Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 336738 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1460 on: November 18, 2024, 08:39:58 AM »
Biden made the correct and late decision to help our ally.  Russians involved north Korea this was coming.   Should have happened a long time ago but better than nothing.  Though typical Russian Magas wouldn't understand.

I understand that you often feel the need to mention MAGA and like words.  You might want to seek professional help about this, but remember that HPD would require a clearance letter when you do.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1461 on: November 18, 2024, 08:40:30 AM »
No evidence of major election fraud for either election.  Harris got quite alot of votes this time around.

You still didn't read the Election Fraud 2020 thread.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1462 on: November 18, 2024, 08:42:49 AM »
You sound like Liz Cheney.  Let's keep fighting to win an unwinnable war, flush our nation's wealth down a toilet, and send our military to die, because that's how cowardly patriots act. As long as you can sit behind a keyboard criticizing peace efforts to stop the death, destruction and sheer waste of war, you're happy.

Unbelievable the Liberals who protested the Korea and Vietnam wars are now the war hawks who support the US military industrial complex waging wars against Russia and anyone else they don't like.

I hope you have a chance to watch some of Tulsi's videos with her speeches and interviews.  Maybe a little common sense will rub off on you.  But, that's wishful thinking.

Xhe obviously didn't study military history.  If 1 were to invade Russia, look how it worked out every time someone decided to do that. Napoleon and Hitler are 2 major examples.

Jaco808

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1463 on: November 18, 2024, 11:38:01 AM »
Xhe obviously didn't study military history.  If 1 were to invade Russia, look how it worked out every time someone decided to do that. Napoleon and Hitler are 2 major examples.

Ukraine isn't invading Russia to take land.   Other than kursk to get a geographic advantage. Ukraine is defending itself from an invader.  Russia started the war.   Stop blaming Ukraine.   Would you blame Taiwan if China attacked?   

Jaco808

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1464 on: November 18, 2024, 11:39:32 AM »
We did.  The biden/harris administration is no more. :thumbsup:

As far as our longest rival, there is a time and place for everything.  But unfortunately, your hero biden doesn't know what time it is and what place he is currently presiding in.

Answer this question:  Why now?  Why only now he gives the green light to strike deep into russia after 2 years of fighting?

His decision is almost on par with that deceptive "bi-partisan" border bill they tried to pass after 3 years of doing nothing while millions of illegal migrants flowed into the country.

His administration's whole tenure was nothing but "Why now?"  Why only now??" :rofl:

Why now?  Russia invited north Korea to the war.  They escalated so we escalated.

Jaco808

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1465 on: November 18, 2024, 11:41:04 AM »
I'm not a history buff but I would imagine a country (like russia presently), getting economically ruined, their perceived national security and influence being threatened by their enemies right in their own back yard, and their leader under intense scrutiny by his own people and international community, is a perfect recipe for a World War.

I often wonder if things would have ended differently had Trump been in office when Russia massed their troops on the Ukraine border.

He would probably not help or assist Russia.   Thank goodness he wasn't president.   

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1466 on: November 18, 2024, 11:45:08 AM »
Ukraine isn't invading Russia to take land.   Other than kursk to get a geographic advantage. Ukraine is defending itself from an invader.  Russia started the war.   Stop blaming Ukraine.   Would you blame Taiwan if China attacked?

Show me where I'm blaming Ukraine. 

You also moved goal post with your "other than kursk" statement.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1467 on: November 18, 2024, 11:46:13 AM »
He would probably not help or assist Russia.   Thank goodness he wasn't president.

Are you saying that you would have liked Trump to help or assist Russia?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1468 on: November 18, 2024, 11:56:53 AM »
He would probably not help or assist Russia.   Thank goodness he wasn't president.

100% wrong.

Trump is about to prove that to you.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1469 on: November 18, 2024, 12:11:31 PM »
Ukraine is defending itself from an invader.  Russia started the war.   Stop blaming Ukraine.
You 100% correct.

Ukraine was not responsible for starting the war as it was the US empire that began the war from behind the scenes.  See HB's post for details.



Would you blame Taiwan if China attacked?
Similar to Ukraine, it is neither China nor Taiwan that wants a war in Asia.

It is the US empire setting the stage for another proxy war (Ukraine 2.0) between China and its renegade province (Taiwan) and/or potentially including the Philippines.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1470 on: November 18, 2024, 12:29:26 PM »
You 100% correct.

Ukraine was not responsible for starting the war as it was the US empire that began the war from behind the scenes.  See HB's post for details.


Similar to Ukraine, it is neither China nor Taiwan that wants a war in Asia.

It is the US empire setting the stage for another proxy war (Ukraine 2.0) between China and its renegade province (Taiwan) and/or potentially including the Philippines.

Is xhe also correct about me blaming Ukraine for the war?  Because you posted that xhe is 100% correct about the post you quoted.

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1471 on: November 18, 2024, 12:30:28 PM »
He would probably not help or assist Russia.   Thank goodness he wasn't president.

You don't know, do you?  And how can you say thank goodness he wasn't president when under the 4 years of his administration the world was at relative peace.

Contrast that now with your hero biden.

Your TDS shows once again.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1472 on: November 18, 2024, 12:32:42 PM »
Why now?  Russia invited north Korea to the war.  They escalated so we escalated.

Typical biden.  All REACTIVE.  Never PROACTIVE.

Same as that border bill fiasco.  Majority of Americans complain and then he decides he'd better do something about it.  Wait till the water boils over then turn off the stove.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1473 on: November 18, 2024, 12:48:58 PM »
Typical biden.  All REACTIVE.  Never PROACTIVE.

Same as that border bill fiasco.  Majority of Americans complain and then he decides he'd better do something about it.  Wait till the water boils over then turn off the stove.

He still hasn't turned off the stove with regard to the border.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1474 on: November 18, 2024, 02:08:16 PM »
Honolulu Civil Beat owner Pierre Omidyar played a major role in the CIA's regime change operation in Ukraine.

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/02/20/pierre-omidyar-regime-change-cia-cutouts/

It's one of the reasons Civil Beat absolutely hates Tulsi Gabbard and is a leading voice in the smear campaign against her.
But now it looks like them chickens is about to come home to roost. Should have chosen their enemies more carefully.
I'm actually torn because their coverage of local corruption is second to none, just like the FBI who took down our dirty chief and prosecutor.
If CB goes bankrupt and FBI gets disbanded who's going to call out and clean up Hawaii's political cesspool?

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Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1475 on: November 18, 2024, 02:08:45 PM »
Why now?  Russia invited north Korea to the war.  They escalated so we escalated.

Invited?  Is this a war or a social event?

Is life in North Korea so horrible young men are literally dying to get out and fight for Russia?

Is North Korea not getting anything from Russia?  Food?  Oil?  Natural gas?  All of which Russia produces in great supply.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1476 on: November 18, 2024, 02:11:09 PM »
Honolulu Civil Beat owner Pierre Omidyar played a major role in the CIA's regime change operation in Ukraine.

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/02/20/pierre-omidyar-regime-change-cia-cutouts/

It's one of the reasons Civil Beat absolutely hates Tulsi Gabbard and is a leading voice in the smear campaign against her.
But now it looks like them chickens is about to come home to roost. Should have chosen their enemies more carefully.
I'm actually torn because their coverage of local corruption is second to none, just like the FBI who took down our dirty chief and prosecutor.
If CB goes bankrupt and FBI gets disbanded who's going to call out and clean up Hawaii's political cesspool?

Ukraine has been a money laundering haven for decades until recent leadership bucked the corrupt government system.

One name proves it:  Hunter Biden
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1477 on: November 18, 2024, 03:07:22 PM »
Ukraine has been a money laundering haven for decades until recent leadership bucked the corrupt government system.

One name proves it:  Hunter Biden

Now all evidence was destroyed in the war. Great timing.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1478 on: November 18, 2024, 03:37:37 PM »
Now all evidence was destroyed in the war. Great timing.

If it was me, I'd have backup copies of digital media stored in "the cloud".  You're still living in a paper-based world!   :geekdanc:

You never know when you'll need to twist a president's arm to get more US-funded weapons and plane loads of cash.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1479 on: November 18, 2024, 03:56:11 PM »
If it was me, I'd have backup copies of digital media stored in "the cloud".  You're still living in a paper-based world!   :geekdanc:

You never know when you'll need to twist a president's arm to get more US-funded weapons and plane loads of cash.

This gives them the good excuse when people are looking for evidence.  "The building was destroyed by Putin's people. Not our fault". I'm sure they are keeping back ups, but finding it in a warzone would be any investigators problem.