Killed right in front of a police station...without a firearm..no knife...a tree trunk!
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/16/woman-critical-condition-following-attack-outside-kapolei-police-station/

Killed right in front of a police station...without a firearm..no knife...a tree trunk!
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/16/woman-critical-condition-following-attack-outside-kapolei-police-station/

Need to register trees.
Registrations stops crime!

So much fo relying on cops fo save yoa ass.

They gambled and went for the bigger prize and now a woman is dead. 

Right after being released from said police station on charges of assaulting a cop.

We so friendly that we allow da homeless to sleep on the benches in front of the station. Yeah, even in town (Beretania St) where you used to stand in line for a PTA. That why we called the Aloha state. However, you a tax paying citizen is told to get off the bench and stand in the rain.

Will have to limit 10 branches per tree…

This is more a commentary on the policies of this state regarding the mentally ill than it is the judge turning him loose pending an investigation.

We treat the mentally ill as if they have the same rights to live freely in society as the rest. The only problem in this case is, he was diagnosed as being dangerous to others after having a history of violence.  It seems the mentally ill are given more freedom after committing a crime for the simple fact that incarceration (1) doesn't solve the problem, and (2) incarceration makes that person the state's problem for as long as they hold him.  That includes the problems they might cause among the other prisoners, for the jailers, etc.  A disruptive, potentially violent person would need to  go straight to solitary or a private cell until the investigation finishes.

Then there's the problem of the other inmates taking advantage of a mentally ill person just awaiting a hearing or the completed investigation.  I can't imagine the things they might do to someone who it unable to defend themselves due to their condition.  For that matter, how many fights might they start just from saying the wrong things?

We have absolutely NO SOLUTIONS in place for those with mental illness.  As such, society pays the price.  Until we as voters and as private citizens cry out to make the madness on our streets stop, the rights of the mentally ill take precedence.

- What do we do with the mentally ill committing crimes?
- Well, we can't afford to treat them all, so we arrest them, try to prescribe meds, and turn them loose again.
- So, instead of paying to arrest, medicate and deal with them when they commit crimes, why not use that money to treat them instead?
- We tried that, but found out it's cheaper to turn them loose as soon as possible than trying to actually treat them.

Hindsight is 20/20.  The Cops and judge know now keeping him for 24 hours observation might have saved an innocent woman's life, but that was against policy.

 

Coulda held him for a couple years under the wrong identity. 

Didn't we have a mental hospital? That's where they'd go.

Hb1732 would prevent tasers near a police station.

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Sadly, most of us have relatives who are mentally ill. It was bad enough when there were mental hospitals (Arkham Asylum  ) to house these people, but deinstitutionalization by federal and state governments has spread the problem to the streets.



Crazy is not bad if you can earn money from it without killing people, with Chris Rock being a high-income earner in that class, but the vast majority of the crazy are dangerous to themselves and the public. The right to bear arms and vote are two fundamental rights in the Constitution. Yet, owning a gun in Hawaii can be banned for the mentally ill. The gubmint should consider taking away the vote from the crazies. Next step would be deportation, until they get well. Sounds radical, but no one has come up with a better idea, without spending trillions of dollars.

its the system's fault...what ever the "system" is
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/18/woman-murdered-outside-kapolei-police-station-remembered-infectious-personality/

“It was just one of the most horrible things I’ve ever heard of in my career,” he said.

Fong said when he found out he was in disbelief.

He says the system failed Johnson and the man who allegedly killed her. And he added that more needs to be done to address Hawaii’s mental health crisis.

“It’s something we need to discuss more,” said Fong. “And it’s something that our Representatives, we could help them better understand.”

its the system's fault...what ever the "system" is
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/18/woman-murdered-outside-kapolei-police-station-remembered-infectious-personality/

“It was just one of the most horrible things I’ve ever heard of in my career,” he said.

Fong said when he found out he was in disbelief.

He says the system failed Johnson and the man who allegedly killed her. And he added that more needs to be done to address Hawaii’s mental health crisis.

“It’s something we need to discuss more,” said Fong. “And it’s something that our Representatives, we could help them better understand.”

More needs to be done... like keeping them locked away

More needs to be done... like keeping them locked away

How about harvesting any good organs and burning da rest. I heard there is a long waiting list for kidneys and such. 

More needs to be done... like keeping them locked away

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This story really ticked me off.
Problem is that locking somebody up costs US taxpayers money that could be used for other really useful things.

what to do?
we don't have the death penalty

Here is a thought...let's freeze the crazy bastard. Like leftover thanksgiving turkey.
The expectation is that technology will progress to the point where mental illness can be cured with a pill or vaccine.
Technological progress will also allow frozen people to be brought back to life, at which time we can give them the pill to cure the mental illness.
We don't have to keep him on ice forever. Just maybe until he gets to be 100 or so. Put an expiration date on the ziploc bag and toss it after he expires.
I think that is more than a fair amount of time to give him a chance at redemption.

In this way, taxpayers pay for the liquid nitrogen and a small electricity bill but no need to pay for costly prisons, food, prison guards, medical care, etc.
Sounds like a win-win solution to me.

I think this is the result of years of us dismantling the "nuclear family"

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This story really ticked me off.
Problem is that locking somebody up costs US taxpayers money that could be used for other really useful things.

what to do?
we don't have the death penalty

Here is a thought...let's freeze the crazy bastard. Like leftover thanksgiving turkey.
The expectation is that technology will progress to the point where mental illness can be cured with a pill or vaccine.
Technological progress will also allow frozen people to be brought back to life, at which time we can give them the pill to cure the mental illness.
We don't have to keep him on ice forever. Just maybe until he gets to be 100 or so. Put an expiration date on the ziploc bag and toss it after he expires.
I think that is more than a fair amount of time to give him a chance at redemption.

In this way, taxpayers pay for the liquid nitrogen and a small electricity bill but no need to pay for costly prisons, food, prison guards, medical care, etc.
Sounds like a win-win solution to me.

It does cost money but it also keeps the rest of the people safer.

And law makers wanna ban tasers in this building and parking lot

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