This is disturbing to me.
These guys are arrested before they did anything wrong.
If these guys are guilty of a crime, then can't the same thing happen to all of us who have guns?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/white-supremacists-arrested-at-idaho-pride-event/vi-AAYmUnX?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8af6e7e98f1c4b35aebda76f9c02a55f

Patriot Front is a fake organization which is why they have their faces covered all the time. Antifa had a significant Fedboi presence as well.

They are trying to convince us through theatrics that we need to surrender all our rights so that the government can keep us safe.

It is indeed disturbing that they didn't even commit a crime and were still arrested

It is indeed disturbing that they didn't even commit a crime and were still arrested

Wasn't there a movie about that?  Arresting people before they commit a crime?

Wasn't there a movie about that?  Arresting people before they commit a crime?

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Yep
The pre crime unit in minority report

This is disturbing to me.
These guys are arrested before they did anything wrong.
If these guys are guilty of a crime, then can't the same thing happen to all of us who have guns?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/white-supremacists-arrested-at-idaho-pride-event/vi-AAYmUnX?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8af6e7e98f1c4b35aebda76f9c02a55f

Planning to commit a crime is a crime. If you and I wanted to rob a bank and took steps towards completing a bank robbery we could be arrested. If I hired a hitman to kill someone then I have already committed a crime even if the hitman never killed anyone yet.

I read a few articles about this and none gave much in the way of details of the evidence. The articles reported that police found documentation in the truck which led them to believe they were planning to riot. Without any details it is impossible to tell whether officers had enough information to justify a resting all of them or not.

I too was concerned after reading the headline. How could they arrest so many people on what they thought was a plan to riot? But it is possible that there may have been enough evidence to establish probable cause that the group intended to riot so I I'm going to withhold judgment until I get more information about this case

there's a video of the police spokesperson on the scene speaking to media, and they said "there were people in the chat", i am assuming in response to a question about how the knew about the intentions of the group

Planning to commit a crime is a crime. If you and I wanted to rob a bank and took steps towards completing a bank robbery we could be arrested. If I hired a hitman to kill someone then I have already committed a crime even if the hitman never killed anyone yet.

I read a few articles about this and none gave much in the way of details of the evidence. The articles reported that police found documentation in the truck which led them to believe they were planning to riot. Without any details it is impossible to tell whether officers had enough information to justify a resting all of them or not.

I too was concerned after reading the headline. How could they arrest so many people on what they thought was a plan to riot? But it is possible that there may have been enough evidence to establish probable cause that the group intended to riot so I I'm going to withhold judgment until I get more information about this case

Well, FWIW, here is my thought.

Suppose that I am a TV screenwriter that has a hobby of shooting guns.
I write an episode of Magnum P.I. that details a plot to murder somebody.
So here we have a script, which is exactly like a plan, and I have the tools/weapon and the skill to carry out that plan.

I could be arrested just like those ole boys in Idaho, right?
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BTW, I think those boys did have an intent to cause trouble.
But I think just the presence of police would have prevented any violence.

Lots of radical groups are using "peaceful protest" as an excuse to carry out their agenda.

But not sure about how this particular incident was handled by LE.  Looks like lots of LE are running scared nowadays.

First story that was released said a neighbor saw a bunch of guys getting into the back of a Uhaul and called 911. I doubted this from the beginning.  I'll bet they had a Narc in the group. Or worst, Snowden type of stuff going on.

I wonder how much Antifa has been arrested like this in the past 6 years?  I mean I've seen pics/vids of them in the streets with shields and uniforms and destroying property.

Curious ...  how many times did ANTIFA or BLM members get arrested on their way to perform a "counter protest" somewhere?

ANTIFA :  Members all dressed alike and "armed" with not only weapons, but also first aid supplies to treat smoke, teargas and traumatic injuries.

Those people were obviously not going there to simply observe.

 

Curious ...  how many times did ANTIFA or BLM members get arrested on their way to perform a "counter protest" somewhere?

ANTIFA :  Members all dressed alike and "armed" with not only weapons, but also first aid supplies to treat smoke, teargas and traumatic injuries.

Those people were obviously not going there to simply observe.

 

what do you mean, "those people"?

what do you mean, "those people"?

What would you call them?  Animals?

New Report Reveals Demographics of Black Lives Matter Protesters
Shows Vast Majority Are White, Marched Within Their Own Cities

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-report-reveals-demographics-of-black-lives-matter-protesters-shows-vast-majority-are-white-marched-within-their-own-cities-301079234.html

Supposedly these are pictures of the guys who were arrested.

More likely they are just some poor schlubs who answered the pms from someone on armslist "selling autosears" and were offered the opportunity to have their image used in a psyop as part of their plea agreement.

"Good news, citizen.  You work for us now!"

First story that was released said a neighbor saw a bunch of guys getting into the back of a Uhaul and called 911. I doubted this from the beginning.  I'll bet they had a Narc in the group. Or worst, Snowden type of stuff going on.

I wonder how much Antifa has been arrested like this in the past 6 years?  I mean I've seen pics/vids of them in the streets with shields and uniforms and destroying property.

I find the neighbor seeing suspicious activity plausible. I mean if you saw a bunch of guys dressed up like that pile into a U-Haul van I think you would suspect something bad was about to happen.

The one thing that bothers me about that account is how did the police develop enough information to justify the arrests from just a traffic stop. They could stop the truck and if there was any sort of violation such as seat belts requirements they could identify everyone in the truck but it would be hard to justify a search of the van for documents and whatnot.

I would suspect that they did have some sort of inside source with additional information

I find the neighbor seeing suspicious activity plausible. I mean if you saw a bunch of guys dressed up like that pile into a U-Haul van I think you would suspect something bad was about to happen.

The one thing that bothers me about that account is how did the police develop enough information to justify the arrests from just a traffic stop. They could stop the truck and if there was any sort of violation such as seat belts requirements they could identify everyone in the truck but it would be hard to justify a search of the van for documents and whatnot.

I would suspect that they did have some sort of inside source with additional information

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Obviously, they have precogs.

but seriously, the police better have some solid evidence or somebody is going to be sued

I would suspect that they did have some sort of inside source with additional information

That's why I said the "neighbor" calling the cops is BS.

I would suspect that they did have some sort of inside source with additional information

Those cops arresting them didn't appear agitated or even remotely concerned for their safety. It seemed more like everyone was just going through the motions for the cameras.

And the fact that they aren't pulling the balaclavas down to do identification checks? When was the last time you dealt with a cop and they didn't demand some sort of ID?

It's pretty clear who the "source" was. Just more made for TV staged garbage like Jan 6 committee.

And at the same time as an attempted murder of a SC justice by a radical lefty. Which story got more coverage?

How convenient.

Those cops arresting them didn't appear agitated or even remotely concerned for their safety. It seemed more like everyone was just going through the motions for the cameras.

And the fact that they aren't pulling the balaclavas down to do identification checks? When was the last time you dealt with a cop and they didn't demand some sort of ID?

It's pretty clear who the "source" was. Just more made for TV staged garbage like Jan 6 committee.

And at the same time as an attempted murder of a SC justice by a radical lefty. Which story got more coverage?

How convenient.

Yep.  Seems like anyone, including ANTIFA and BLM activists, could have been posing as "White Supremacists/Nationalists" to create a news event that supports the DOJ's press conferences on "the greatest domestic threat in the US."

Think "The Jussie Smollett hoax" on steroids.  Can't find an actual group to arrest, so create your own!

That's why I said the "neighbor" calling the cops is BS.

I understand the skepticism and I share it but I was just saying it is concievable.