The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace (Read 6547 times)

ren

The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« on: February 09, 2022, 05:25:20 PM »
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/30046/Feds-Bust-Two-Legislators-in-Cesspool-Bribery-Scheme

http://archives.starbulletin.com/96/11/22/news/satnews.html

Jamie "Kalani" English, now 30, was indicted by an Oahu grand jury on April 20, 1988, on a charge of promoting a dangerous drug in the third degree. He was arrested on the charge May 4, 1988, according to court records.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2022, 05:35:12 PM by ren »
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ren

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2022, 07:29:57 PM »
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Don't go there:

Consider recent history. In 2018, Republican Rep. Chris Collins of New York faced a federal criminal indictment. The congressman initially tried to back out of his re-election campaign, then reversed course, then narrowly won anyway. The same year, Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter of California also faced multiple federal charges, also ran for re-election, and was also rewarded by his constituents with another term.

Both were ultimately sentenced to prison, and both received presidential pardons from Donald Trump, who was unusually supportive of political corruption. But the larger point remains the same: These Republicans' constituents didn't much mind that their representative was under criminal indictment.

You telling me to "Don't go there?" Are you the thought police? Is that a threat? Only you can post certain things?
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hvybarrels

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2022, 07:44:25 PM »
You telling me to "Don't go there?" Are you the thought police? Is that a threat? Only you can post certain things?

Yes it thinks it is the thought police, and the people it works for are certifiably insane
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

rpoL98

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2022, 09:01:23 PM »
every time Crazy Mazie opens her mouth, we hide in shame.  It makes national news, laughing stock news, but not a peep out of the local news outlets.  How you figgah?

RSN172

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2022, 10:54:58 PM »
every time Crazy Mazie opens her mouth, we hide in shame.  It makes national news, laughing stock news, but not a peep out of the local news outlets.  How you figgah?
I tink so da local news outlet stay run by liberal Dumocrats. Az why dey no report da news straight up, but try fo feed us bullshit an half truths an even outright lies.
Happily living in Puna

Brystont1

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2022, 11:05:14 PM »
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Don't go there:

Consider recent history. In 2018, Republican Rep. Chris Collins of New York faced a federal criminal indictment. The congressman initially tried to back out of his re-election campaign, then reversed course, then narrowly won anyway. The same year, Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter of California also faced multiple federal charges, also ran for re-election, and was also rewarded by his constituents with another term.

Both were ultimately sentenced to prison, and both received presidential pardons from Donald Trump, who was unusually supportive of political corruption. But the larger point remains the same: These Republicans' constituents didn't much mind that their representative was under criminal indictment.

How does any of this disprove the democrat party is a disgrace?

QUIETShooter

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2022, 03:33:39 AM »
How does any of this disprove the democrat party is a disgrace?

It doesn't, LOL!

Usually one would counter with all the wonderful things the dumokrats or those two sh*theads are doing to make our world a wonderful place to live and play in.

And couldn't find any.  Or much. :rofl:

Corruption in all aspects of gov't and leadership in Hawaii is no secret.  And overall apathy at the polls is the reason the same turds get re-elected.

And we can start a whole bunch of threads when it comes to crazy mazie.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2022, 01:03:36 PM »
cool story, bro

It's like the pot calling the kettle black? There are probably more corrupt politicians in the Republican party. The Trump administration was the most corrupt in modern times. The good thing is that Democrat politicians that commit crimes are prosecuted. Republican politicians that commit crimes are pardoned. Just because a party has corrupt members does not make the party a disgrace. When the party ignores the corruption of it's members and even condones that corruption, it is a disgrace. The RNC classifying the 1/6 attack on our capital as a "legitimate political discourse" is a disgrace.

changemyoil66

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2022, 01:06:57 PM »
It's like the pot calling the kettle black? There are probably more corrupt politicians in the Republican party. The Trump administration was the most corrupt in modern times. The good thing is that Democrat politicians that commit crimes are prosecuted. Republican politicians that commit crimes are pardoned. Just because a party has corrupt members does not make the party a disgrace. When the party ignores the corruption of it's members and even condones that corruption, it is a disgrace. The RNC classifying the 1/6 attack on our capital as a "legitimate political discourse" is a disgrace.


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ren

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hvybarrels

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2022, 11:49:26 PM »
https://www.kitv.com/news/legislative-committee-pursuing-investigation-against-state-rep-sharon-har/article_dafc2274-8bcc-11ec-8431-2bcdfad24dd7.html

Democrats in power for too long...power corrupts

This is great news. A house cleaning this size means an opportunity has finally opened up to get some patriots in the door in Nov.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

dogman

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2022, 12:15:18 AM »
Sharon Har is pro 2a

hvybarrels

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2022, 01:53:53 AM »
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2022, 09:08:05 AM »
I actually agree that Sharon Har should have been prosecuted and didn't understand why the chargers were dismissed. As a Democrat I would agree that we need to fix that. As a Republican do you feel you could do some house cleaning as well?

Name a Hawaii Republican in office who made the news under similar circumstances.

Better yet, name a Hawaii Republican in elected office.

Given that a Republican serving in office is as scarce as hen's teeth, there's not much cleaning required.  Corruption is at its finest when one party rules a state.  It's also apparent when one party controls the House, Senate, Judiciary and White House -- which is why the Democrats are going crazy talking about packing the Supreme Court and filling a retiring justice's vacancy before the midterm elections.

If you want to talk about cleaning house, getting rid of the one-party-lock in this state would be more productive than arguing about who's party is worse.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2022, 09:38:23 AM »
I’m pretty sure the problems in this state aren’t related to having too many Republicans in office, in spite of the best attempts of some hardcore leftists to spin it that way.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

changemyoil66

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2022, 11:43:46 AM »
Name a Hawaii Republican in office who made the news under similar circumstances.

Better yet, name a Hawaii Republican in elected office.

Given that a Republican serving in office is as scarce as hen's teeth, there's not much cleaning required.  Corruption is at its finest when one party rules a state.  It's also apparent when one party controls the House, Senate, Judiciary and White House -- which is why the Democrats are going crazy talking about packing the Supreme Court and filling a retiring justice's vacancy before the midterm elections.

If you want to talk about cleaning house, getting rid of the one-party-lock in this state would be more productive than arguing about who's party is worse.
The senate has 1 GOP. And he supports the 2a. But is vasly out numbered. I only know this because i work on legislative outreach. I dont expect everyone to know this.

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dogman

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2022, 12:35:58 PM »
Does not matter. I'm sure if any of us were in the same situation we would have a DUI on our record, which can lead to loss of job, clearance, increase costs of insurance. A DUI can literally turn a person's life upside down. Lose job, can't pay mortgage, lose house. Driving without insurance is irresponsible.

We can't give her a pass just because we agree on her 2A views. We should all be treated equally. There needs to be.

Too bad she was not required to use the Public Defenders Office to obtain her counsel.
I agree with you. I was glad to hear her charges were initially dropped as she is a friend to gun owners. I do agree she acted very irresponsibly and deserves proper punishment,"equal justice under the law and in politics". I just wanted to say that just because she is a democrat doesn't mean she needs to be replaced. I do not vote for a candidate just because they are 2a friendly, although the ones that are, seem to share my views.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2022, 01:00:58 PM »
I agree with you. I was glad to hear her charges were initially dropped as she is a friend to gun owners. I do agree she acted very irresponsibly and deserves proper punishment,"equal justice under the law and in politics". I just wanted to say that just because she is a democrat doesn't mean she needs to be replaced. I do not vote for a candidate just because they are 2a friendly, although the ones that are, seem to share my views.

You mentioned "equal justice," but when a Democrat messes up, they forget about all the times they screamed "Hold him/her to a higher standard!" for those not in their party.

I believe in equal justice WITH EXCEPTIONS.  One exception is this case.  When someone in a position of public trust shows a complete lack of good judgement and self control, I think the higher standard needs to be applied.  I'm not much for a one-mistake society where you get your life ruined for your first mistake.  But neither do I think the tax payers need to continue paying that person a salary when they broke their oath of office and behaved recklessly.

I wonder if those still supporting her would be doing so if she'd killed someone with her car that night?  This is not the first "public servant" to get caught operating a vehicle while intoxicated.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/14898166/sentencing-set-for-hpd-officer-accused-of-drunk-driving/

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2011/04/22/breaking-news/police-officer-arrested-after-kona-street-crash/

https://www.croninfried.com/in-the-news/fatal-crash-suit-settlement-okd/

When the people responsible for writing and enforcing the laws break them, why should they not be held to a higher standard?  They should know better than anyone the potential outcomes from breaking those laws.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rpoL98

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2022, 01:27:26 PM »
i saw that our favorite communist Karl Rhoads had accepted campaign contributions from the same "Person A", Milton Choy.  no surprise.

dogman

Re: The Democrat Party is a legitimate political disgrace
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2022, 01:33:43 PM »
When the people responsible for writing and enforcing the laws break them, why should they not be held to a higher standard?  They should know better than anyone the potential outcomes from breaking those laws.
No argument from me. If you are paid to write or enforce the laws, your punishment should be greater if you knowingly break the law.