CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU) (Read 20339 times)

nickelzismoney

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2022, 06:09:25 PM »
Roger that.  I forgot and got confused.

I remember hearing some of the mainland ccw permit applications required the fee up front.  They would go to their scheduled appointment, submit the completed app, get fingerprinted and pay $50 or whatever the fee happens to be up front.

From what I understand, my parents have both SC and GA permits and they have to pay ahead of time, but only because the state require(d) they took a qualifying exam and shoot (poor GA Const. Carry) I believe
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changemyoil66

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #61 on: July 23, 2022, 07:49:21 PM »
They already have a “process” in place. They are blatantly opposing the SCOTUS ruling, and the State AG’s opinion on the matter is clear.
This is denial of everyone’s civil rights.


Just put in an application, on the principle of the matter.

IMO

Next legislative session is going to be blood boiling to watch.
Elections matter, this is one that matters a lot for us 2a people.
Everyone here better submit testimony.

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AmbuBadger

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2022, 12:17:35 PM »
When the wife and I applied, they told her that she had to pay for Rap Back because they didn't have it on file, despite us both getting it together years ago and me transferring a pistol to her after that went through. They said they couldn't process it without at least a receipt, and wanted a marriage certificate since her last name was different. Fortunately, she had the receipt-- from 2016, any married man here knows nobody holds on to something like a wife! She took a pic and emailed it to the officer who said they'll accept it. We didn't know about Rap Back when we applied so we couldn't contest them about requiring it, but I guess we'll find out come August 1st.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #63 on: July 24, 2022, 01:29:41 PM »
When the wife and I applied, they told her that she had to pay for Rap Back because they didn't have it on file, despite us both getting it together years ago and me transferring a pistol to her after that went through. They said they couldn't process it without at least a receipt, and wanted a marriage certificate since her last name was different. Fortunately, she had the receipt-- from 2016, any married man here knows nobody holds on to something like a wife! She took a pic and emailed it to the officer who said they'll accept it. We didn't know about Rap Back when we applied so we couldn't contest them about requiring it, but I guess we'll find out come August 1st.

Maybe the PD could just look up her name in the list of gun owners actually enrolled in RAPBACK to verify she's there.

Oh, wait!  That won't work, since nobody who paid is enrolled!   :crazy:
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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QUIETShooter

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #64 on: July 24, 2022, 02:39:39 PM »
Maybe the PD could just look up her name in the list of gun owners actually enrolled in RAPBACK to verify she's there.

Oh, wait!  That won't work, since nobody who paid is enrolled!   :crazy:

Damn, what did they do with all that money. :grrr:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2022, 03:00:55 PM »
Damn, what did they do with all that money. :grrr:

Someone on the forum might be able to answer that:

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HIFICO Vs FBI

While attempting to understand how the state of Hawaii was using Rapback
HIFICO was forced to file a lawsuit against the FBI to get them to release
information under FOIA.

While attempting to understand how the state of Hawaii was using Rapback
HIFICO was forced to file a lawsuit against the FBI to get them to release
information under FOIA.

STATUS: WON. The data requested was provided by the FBI.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

6716J

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2022, 08:05:28 AM »
Damn, what did they do with all that money. :grrr:

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10mmBestmm

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2022, 08:47:23 AM »
Maybe the PD could just look up her name in the list of gun owners actually enrolled in RAPBACK to verify she's there.

Oh, wait!  That won't work, since nobody who paid is enrolled!   :crazy:

I thought your comment about nobody being enrolled in rapback was made in jest because when my gf and I both went in to apply for CCW, she got flagged for no rapback (I didn't get flagged since I did mine a couple of years ago).

So its possible we are enrolled or maybe they have a database tracker of people who paid for rapback but are not enrolled (because nobody is enrolled).
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10mmBestmm

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2022, 09:21:48 AM »
When the wife and I applied, they told her that she had to pay for Rap Back because they didn't have it on file, despite us both getting it together years ago and me transferring a pistol to her after that went through. They said they couldn't process it without at least a receipt, and wanted a marriage certificate since her last name was different. Fortunately, she had the receipt-- from 2016, any married man here knows nobody holds on to something like a wife! She took a pic and emailed it to the officer who said they'll accept it. We didn't know about Rap Back when we applied so we couldn't contest them about requiring it, but I guess we'll find out come August 1st.

You would think they would have other methods to verify rapback payment.

From my foggy recollection, my original one time charge and fingerprinting required the old ink pad and paper. Then rapback was implemented and required a second one time charge and fingerprinting. This time they started using a modern fingerprint scanner. No messy fingers.

They should have noticed her fingerprints were scanned in their system with date completed  (thus proving she paid for rapback).

Unless the fingerprint scanner was already deployed and in use pre rapback.
"I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop." - Some guy on Youtube

macsak

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #69 on: July 28, 2022, 11:02:36 AM »
digital fingerprints were started with rapback...

You would think they would have other methods to verify rapback payment.

From my foggy recollection, my original one time charge and fingerprinting required the old ink pad and paper. Then rapback was implemented and required a second one time charge and fingerprinting. This time they started using a modern fingerprint scanner. No messy fingers.

They should have noticed her fingerprints were scanned in their system with date completed  (thus proving she paid for rapback).

Unless the fingerprint scanner was already deployed and in use pre rapback.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2022, 11:19:52 AM »
You would think they would have other methods to verify rapback payment.

From my foggy recollection, my original one time charge and fingerprinting required the old ink pad and paper. Then rapback was implemented and required a second one time charge and fingerprinting. This time they started using a modern fingerprint scanner. No messy fingers.

They should have noticed her fingerprints were scanned in their system with date completed  (thus proving she paid for rapback).

Unless the fingerprint scanner was already deployed and in use pre rapback.

I seem to remember getting the inked version of fingerprinting, but watched as some in line at the firearms section were taken into the doorway of the records section and had their fingerprints scanned.  I assumed that was for out of state registrations, but it might be something else.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Stack_Xchange

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2022, 05:01:25 PM »
I seem to remember getting the inked version of fingerprinting, but watched as some in line at the firearms section were taken into the doorway of the records section and had their fingerprints scanned.  I assumed that was for out of state registrations, but it might be something else.

Last time I had ink fingerprinting was more than 10 years ago on a fingerprint card and I had to do them myself at the station. That was also for something not related to firearms registration or a crime. Every time since, it was laser fingerprinting.

AmbuBadger

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #72 on: August 11, 2022, 01:33:16 PM »
Well, it doesn't matter as we both got the same letter telling us everything is on hold until they look into the matter a little more, i.e., "we need time to BS something that'll fly under the radar for HIFCo's lawyers."

nalo_b

Re: CCW Form: What else is needed (OAHU)
« Reply #73 on: August 11, 2022, 06:39:22 PM »
Are they denying applications  now? Was gonna apply Monday after I register

Nvm just read things are on hold...gonna apply Monday