia's help in evacuating Israeli citizens from the Ukraine. They seem to anticipate events like this better than we do. The ideal time for the invasion is this weekend. The long 3-day weekend and the fact that our stock market is closed on Monday will give the world time to digest the attack. We all know that money is more important than lives to both capitalists and communist oligarchs.

Ukraine was pretty upset when Israel asked Russia for help evacuating it's citizens.  To the point where the Ukranian Foreign Ministry summoned Israel's Ambassador and essentially demanded "WTF??!!??"

Ukraine is also pretty pissed that Israel made no formal statements lending support for Ukraine's plight.

So 1 president keeps us out of wars.

Another is getting us closer to 1. And inflation and all the other mess ups.

If Russia invades biden will jump up and down and gleefully proclaim:  "See? I was RIGHT!  I told you so.......!!"  never minding the fact that people are now dying and will die, and the relationships formed through years of diplomacy is back to ground zero.

No one knows what is going through President Putin's mind.  For all we know, he will continue to leave troops along HIS BORDER and keep withdrawing then advancing, keeping the western world futless, fatigued, and second guessing.

The MSM, NATO, and biden will look like fools.

Tin Foil moment.

What if BIden wants a war. War is a good way to destroy evidence. Like an artillery shell is dropped  on the building that has all the data or the building implodes and the excuse is it was hit by a plane or something.. Kind of like Building 7..................

Israeli intelligence services would never participate in a psyop