SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!! (Read 15981 times)

groveler

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2022, 07:07:32 PM »
2nd Amendment is NOT a Second Class "RIGHT"!  We the People should not need to prove the need to exercise that RIGHT!!
Since when have Hawaiian Democrats or Republicans for that matter
given a shit about your "rights"?
I hope every body here applies for a concealed carry permit tomorrow.
And contacts their police commissions if there is not a quick response.
 :grrr:

robtmc

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2022, 07:34:03 PM »
The man came through for us and the Constitiution.

DEROS

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2022, 07:53:39 PM »
I just finished my letter to my HPD police chief
for conceal carry per 134-9.
I also mention 18 US Code section 242.
It goes in the mail tomorrow.
SCOTUS just gave us a hammer to slam them with.
 :thumbsup:

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I believe there needs to be an organized day when a large group submits a Carry Conceal request to HPD.  When HPD denies, then the group files for a suit.  HPD or the State of Hawaii doesn't need to change anything until someone legally challenges the procedure.

WTF?Shane

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2022, 10:22:09 PM »
It begins

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/06/24/following-high-courts-decision-gun-owners-line-up-outside-hpd-permits-carry-weapons/

Last line in the article:

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“Unfortunately, you know, it’s like, the status quo has served us very well. And I’m afraid in this respect, we’re going to become more like continental states where murder gun murder rates are higher.”

RSN172

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2022, 10:26:08 PM »
The man came through for us and the Constitiution.
The one you really need to thank is Donald Trump.
Happily living in Puna

stangzilla

Brystont1

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2022, 07:58:08 AM »
Cope harder Mrs. Rhoads

QUIETShooter

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2022, 07:58:22 AM »
good thing I took care of my business at HPD already.  I can imagine the wait in the line now

And I'll bet they (HPD) will take their damn time.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

RSN172

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2022, 09:04:01 AM »
good thing I took care of my business at HPD already.  I can imagine the wait in the line now
I'm on the BI, so don't know how it is here, but I'm in no rush. What I wonder about is if the permits will be county specific rather than statewide.  Knowing the pricks in government,  I am sure they will make it county specific.
Happily living in Puna

Rhed

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2022, 09:47:46 AM »
So do we still need to fill out a reason on the form why we wanna carry?

Rocky

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« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2022, 09:48:07 AM »
https://www.honolulupd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/LTC2018Application.pdf
"Provide handwritten or typed reasons for License to Carry Concealed"
Cuz SCOTUS confirmed it  was my right.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

stangzilla

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2022, 10:20:56 AM »
I think we still need to wait until the Hawaii ruling is done, then Hawaii needs to set up a system to which they will approve ccw permits
until that happens the ccw permits will be the same
but I'm not a lawyer, so don't quote me

changemyoil66

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2022, 11:23:15 AM »
I think we still need to wait until the Hawaii ruling is done, then Hawaii needs to set up a system to which they will approve ccw permits
until that happens the ccw permits will be the same
but I'm not a lawyer, so don't quote me

^^^This,  Or if the chief was good, he could just approve all and site the ruling.

So if he still denies them, then we know he is not following the ruling and thus enforcing unconstitutional laws since he has the sole discretion. Which means he will support and act on other unconstitutional laws.

If he states he needs to wait for the law to change, is not a reason. Again, he has the sole discretion to approve or deny since it already states "may issue".

QUIETShooter

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2022, 11:58:04 AM »
I'm on the BI, so don't know how it is here, but I'm in no rush. What I wonder about is if the permits will be county specific rather than statewide.  Knowing the pricks in government,  I am sure they will make it county specific.

Wouldn't surprise me at all.  I also wouldn't be surprised "they" are in a huddle right now, figuring out the hardest, most frustrating, and ridiculous laws they can attach to this new SCOTUS ruling so they can maintain their "status quo" as Rhoades so lovingly lamented.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

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« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2022, 11:58:30 AM »
So do we still need to fill out a reason on the form why we wanna carry?

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

changemyoil66

Re: SUPREME COURT HAS JUST STRUCK DOWN NEW YORK CARRY LAW!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2022, 12:46:45 PM »
Check out Tulsi's IG post. She informally asked a high level HPD officer if she would be approved for CCW. She was told no. She stated that she was able to get security protection until the guy who threatened to cut her head off was caught.  She mentions that others are not as lucky, which is why the SCOTUS ruling is important.

I do like Tulsi, but 1 thing I don't like is she signed on for the AWB annual DC ban bill.

Waverider82

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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2022, 01:03:01 PM »
So do we still need to fill out a reason on the form why we wanna carry?

I just put "pursuant to US Second Amendment and Article 1 Section 17 of The Constitution of the State of Hawaii."

I'm hoping that it's just as easy as dropping off the thing at HPD. 

Flapp_Jackson

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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2022, 01:07:09 PM »
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Don't forget to include the 14th Amendment, too.

"Because the State of New York issues public-carry licenses only when an applicant demonstrates a special need for self-defense, we conclude that the State's licensing regime violates the Constitution."

"We too agree, and now hold, consistent with Heller and McDonald, that the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's right to carry a hand- gun for self-defense outside the home."

--Justice Clarence Thomas
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw