Armed witness kills Gunman (Read 12119 times)

pacwire

Armed witness kills Gunman
« on: July 17, 2022, 04:27:48 PM »

Wow. That’s the way! 

Should be on the news!


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2022, 04:39:56 PM »
A good guy with a gun is not a guarantee the bad guy with a gun can be/will be stopped,
but it's a heck of a lot better than 20 dead, more wounded, and armed Cops standing outside
waiting to be told what to do.

This "bystander" needs to be praised and rewarded as a symbol of how much we value
the sheepdogs among us.  I hope the NY, CA and HI Governors get the message.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

jc2721

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2022, 04:44:52 PM »
score 1 for the good guys! :shaka:

QUIETShooter

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2022, 06:58:20 PM »
Although tragic that 3 people got killed, it would have been far worse if there were no sheepdogs around to stop it.

Meeting fire with fire might not be the best solution, but tell that to the survivors and families of loved ones and they will tell you they are forever grateful that there is finally good guys amongst us.

I wish I had more faith that the NY, CA, and HI governors will get the message.  These asshats tend to look at a glass as half empty instead of half full.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2022, 07:12:24 PM »
I don't think our local leaders are cynical - they just don't trust the law-abiding citizen...they think govt is THE answer to everything and most people here in HI agree. The one thing I point out to people like this is the concrete boondoggle called the rail....govt isn't made up of the brightest people. Even if they proclaim that they are a medical doctor.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2022, 08:29:48 PM »
Fun fact:  Indiana's Constitutional Carry Law went into effect THIS MONTH:

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House Bill 1296, also known as the “constitutional carry” law, went into effect on
July 1, 2022 and essentially removes most of the qualifications previously
needed to carry a handgun in public.
https://outsidethebadge.com/indiana-constitutional-carry/

Yeah, tell me again about "the Wild West" and "Blood running in the streets."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2022, 10:23:47 PM »
read it was close to 50 yard shot
Deeds Not Words

mill8316

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2022, 11:30:50 PM »
read it was close to 50 yard shot

That’s pretty difficult. A 50 yard shot on an armed attacker under that stress with a handgun, and the tough consequences for misses in a mall food court.

Major props to the CCW hero

RSN172

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2022, 03:42:50 AM »
Fun fact:  Indiana's Constitutional Carry Law went into effect THIS MONTH:
https://outsidethebadge.com/indiana-constitutional-carry/

Yeah, tell me again about "the Wild West" and "Blood running in the streets."
Oh you will get to see it firsthand once those 78 applicants get their permits.

Just ask Karl Rhoads. He'll tell ya.
Happily living in Puna

QUIETShooter

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2022, 06:20:36 AM »
read it was close to 50 yard shot

That's some great shooting with a handgun under duress.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

QUIETShooter

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2022, 06:31:51 AM »
Oh you will get to see it firsthand once those 78 applicants get their permits.

Just ask Karl Rhoads. He'll tell ya.

I recently saw a survey report about states and gun ownership percentages.  Hawaii was on the lower end of firearms ownership per capita.  Something like around 10% of the population owning firearms.

This leads to suggest that the majority of Hawaii is either on the fence concerning firearms issues or are more anti-2a.

Hopefully when this CCW issue is finally implemented and Hawaii firearm owners can carry the public will see that the "The Wild West" and "Blood in the Streets" rhetoric that this asshat Karl Rhoads keep harping about is simply full of shiite.

The 2a community will show that firearms in the possession of law-abiding citizens is nothing to be afraid of.

edited to add:  And will start the path where Hawaii will become a more 2a friendly state.  Just need to beat down the asshats like Karl Rhoads.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

nickelzismoney

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2022, 06:40:52 AM »
Good on that 22 year old kid for stopping the treat in the way he knew he had to. Always unfortunate when a life has to be taken, but in this case it seems there was no other way to stop the shooter, so he did what he was obligated to do. The state should award him some kind of civilian hero medal, maybe a scholarship, and should pay for his therapy should he choose or deem it necessary. Not all heroes wear capes, and clearly those who think carrying a firearm is dangerous or shouldn’t be allowed are disgustingly lucky and spoiled enough to have never been in his position. Good on that young man.
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

changemyoil66

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2022, 08:15:59 AM »
I read an interesting statement that went something like:

2 mean ignored the gun free zone sign.  1 with the intent to take lives, the other with the intent to save lives.

QUIETShooter

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2022, 08:35:38 AM »
I read an interesting statement that went something like:

2 mean ignored the gun free zone sign.  1 with the intent to take lives, the other with the intent to save lives.

And what is interesting is how the media puts more attention to the guy who saved lives than the guy who went in intent on killing people.  Several instances in the article mentioned that the good samaritan had a concealed weapon on him in a mall that had a no firearm policy.  No mention that the bad guy also brought a gun into the mall.

It's sad that when it comes to good guys and bad guys, the good guys get the rap.  And it's all because of an agenda.  Common sense does not prevail here.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2022, 08:36:32 AM »
I clicked on a live feed of a press conference with the police dept there.
The spokesman said that they went to the bad guy's apartment and found his cellphone in the toilet and his laptop in the oven with a can of butane. The oven was on.
SMH
What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2022, 08:42:25 AM »
And what is interesting is how the media puts more attention to the guy who saved lives than the guy who went in intent on killing people.  Several instances in the article mentioned that the good samaritan had a concealed weapon on him in a mall that had a no firearm policy.  No mention that the bad guy also brought a gun into the mall.

It's sad that when it comes to good guys and bad guys, the good guys get the rap.  And it's all because of an agenda.  Common sense does not prevail here.



Their intent is to completely ban the 2A. And they know their followers have no common sense, which is why they use emotion to push it.

groveler

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2022, 08:50:45 AM »
I recently saw a survey report about states and gun ownership percentages.  Hawaii was on the lower end of firearms ownership per capita.  Something like around 10% of the population owning firearms.

This leads to suggest that the majority of Hawaii is either on the fence concerning firearms issues or are more anti-2a.

Hopefully when this CCW issue is finally implemented and Hawaii firearm owners can carry the public will see that the "The Wild West" and "Blood in the Streets" rhetoric that this asshat Karl Rhoads keep harping about is simply full of shiite.

The 2a community will show that firearms in the possession of law-abiding citizens is nothing to be afraid of. winchester

edited to add:  And will start the path where Hawaii will become a more 2a friendly state.  Just need to beat down the asshats like Karl Rhoads.
Anecdotally,
more people here own guns than you think.
I'm very sure they don't register them, hence they don't show them off,
but they have them.
A lady whose name I don't remember and whose address I forgot,  ask me to clean and service her Parker ranch model 94.
That is a Winchester model 1894,  30-30 for you Democrats out there.
I suppose I broke some law by possessing and cleaning a dirty gun.
Bore was excellent, but all bluing was gone. CLP is our friend.
I offered to buy it and she refused to sell.
And that was just one of the guns she had, she is a widow.
Her 10-22 was a mess.  Have you ever seen anybody use Bondo to fix a broken stock?
it is ugly.
 :geekdanc:


« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 09:01:16 AM by groveler »

ren

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2022, 09:31:20 AM »
it gets worse
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-control-advocates-stunned-man-allegedly-shot-indiana-mall-shooter-labeled-good-samaritan

Critics are lashing out after a man carrying a pistol stopped a mass shooting at an Indiana shopping mall, arguing the man should not be called a "Good Samaritan."

"The term, ‘Good Samaritan’ came from a Bible passage of a man from Samaria who stopped on the side of the road to help a man who was injured and ignored," wrote CBS4 traffic anchor Justin Kollar on Twitter Monday. "I cannot believe we live in a world where the term can equally apply to someone killing someone… my God."

But some critics joined Kollar in criticizing the man's actions despite him allegedly putting a stop to the mass shooting.

"The Good Samaritan paid for an unknown immigrant's health care out of pocket," comedian John Fugelsang wrote on Twitter. "The Good Samaritan did not shoot anyone. Jesus was not a fan of killing for any reason, including self-defense. But if these ammosexuals had ever read the Bible, they couldn't support the GOP or NRA."

"I don’t know who needs to hear this but when a 22-year-old illegally brings a loaded gun into a mall and kills a mass shooter armed with an AR-15 after he already killed three people and wounded others is not a ringing endorsement of our implementation of the Second Amendment," Moms Demand Action Founder Shannon Watts said on Twitter.
Deeds Not Words

nickelzismoney

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2022, 09:33:42 AM »
Their intent is to completely ban the 2A. And they know their followers have no common sense, which is why they use emotion to push it.

This tactic the mall uses is absolutely disgusting. Should they come out against him and want to pursue action against him, he should take them to court. The police chief admitted what he did was not against the law, and even the mayor of the city publicly thanked him for his heroism. Bring that company to its knees financially, then let him buy it and instate policy allowing carry of firearms.
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

nickelzismoney

Re: Armed witness kills Gunman
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2022, 09:37:53 AM »
it gets worse
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-control-advocates-stunned-man-allegedly-shot-indiana-mall-shooter-labeled-good-samaritan

Critics are lashing out after a man carrying a pistol stopped a mass shooting at an Indiana shopping mall, arguing the man should not be called a "Good Samaritan."

"The term, ‘Good Samaritan’ came from a Bible passage of a man from Samaria who stopped on the side of the road to help a man who was injured and ignored," wrote CBS4 traffic anchor Justin Kollar on Twitter Monday. "I cannot believe we live in a world where the term can equally apply to someone killing someone… my God."

But some critics joined Kollar in criticizing the man's actions despite him allegedly putting a stop to the mass shooting.

"The Good Samaritan paid for an unknown immigrant's health care out of pocket," comedian John Fugelsang wrote on Twitter. "The Good Samaritan did not shoot anyone. Jesus was not a fan of killing for any reason, including self-defense. But if these ammosexuals had ever read the Bible, they couldn't support the GOP or NRA."

"I don’t know who needs to hear this but when a 22-year-old illegally brings a loaded gun into a mall and kills a mass shooter armed with an AR-15 after he already killed three people and wounded others is not a ringing endorsement of our implementation of the Second Amendment," Moms Demand Action Founder Shannon Watts said on Twitter.


“Illegally”. Morons. He should be given a press conference and vocally, directly, and publicly tell others the importance and the possible benefits that exercising your Second Amendment rights can show. God forbid those assholes go out on the town and are faced with violence; but it would make me a bad person to say that the slandering of this young man and the Second Amendment, right? 

Yes, let’s go after and slander the fact that a young man, legally armed and justified, took the life of a psychopath who felt the need to cause mass harm, panic, and death and intended to do so. Let’s ignore what he did was good and was thanked and called a hero by both the mayor and the police department. Criticize him for doing something illegal that was not actually in any case illegal. This boils my blood but I’ll hold my tongue so the HPD personnel tasked with stalking our SM accounts don’t see me angry and deny my permit 🥸🙄🤔
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 09:45:35 AM by nickelzismoney »
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein