CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU) (Read 17726 times)

pacwire

CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« on: July 12, 2022, 12:56:12 PM »
All:  Got my passport pictures (2)
Filled out my Application to Carry an OPEN/CONCEALED Firearm form

Have my Affidavit (Firearms Education Course
Have a copy of the Firearms Permit showing the CCW gun Licensed

do i need the Medical Information Waiver and PHI Forms also?

aloha!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2022, 01:55:23 PM »
All:  Got my passport pictures (2)
Filled out my Application to Carry an OPEN/CONCEALED Firearm form

Have my Affidavit (Firearms Education Course
Have a copy of the Firearms Permit showing the CCW gun Licensed

do i need the Medical Information Waiver and PHI Forms also?

aloha!

From what I read on here, they'll have you fill out a Permit Application to Acquire, not for a firearm, but to renew the background check and medical review.  They should have you sign a medical records waiver, too.

I might be totally wrong, but that's what I think I saw.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

pacwire

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2022, 01:59:24 PM »
OK i will fill that out and be prepared to submit tomorrow   Aloha!

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2022, 02:02:23 PM »
From what I read on here, they'll have you fill out a Permit Application to Acquire, not for a firearm, but to renew the background check and medical review.  They should have you sign a medical records waiver, too.

I might be totally wrong, but that's what I think I saw.

You’re correct, Flapp
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asdfjkl

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2022, 04:41:36 PM »
Today I needed the following:
• CCW permit app
• HARD COPY of the handgun you will be carrying (if you want to have options to carry you’ll need to fill out a separate CCW app for EACH handgun plus a hard copy of the registration for each). FYI they will be keeping that copy as part of your “packet”
• Firearm Application/Questionaire
• Medical Information Waiver
• Mental Health Waiver
• (2) Passport photos (preferably in an envelope of some sort)

You can pre fill all the forms from online and wait to sign them until directed at the window

changemyoil66

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2022, 05:42:29 PM »


Today I needed the following:
• CCW permit app
• HARD COPY of the handgun you will be carrying (if you want to have options to carry you’ll need to fill out a separate CCW app for EACH handgun plus a hard copy of the registration for each). FYI they will be keeping that copy as part of your “packet”
• Firearm Application/Questionaire
• Medical Information Waiver
• Mental Health Waiver
• (2) Passport photos (preferably in an envelope of some sort)

You can pre fill all the forms from online and wait to sign them until directed at the window

If they told u abiut needing the reg, they are making stuff up again. Their online steps doesnt say need to supply proof of reg.

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asdfjkl

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2022, 07:18:19 PM »

If they told u abiut needing the reg, they are making stuff up again. Their online steps doesnt say need to supply proof of reg.

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Yup, I mentioned that and the officer told me that I need to read the instructions better so I showed them on my phone what the website requirements are and the officer said to come back when I have the hard copies of my registrations…so I went next door to ask them for copies and came back lol.

The vibe we got today was that they’re not happy about the additional workload from CCW applications and they’re going to take it out on us.

zippz

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2022, 07:35:01 PM »
The vibe we got today was that they’re not happy about the additional workload from CCW applications and they’re going to take it out on us.

I estimate 20,000 to 40,000 people will apply for carry annually in Honolulu, 160 per day.  Then multiply by the number of handguns per person and applying for both ccw and open.  They should be very not happy.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2022, 09:25:03 PM »
I estimate 20,000 to 40,000 people will apply for carry annually in Honolulu, 160 per day.  Then multiply by the number of handguns per person and applying for both ccw and open.  They should be very not happy.

Add to that the obvious additional workload because of the short period of time the license is valid:

Quote
Unless renewed, the license shall expire one year from the date of issue.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/hrs0134/HRS_0134-0009.htm
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

RSN172

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2022, 02:56:16 AM »
Add to that the obvious additional workload because of the short period of time the license is valid:
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/hrs0134/HRS_0134-0009.htm
Yeah, and Rhoads and Lee want to reduce it to 6 months to double the workload.
Happily living in Puna

QUIETShooter

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2022, 06:17:10 AM »
Typical big government bureaucratic intervention.

And this done on purpose to discourage, deny, and indescreetly restrict carry licenses.

Just like all the other laws and bullsh*t hoops we had to jump through.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2022, 01:22:22 PM »
With such a short period before needing to renew a carry license, the tyrants of the state hope to start catching people armed while having an expired license.

That way they can start charging us with felonies and take away our 2A rights completely.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

AmbuBadger

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2022, 11:13:04 PM »
Copy & pasta from the other thread I replied to.

I went today, had to renew my long gun permit too. I printed everything out from online and brought it in, here's what I brought for the CCW:

1) 2 x passport photos, $15 from Wong's in Chinatown on Hotel (across old Love's Thrift Shop/new Daiso). He prefers cash.
2) Permit to acquire & questionnaire, filled out everything but did not sign.
3) Medical information waiver, again, filled out but not signed.
4) Protected Health Info disclosure, also unsigned. You cannot fill this out on your computer, gotta print it out first.
5) Photocopy of my handgun license for the particular piece I wanted to carry.
6) My actual handgun safety class affidavit; they made a copy, so I think they'll accept that, but bring the original to verify.
7) My letter stating my reason for wanting CCW rights. I mentioned my training, occupation, abstaining from drugs/alcohol, and having no health conditions that would prohibit me from carrying and operating a firearm safely.

I got there at 1510 with five guys in front of me, nobody came after me, and I was done by 1555. I kept the passport photos in the little Ziploc from Wong's, the officer processing my paperwork seemed happy with that. The only ID I needed was my HSDL.It didn't seem like a big deal to this officer whether I had signed the papers from online in advance or not, but I made sure not to. Whoever you get may or may not care, you know how they are. As for the CCW application, it's similar to the Permit to Acquire, you'll be filling out the same stuff like your info, workplace, how fat you are, how short you are, etc. Ethnicity is a short line, so don't bother putting everything your 23 & Me said you are. I know some of you said the website didn't require all that, but things went smoothly with the route I took. Also, I opted to pick up my papers versus email, they said they're backlogged and pickup in person would be ready on time but not to expect to see the email on the first available day. Hope this helps.

Rhed

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2022, 06:58:19 AM »
So since one must do a background check again for ccw, would it be better to just apply for a PTA at the same time applying for a ccw? And purchase another handgun. Or ccw must be a separate process?

Brystont1

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2022, 07:51:04 AM »
What is the handgun permit? Are you guys referring to the registration paper they give you after you register? I thought HPD takes the PTA after you bring the gun in for inspection.

stangzilla

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2022, 08:07:38 AM »
I'm at HPD registering pistol bc its been almost 1 month since I registered online and no email yet
while I'm there I ask a question to one of the cops, "do I need to fill out PTA forms and health forms when applying for ccw?"
cops reply, "whatever is on the checklist is what we need."
me, "so we don't need to bring those PTA and health forms?"  bc its not on the CCW checklist
cop, "whatever is on the checklist is what we need."

either the cop doesn't know what is required paperwork, or doesn't care, or is trying to mess with me by just repeating what was said the first time.  either way that's the wrong info.  never changes

from HPD website:
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License to Carry Concealed
Application Instructions
1. Must have a handgun registered in Hawaii at the time of your application
2. Two passport photos
3. Fill out the application in person with government issued identification
4. If born outside of the United States, USA Passport, USA Citizenship documents,
or
USA Permanent Resident Card
5. Provide handwritten or typed reasons for License to Carry Concealed
6. Proof of completion of a Hunter Education Course or other Firearms Safety or
Training Course described by Section 134-2(g), Hawaii Revised Statutes

changemyoil66

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2022, 09:11:33 AM »
So since one must do a background check again for ccw, would it be better to just apply for a PTA at the same time applying for a ccw? And purchase another handgun. Or ccw must be a separate process?

It's an entire diff process and treated separatly, even though some of the paperwork is the same. Since you're already there, might as well get the long gun permit.  Because if u also got a pistol PTA, then you would have to buy a pistol prior to going.  Unless you already had that planned, then go for it. Make the most out of the trip to HPD IMO.

London808

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2022, 09:12:39 AM »

I was there this morning and they made the guy fill out all 3 of the permit forms.

They are also providing me with 100 copies of each everyday I go in a It’s needed. I’m Getting 700 pages a day from them.

I'm at HPD registering pistol bc its been almost 1 month since I registered online and no email yet
while I'm there I ask a question to one of the cops, "do I need to fill out PTA forms and health forms when applying for ccw?"
cops reply, "whatever is on the checklist is what we need."
me, "so we don't need to bring those PTA and health forms?"  bc its not on the CCW checklist
cop, "whatever is on the checklist is what we need."

either the cop doesn't know what is required paperwork, or doesn't care, or is trying to mess with me by just repeating what was said the first time.  either way that's the wrong info.  never changes

from HPD website:
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

Rhed

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2022, 09:52:05 AM »
It's an entire diff process and treated separatly, even though some of the paperwork is the same. Since you're already there, might as well get the long gun permit.  Because if u also got a pistol PTA, then you would have to buy a pistol prior to going.  Unless you already had that planned, then go for it. Make the most out of the trip to HPD IMO.
I guess apply for a ccw for one of my pistols I already have. Less confusion. I just thought like “kill two birds with one stone” kind. Less trips. My Sigs are older like back in the early 90’s. Wanted to get something newer. My long gun permit still valid till the end of the year.

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2022, 10:15:52 AM »
There’s a lot of people here saying the same thing but different. Yes, you need what is exactly on the list for CCW/ Open Carry, but you will also need ALL paperwork and information as if you are applying for a pistol again.

They will make you fill out the “PTA” paperwork, but it will be written with “CCW” on the top. They will also make toy sign and fill out all the mental health and medical info waivers. You will need to provide a hard copy of your currently registered handgun registration.

If you want to buy a new handgun and apply for CCW, apply for the Pistol PTA first and once you have the new handgun, register it and then go fill out the CCW paperwork. Bring everything you have because one small detail left out you didn’t know of, they will tell you to come back with it.

Point is:
1. have currently registered handgun in HI
2. have/ bring all your required docs/ pictures/ affidavits
3. Go in person with said paperwork and apply
4. Wait for either an update or contact to either approve/ modify your permit
5. Pick up permit with $10 per permit once we can do so
 
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