Is being forced to show your “qualified” consistent with the text, history, and tradition of the 2A? I think not.

The right to keep and bear Arms.


PERIOD.

This is what’s coming

I got my ‘we still stalling your permit at this time’ letter from the chief today.

ADA comes into play if a blind person is denied.

An appropriate level of training should be the following: Not a felon. That's it.

To exercise a right, one doesn't need to show how good you are with it.  I mean look at the anti 2a protest arguments. If 1 has to show proficiency, then most of them would not be able to protest.

That would be interesting to see a blind person apply for CCW. There was a case in Hawaii where a legally blind person shot a home intruder. Would be hard to justify force for someone completely blind.

That would be interesting to see a blind person apply for CCW. There was a case in Hawaii where a legally blind person shot a home intruder. Would be hard to justify force for someone completely blind.

You really should learn to use Web Search Engines.  From 2014:

Carey Mcwilliams, 1st Totally Blind Person
In The USA To Acquire A Carry Permit

https://www.ammoland.com/2014/06/carey-mcwilliams-the-1st-totally-blind-person-in-the-usa-to-acquire-a-carry-permit/

They guy’s name is literally Carey

You really should learn to use Web Search Engines.  From 2014:

Carey Mcwilliams, 1st Totally Blind Person
In The USA To Acquire A Carry Permit

https://www.ammoland.com/2014/06/carey-mcwilliams-the-1st-totally-blind-person-in-the-usa-to-acquire-a-carry-permit/

 

Logan was on the radio and asked if his approving CCW's by the end of August which he stated multiple times is still accurate.  He said no. He said he cannot just change the requirements, there needs to be a public hearing, which will probably happen in Sept. So there is now no ETA on approvals. He did say that those who already applied will not have to reapply, but just add what ever is required. He also stated that he has not reviewed any apps.  As of yesterday he said there are 333 CCW applications.

So goal post moving at it's finest. This will go down as the great scewjob of 2022.  F

First Logan said he needs to wait for clarification. Then the AG completed this.
Then he said he needs to get all the other counties on the same page (Big Island already posted their CCW requirements via their Hawaii PD website)
Then he said he plans on approving at latest end of Aug (2 months after SCOTUS ruling and 6 weeks after AG memo about good moral character and exceptional circumstance)
Then comes end of Aug and he now says a public hearing needs to be held about the requirements.

I'll bet after this hearing, there will be additional hearing s and committees. And then he will state awaiting on Young being re-ruled.  Basically a stall tactic until the next legislative session, which I expect CA/NY type of law to be pushed thru.

So I state again, CORRUPTION!!!!!

Logan was on the radio and asked if his approving CCW's by the end of August which he stated multiple times is still accurate.  He said no. He said he cannot just change the requirements, there needs to be a public hearing, which will probably happen in Sept. So there is now no ETA on approvals. He did say that those who already applied will not have to reapply, but just add what ever is required. He also stated that he has not reviewed any apps.  As of yesterday he said there are 333 CCW applications.

So goal post moving at it's finest. This will go down as the great scewjob of 2022.  F

First Logan said he needs to wait for clarification. Then the AG completed this.
Then he said he needs to get all the other counties on the same page (Big Island already posted their CCW requirements via their Hawaii PD website)
Then he said he plans on approving at latest end of Aug (2 months after SCOTUS ruling and 6 weeks after AG memo about good moral character and exceptional circumstance)
Then comes end of Aug and he now says a public hearing needs to be held about the requirements.

I'll bet after this hearing, there will be additional hearing s and committees. And then he will state awaiting on Young being re-ruled.  Basically a stall tactic until the next legislative session, which I expect CA/NY type of law to be pushed thru.

So I state again, CORRUPTION!!!!!

This is complete bullsh@t.

The law is already on the books and there is no “rule making” required or needed.

Can the guy not be sued already?

He stalling for the legislative session, where they can place ridiculous restrictions of “sensitive places” where it will be impossible to carry anywhere. Then it’ll be another decade plus to fight them in courts.

Right now I think it’s a slam dunk win. If he is ordered to issue permits, and the blood doesn’t run in the streets, we have a fighting chance of opposing draconian restrictions in the next legislative session.

Can the guy not be sued already?

$$$ will be needed because the suit would be moot as soon as HI changes the law, even if years later.  Example is the Taser and Young vs. HI cases.

$$$ will be needed because the suit would be moot as soon as HI changes the law, even if years later.  Example is the Taser and Young vs. HI cases.

What’s the point of even fighting them then. Oh well.

I wish SCOTUS would have ruled favorably in Young vs. Hawaii, instead of remanding it back to the 9th Circuit who in turn kicked it further down the road.

Oh well, wishing don't mean sh*t now.

Concealed carry approved for one on Maui so far. 

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/maui-issues-first-concealed-carry-permit/?utm_source=khon_app&utm_medium=social&utm_content=share-link

Concealed carry approved for one on Maui so far. 

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/maui-issues-first-concealed-carry-permit/?utm_source=khon_app&utm_medium=social&utm_content=share-link

Who’s cousin is dis?

Concealed carry approved for one on Maui so far. 

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/maui-issues-first-concealed-carry-permit/?utm_source=khon_app&utm_medium=social&utm_content=share-link

This makes a lawsuit even easier to win for Honolulu. What is the REAL hang up? Why are out civil rights being violated? Can’t use the arbitrary denial as an excuse anymore.

Maui has this in their requirements

Firearms proficiency tests shall be taken with the firearm intended to be carried, and must be taken within 90 days of submitting your application. The test must be administered by a state-certified or National Rifle Association firearms instructor of the applicant’s choosing (attach instructor certification). Signed test results must include shooting scores. A pass/fail test result without scores is not sufficient.


What is the test?  Why doesn’t Honolulu or other counties have this?  Where in the freaking current law does this testing requirement exist?

Start petition for release of firearm qualifying scores for EVERYONE in the state. See how emboldened some Chiefs are then…

Maui has this in their requirements

Firearms proficiency tests shall be taken with the firearm intended to be carried, and must be taken within 90 days of submitting your application. The test must be administered by a state-certified or National Rifle Association firearms instructor of the applicant’s choosing (attach instructor certification). Signed test results must include shooting scores. A pass/fail test result without scores is not sufficient.


What is the test?  Why doesn’t Honolulu or other counties have this?  Where in the freaking current law does this testing requirement exist?

Looks like they are making things up as they go along.