Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy (Read 19073 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #100 on: July 13, 2022, 09:36:31 PM »
The 6 justices who overturned Roe should never know peace again. It is our civic duty to accost them every time they are in public. They are pariahs. Since women don't have their rights, these justices should never have a peaceful moment in public again.

— Alejandra Caraballo (@Esqueer_) June 25, 2022

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-should-never-know-peace-again-harvard-instructor-calls-people-accost-justices-public


You can't reason with people like this

The ruling should have come as no surprise.  Ruth Bader Ginsburg regularly spoke about the incorrect basis for the decision, and how it  was precariously sitting atop a Constitutional house of cards.  It was bound to fall at some point.

Maybe "people like this" should have heeded her warnings and understand now that the current members of the court were in agreement with RGB -- defender of women's rights ... assuming she was talking about real women, not whatever we see now.

https://www.newsweek.com/ruth-bader-ginsburg-roe-wade-abortion-scotus-1702948
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #101 on: July 13, 2022, 10:08:38 PM »
No.

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Ok, fair enough. But if that is the case, how can you accuse those on the left, the anti-trumpers of being influenced by their bias and emotion? Certainly they think they are seeing the "truth" as much as you are convinced you are seeing the truth.

Nearly every argument we make about them, I see them make back at us just in a different wrapping. What if, sometimes, we have it wrong? I think it only reasonable and fair for us to ask this of ourselves since we want them to do the same.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #102 on: July 13, 2022, 10:11:40 PM »
A lack of compassion would be bad enough, but I think they actually look forward to mass shooting events as an opportunity to parade their virtue and attack anyone who disagrees with them.


Sorry but I think I you couldn't be more wrong on this. I will leave it at that.

drck1000

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #103 on: July 13, 2022, 10:24:40 PM »
A lack of compassion would be bad enough, but I think they actually look forward to mass shooting events as an opportunity to parade their virtue and attack anyone who disagrees with them.

Have you seen what's on Tik-tok? Humanity is in a pretty dark place right now.
Nah. Can’t think of anyone like that *cough* David Hogg *cough*

bass monkey

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #104 on: July 14, 2022, 03:06:09 PM »
Ok, fair enough. But if that is the case, how can you accuse those on the left, the anti-trumpers of being influenced by their bias and emotion? Certainly they think they are seeing the "truth" as much as you are convinced you are seeing the truth.

Nearly every argument we make about them, I see them make back at us just in a different wrapping. What if, sometimes, we have it wrong? I think it only reasonable and fair for us to ask this of ourselves since we want them to do the same.

It's not about being emotional or not.

It's about how much emotion,  logic,  common sense,  experience,  life,  etc you add in or don't,  to the decision/ conversation/ choice, whatever.

Clearly you'll feel some kind of way,  but after you take some time,  get level headed,  think things through,  etc. You can make a decision with logic,  reason,  everything else. 

That's why there are such epic melt downs when emotion meets logic

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #105 on: July 19, 2022, 08:45:12 PM »
It's not about being emotional or not.

It's about how much emotion,  logic,  common sense,  experience,  life,  etc you add in or don't,  to the decision/ conversation/ choice, whatever.

Clearly you'll feel some kind of way,  but after you take some time,  get level headed,  think things through,  etc. You can make a decision with logic,  reason,  everything else. 

That's why there are such epic melt downs when emotion meets logic

Not disagreeing with anything you are saying. It is one of the reasons I will trust a calm person making an argument over an emotional one.

However I have noticed that sometimes both sides will will use logic, common sense, etc. but arrive at differing conclusions.