I just put "pursuant to US Second Amendment and Article 1 Section 17 of The Constitution of the State of Hawaii."

I'm hoping that it's just as easy as dropping off the thing at HPD.

Yup, simple as just drop it off.
I've done it many times. 

Don't forget to include the 14th Amendment, too.

"Because the State of New York issues public-carry licenses only when an applicant demonstrates a special need for self-defense, we conclude that the State's licensing regime violates the Constitution."

"We too agree, and now hold, consistent with Heller and McDonald, that the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's right to carry a hand- gun for self-defense outside the home."

--Justice Clarence Thomas

Since when are arms only hand guns ?
(#IRant4drk1K)

Since when are arms only hand guns ?
(#IRant4drk1K)

The ruling yesterday was about concealed carry.  So, the ruling and opinions are specific to handguns. 


Supreme Court strikes down New York's handgun law
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/new-york-gun-law-supreme-court-decision/index.html

Justice Alito basically applied the exact same logic almost everyone on this forum has posted ad nauseam with regards to the notion that somehow restricting law abiding citizens from carrying for self defense will magically stop a psychopath, career criminal or gang member from using guns illegally.  He also points out how the anti-gunners love to cite the 60K gun deaths stat when making arguments, but they fail to explain how their agenda will reduce the number of suicides which comprise 60% of that gun-death total.

Reading his opinion points was like reading the logical points made on here.  The best point was how he said that laws do not deter crime (something one forum member refuses to believe).  The NY law that restricts concealed carry did not stop the Buffalo Market mass shooting.  Nor did it stop the ever rising number of gun related crimes New York is experiencing.  Believing gun laws stop crimes from happening is naive and unsupported by history.

This article and Alito's remarks are well worth the read.

Alito Takes a Blow Torch to Liberal Justices' Dissent

The arguments made by the dissenting justices were wildly irrelevant from the issue of
constitutionality and current law, prompting Justice Samuel Alito to file a separate,
concurring opinion destroying their claims. He also took issue with their ignorance and
arrogance surrounding the facts of lawful gun ownership vs. criminality.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/06/23/alito-takes-a-blow-torch-to-liberal-justices-opinion-on-latest-gun-case-n2609218

Just wondering to those who turned in their license to carry paperwork, what did you put for the "reason"?

Yup, simple as just drop it off.
I've done it many times. 

You bein serious? The rofl emoji suggests so. Guess i have to find out myself.

You bein serious? The rofl emoji suggests so. Guess i have to find out myself.

I think he's laughing because he should not have had to apply "many times."  Once should have been enough had the law not given police chiefs the power to deny them for no valid reason.

If you actually get approval, you'll then have to satisfy the requirements, like proof of training, background check, fingerprinting, etc.

Few have ever made it that far, so don't be surprised if HPD isn't able to complete the application process and issue a license anytime soon.

Just wondering to those who turned in their license to carry paperwork, what did you put for the "reason"?

I did apply several years ago
when I asked the cop behind the glass for a ccw application, his reply was, "why you going apply for.  you know you going get denied anyways."
so I doubt it ever gets to the chief at all.  they just print out the generic denial letter, stamp the cheif's signature, and presto......they checked the boxes and you are officially denied
it's common knowledge that no common citizen gets approved for ccw, no matter what the reason is
on the news yesterday they said in the past 24 years, 4 people have been approved for ccw.  who these people are is a mystery.  maybe its some politician or their wife, or somebody that knows somebody.  but its nobody that we know

I was looking at the application.  https://www.honolulupd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/LTC2018Application.pdf

Instead of writing out reasons you may fear injury to your person or property, could you just staple the full SCOTUS brief to the application?
Wonder what they would say to a 3 foot pile of applications.

AD, is there a short form if you renew? I dont suppose that has been an issue yet.  One year seems to be short at best.

I did apply several years ago
when I asked the cop behind the glass for a ccw application, his reply was, "why you going apply for.  you know you going get denied anyways."
so I doubt it ever gets to the chief at all.  they just print out the generic denial letter, stamp the cheif's signature, and presto......they checked the boxes and you are officially denied
it's common knowledge that no common citizen gets approved for ccw, no matter what the reason is
on the news yesterday they said in the past 24 years, 4 people have been approved for ccw.  who these people are is a mystery.  maybe its some politician or their wife, or somebody that knows somebody.  but its nobody that we know

Based on the text of the SCOTUS ruling, the correct response to "Justification" or "Reason" should be:

N/A

Currently the requirements ARE:

     (1)  Be qualified to use the firearm in a safe manner;

     (2)  Appear to be a suitable person to be so licensed;

     (3)  Not be prohibited under section 134-7 from the ownership or possession of a firearm; and

     (4)  Not have been adjudged insane or not appear to be mentally deranged.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0009.htm   




Im thinking, once the Hawaii case is resolved, they will have to issue permits on a "shall issue" basis, until our legislature has time to pass more onerous and stringent requirements and fees. (which you KNOW they are scrambling to do right now)
Reason being, if you are legally able to acquire a handgun, you are already eligible to be issued a  carry license.

(of course , my opinion and IANAL)

CA AG issues no longer requires good cause. Efd immediately.

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CA AG issues no longer requires good cause. Efd immediately.

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Wow, CA concedes? Amazing.....

Some good news. I am glad firearm rights overall are being recognized.

You bein serious? The rofl emoji suggests so. Guess i have to find out myself.

   Unfortunately, I was serious.
Used to apply after every additional training course just to add to the list.
Though I may have taken more classes the past couple of years, I haven't (re-)applied for Hawaii CCW.

   I became a Utah CFP Instructor so they could carry in all of Utah's reciprocity states and get some folks that cert in the event it became a requirement for when Hawaii did legalize CCW.
Knew it would happen sooner or later but this is earlier than I expected ! 

Not really. Most rational people aren't one issue voters.

Leftists are not rational.

Liberalism is a mentai illness.

Violence as a response to a Supreme Court ruling is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to this Democracy.  The Judiciary is not supposed to bend to the will of ANY group.  They apply the Constitution and existing law.  Roe v Wade was bad law when it was decided in 1973.  The Left has pushed the envelope well beyond "safe, legal and rare."  The decision is just the pendulum swinging back toward "rational."

All

Im just going to "wait".  Im wondering if the process is "not really worked out for HPD".

or

They really "wont" do anything till the State AG tells um "please accept."  Untill then, still deny?

Im kind of curious if they will allow all who have "out of state" CCW to accept those.

I have a feeling they will "make up" their rules for us all to "jump" thru.

Oh boy!  Here we go...

Have a GREAT DAY!

Im kind of curious if they will allow all who have "out of state" CCW to accept those.

There is no way Hawaii will accept any out of state permits. What they will do is make it as difficult as possible to obtain one.  I was not 100% thrilled with the decision written by Clarence Thomas.   I was hoping for national constitutional carry or at the very least, national reciprocity where even a non resident out of state permit must be honored.   I would guess there are at least a few thousand of us already holding those.

There could be a slim chance of reciprocity with some states with higher training requirements, only because of the time and resources needed by the police.  I estimate in Honolulu there would be 80 to 160 requests for CCW per day which the police wouldn't be able to process.

But reciprocity would need to be passed in a law and go through Karl Rhoads.  So not counting on it.