Glock 19 or compact 1911? (Read 8246 times)

Direjackalope

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2022, 11:08:30 AM »
Glock 19 was the go to gun when there weren't much other quality options and they're popular now just cause everyone had one.  There are better guns out nowadays.  HK, Sig, Walther, S&W etc with better ergos and trigger.

I came for the reliability and stayed for the mag compatibility.

drck1000

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2022, 11:32:30 AM »
I came for the reliability and stayed for the mag compatibility.
Similar for me. Plus after market support and familiarity of one platform. Are there other guns with better ergos? Maybe, but I like and have gotten used to Glock. Glocks get a bad rap for triggers, but it’s not a match pistol.

Personal choice, but tried and true, at least for me.

London808

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2022, 12:34:06 PM »
I do t have experience with a 1911.

I can tell you that I put 2200 (confirmed) rounds thru my 19 before I cleaned it. It was still well lubed (factory  grease) and I probably could of carried on for some time. During that time I had zero non user introduced issues. The only reason I cleaned it was I wanted to carry it on a trip to the main land. 



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Teichi

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2022, 01:04:32 AM »
You should apply for a CCW permit for the gun you do have, not the one you wish you could have. Go put and buy a Glock, Sig, HK, or Keltec and then apply for CCW when you get it.

oldfart

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2022, 05:30:26 AM »
How much do you think it costs Glock to make a Glock? I'm guessing about $150 to manufacture a 19.
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Maybe even less if they use recycled water bottles for the frame and recycled Volkswagens for the upper.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2022, 10:58:40 AM »
How much do you think it costs Glock to make a Glock? I'm guessing about $150 to manufacture a 19.

If it's like most businesses, labor is usually the largest operations cost.  Then there's records compliance, reporting compliance, quality control, materials sourcing/acquisition, chemical tests on the materials during fabrication, facilities, equipment, maintenance on facilities and equipment, etc.

When I worked for Pizza Hut in college, a large, pan Supreme pizza that cost the customer $18 only took about $5 worth of ingredients. The ingredients were purchased and processed in mass volumes to keep the average cost down.  The "profit" went to overhead, wages and salaries, and corporate costs.  If we flubbed up an order, that one re-make ate into the profit by over 30% -- the $18 pizza now cost us $10, and that's only if the manager didn't take the pizza off the check to apologize for the mistake, meaning the store just lost the cost AND the potential profit from two pizza's worth of ingredients.

Yeah, it's easy to get tunnel vision and only see the raw material breakout as "what it costs to make."  When you add the labor, overhead, and everything else that goes into the process, I imagine the profit margin is a lot thinner than we'd think.
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oldfart

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2022, 11:09:53 AM »
If it's like most businesses, labor is usually the largest operations cost.  Then there's records compliance, reporting compliance, quality control, materials sourcing/acquisition, chemical tests on the materials during fabrication, facilities, equipment, maintenance on facilities and equipment, etc.

When I worked for Pizza Hut in college, a large, pan Supreme pizza that cost the customer $18 only took about $5 worth of ingredients. The ingredients were purchased and processed in mass volumes to keep the average cost down.  The "profit" went to overhead, wages and salaries, and corporate costs.  If we flubbed up an order, that one re-make ate into the profit by over 30% -- the $18 pizza now cost us $10, and that's only if the manager didn't take the pizza off the check to apologize for the mistake, meaning the store just lost the cost AND the potential profit from two pizza's worth of ingredients.

Yeah, it's easy to get tunnel vision and only see the raw material breakout as "what it costs to make."  When you add the labor, overhead, and everything else that goes into the process, I imagine the profit margin is a lot thinner than we'd think.
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correction...
Maybe even less if they use recycled water bottles for the frame, recycled Volkswagens for the upper, and Guatemalan immigrants shipped in from the border patrol as labor.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2022, 11:15:51 AM »
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correction...
Maybe even less if they use recycled water bottles for the frame, recycled Volkswagens for the upper, and Guatemalan immigrants shipped in from the border patrol as labor.
"EcoGlocks"

Who needs to ship workers in?  Biden's border insecurity policy is flooding the US market with cheap-ass labor.
The gubbment even delivers to your door if you want -- at taxpayer expense!
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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ren

Re: Glock 19 or compact 1911?
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2022, 11:32:50 AM »
figure the molds would've paid itself many times over by now
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