We’re getting closer to CCW (Read 4127 times)

nickelzismoney

We’re getting closer to CCW
« on: July 15, 2022, 11:48:53 PM »
We appear to be getting closer and closer to our permits being granted. Small steps, but steps none the less. Occasionally checking every few days, I decided to check due to boredom — HPD has updated their page for CCW and HRS 134-9: AG’s Opinion. I’ll attach them below.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2022, 12:02:36 AM by nickelzismoney »
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

groveler

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2022, 05:22:37 AM »
You must have a mouse in your pocket.
I called on my Permit.  I'm Big Island,
County Hawaii
They claim that my permit is stalled because the  permit package is being revised.
That package will be available from the state AG website soon.
in the last 22 year there has never been a CCW permit package in Hawaii county.

AND why is the state AG issuing licenses when HRS 134-9 says it is the county
police chief that are responsible.
This is simple, they don't have a clue.
This is not wise;
Gett a lawyer on speed dial
Start conceal carrying.
Sue the county for 1 billion dollars.
I'm starting on Monday.
 :thumbsup:
Fuck them.
 :shaka:

nickelzismoney

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2022, 06:09:50 AM »
You must have a mouse in your pocket.
I called on my Permit.  I'm Big Island,
County Hawaii
They claim that my permit is stalled because the  permit package is being revised.
That package will be available from the state AG website soon.
in the last 22 year there has never been a CCW permit package in Hawaii county.

AND why is the state AG issuing licenses when HRS 134-9 says it is the county
police chief that are responsible.
This is simple, they don't have a clue.
This is not wise;
Gett a lawyer on speed dial
Start conceal carrying.
Sue the county for 1 billion dollars.
I'm starting on Monday.
 :thumbsup:
Fuck them.
 :shaka:

I’m glad your local PD doesn’t feel the need to give you the run around or shut you up by insisting they know nothing or beat around the bush. Honolulu Police Department does not share the same sentiment of keeping the county citizens in the loop with information that isn’t BS
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

Flapp_Jackson

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2022, 10:38:42 AM »
You must have a mouse in your pocket.
I called on my Permit.  I'm Big Island,
County Hawaii
They claim that my permit is stalled because the  permit package is being revised.
That package will be available from the state AG website soon.
in the last 22 year there has never been a CCW permit package in Hawaii county.

AND why is the state AG issuing licenses when HRS 134-9 says it is the county
police chief that are responsible.
This is simple, they don't have a clue.
This is not wise;
Gett a lawyer on speed dial
Start conceal carrying.
Sue the county for 1 billion dollars.
I'm starting on Monday.
 :thumbsup:
Fuck them.
 :shaka:

Saw a KHON News video saying the chiefs in all counties are making updates to their application forms to accommodate CC licenses.  Once they have a final version, they will be contacting those who already applied to reapply on the new forms.

This simple fact is proof positive they never intended to issue CC permits to anyone.  No permits approved means no need forms, training guidelines or processing policies.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

nickelzismoney

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2022, 11:07:36 AM »
Saw a KHON News video saying the chiefs in all counties are making updates to their application forms to accommodate CC licenses.  Once they have a final version, they will be contacting those who already applied to reapply on the new forms.

This simple fact is proof positive they never intended to issue CC permits to anyone.  No permits approved means no need forms, training guidelines or processing policies.

You’d think the state would be proactive and save their own hides and at least develop some kind of basic plan because it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to obey, honor, and abide by the Constitution. But then again, these are Democrats that are currently in charge. They aren’t smart and don’t care about freedom — only controlling those “below” them and filling their wallets and bank accounts. But these recent SCOTUS rulings have definitely reminded them they aren’t above the law. Even if it didn’t directly and immediately change everything overnight, it paved the way for superb lawsuits to tear their asses down again and remind them who they are and why they were elected.
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

RSN172

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2022, 11:46:24 AM »
We appear to be getting closer and closer to our permits being granted.

Close, but not q-u-i-t-e there yet.  And when we do, be prepared for blood running in the streets, according to some of our esteemed wise political leaders.

And what is this bullshit about having to "reapply" after you filled out the form they originally provided.  More stall tactics.
Happily living in Puna

Flapp_Jackson

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2022, 11:57:21 AM »
You’d think the state would be proactive and save their own hides and at least develop some kind of basic plan because it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to obey, honor, and abide by the Constitution. But then again, these are Democrats that are currently in charge. They aren’t smart and don’t care about freedom — only controlling those “below” them and filling their wallets and bank accounts. But these recent SCOTUS rulings have definitely reminded them they aren’t above the law. Even if it didn’t directly and immediately change everything overnight, it paved the way for superb lawsuits to tear their asses down again and remind them who they are and why they were elected.

What you're witnessing is a temper tantrum.

Picture a 7 year old having to be dragged by his arm out of a toy store while kicking and screaming.

We're seeing a bunch of spoiled politicians used to being able to do whatever they want finally getting told, "NO!"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2022, 12:27:22 PM »
What you're witnessing is a temper tantrum.

Picture a 7 year old having to be dragged by his arm out of a toy store while kicking and screaming.

We're seeing a bunch of spoiled politicians used to being able to do whatever they want finally getting told, "NO!"

I was thinking this also.  Especially in Demokrat controlled Hawaii.  The leaders are so used to literally doing what they want but for this to happen the majority of the people here also need to be in lockstep with them.

Sad to say it was like this for so long.  Even when major corruption is revealed, the people here are either so apathetic or just conditioned to think this is how things are here.  We do things differently in Hawaii.  Yeah, right.  Fear of change. 

So now, powers greater than them has directed a certain mandate.  And they don't like it at all.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2022, 12:31:15 PM »
They definitely are not used to pressure from the public.

When someone knows their rights and is not afraid of them they don’t know how to respond.
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

nickelzismoney

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2022, 12:57:53 PM »
I was thinking this also.  Especially in Demokrat controlled Hawaii.  The leaders are so used to literally doing what they want but for this to happen the majority of the people here also need to be in lockstep with them.

Sad to say it was like this for so long.  Even when major corruption is revealed, the people here are either so apathetic or just conditioned to think this is how things are here.  We do things differently in Hawaii.  Yeah, right.  Fear of change. 

So now, powers greater than them has directed a certain mandate.  And they don't like it at all.

We have to be the factor that helps everyone see that this is NOT how it should be and that just because it happens here and has always happened doesn’t mean it should continue
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

groveler

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2022, 01:13:06 PM »
What you're witnessing is a temper tantrum.

Picture a 7 year old having to be dragged by his arm out of a toy store while kicking and screaming.

We're seeing a bunch of spoiled politicians used to being able to do whatever they want finally getting told, "NO!"
Y'all nailed it pretty good.
Temper tantrum.
There be like less than 100 CCW applications in a state with 1.5 million people!
We are just the people trying to be legal.  They are afraid of the people that
ignore their stupid unconstitutional laws.
 :wtf:

changemyoil66

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2022, 01:53:35 PM »
What you're witnessing is a temper tantrum.

Picture a 7 year old having to be dragged by his arm out of a toy store while kicking and screaming.

We're seeing a bunch of spoiled politicians used to being able to do whatever they want finally getting told, "NO!"
I expect a NY type requirements soon. U know all the anti 2a here working with other states anti 2a. And politiciana have zero repercusions for violating judges. Look what HI did with the in person reg ruling.

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nickelzismoney

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2022, 02:52:13 PM »
I expect a NY type requirements soon. U know all the anti 2a here working with other states anti 2a. And politiciana have zero repercusions for violating judges. Look what HI did with the in person reg ruling.

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It won’t happen until next legislation session at the earliest IMO. I don’t believe the Governor has the authority to impose such rules as “emergency executive orders” and it’ll have to be voted on. I could be wrong.

In the meantime hopefully we’ll have some kind of timeframe where restriction measures aren’t very ample. And once it is, it will be legally and constitutionally challenged and overturned (should it even make it to signed law). Also, I know at least 2 of the Republican Gov candidates are somewhat for the Second Amendment, and hopefully enough so to veto/ reject said carry restrictions since Ige will be termed out. Not sure about Penn yet because he refused to answer my questions (but I’m also a nobody I’m his world).  Let’s hope that somewhat is an understatement because somewhat isn’t good enough.
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

oldfart

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2022, 03:56:46 PM »
the new ccw requirement is to hit 2 out of 3 soda cans at 100 yards in 3 seconds from a concealed carry holster
What, Me Worry?

ren

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2022, 04:14:02 PM »
the new ccw requirement is to hit 2 out of 3 soda cans at 100 yards in 3 seconds from a concealed carry holster

is that from an undisclosed, uber secret LE organization / agency?
Deeds Not Words

nickelzismoney

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2022, 04:34:57 PM »
the new ccw requirement is to hit 2 out of 3 soda cans at 100 yards in 3 seconds from a concealed carry holster

Easy day with my RDS 🥴
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

groveler

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2022, 04:50:03 PM »
the new ccw requirement is to hit 2 out of 3 soda cans at 100 yards in 3 seconds from a concealed carry holster
I can do that.
I'm sure most cops can't.
 :thumbsup:

RSN172

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2022, 04:59:02 PM »
I can do that.
I'm sure most cops can't.
 :thumbsup:
And if you hit 3 out of 3 you are disqualified because then da bad guy doesn't have a fighting chance to get away.
Happily living in Puna

nickelzismoney

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2022, 04:59:30 PM »
I can do that.
I'm sure most cops can't.
 :thumbsup:

If you make the bullet a donut and the cans their stomach no can miss
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

nickelzismoney

Re: We’re getting closer to CCW
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2022, 05:00:25 PM »
And if you hit 3 out of 3 you are disqualified because then da bad guy doesn't have a fighting chance to get away.

1 you suck not good enough for carry, 2 perfect, 3 disqualified and investigated for being danger to society
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein