Hurry up with those permits Chief (Read 101111 times)

RSN172

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2022, 09:32:20 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/31/police-arrest-suspect-accused-beating-elderly-man-apparent-road-rage-attack-laie/

No charges filed in road rage attack caught on camera.

No consequences = more crime

Would charges be filed if there was video of the 70yo successfully defending himself with a ccw?
Of course, there would.  Brandishing if he didn't shoot. Attempted or 2nd degree murder,  depending on the outcome, if he did shoot. You are not allowed to defend yourself here. This is Hawaii. Com'n man.
Happily living in Puna

Direjackalope

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2022, 10:42:57 AM »
I was at Times in Mililani today and saw a Concealed Carry Handgun magazine in the rack at the check out.  I think my heart grew 3 sizes.

groveler

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2022, 11:07:23 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/31/police-arrest-suspect-accused-beating-elderly-man-apparent-road-rage-attack-laie/

No charges filed in road rage attack caught on camera.

No consequences = more crime

Would charges be filed if there was video of the 70yo successfully defending himself with a ccw?
Curious.
I have at my disposal a rather large machine that can easily kill some stupid bastard trying to kill me.
why didn't he use it.
Most my vehicles are 4WD and nearly twenty years old, so I don't care if they get a few more dents.
All those lines on the road are just suggestions, and if nobody sees anything then there is no crime.
 :shaka:


Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2022, 11:19:28 AM »
Curious.
I have at my disposal a rather large machine that can easily kill some stupid bastard trying to kill me.
why didn't he use it.
Most my vehicles are 4WD and nearly twenty years old, so I don't care if they get a few more dents.
All those lines on the road are just suggestions, and if nobody sees anything then there is no crime.
 :shaka:

I was questioning why the truck driver/victim opened his door at all.  That's something you just never do when a confrontation is brewing.

Second, once the assailant parked off the roadway, why did the victim not drive away? 

I think there was more back-and-forth going on, and the victim was giving the bad driver a piece of his mind -- not the way the family relayed it to the press.

Still, once the encounter turned physical, the assailant committed a crime.  Assault, battery, whatever.  Punching him while on the ground then kicking him?  That's not a situation that can be remedied with anger management classes.

Arrests, fines and incarcerations are  meant to be instructive for the rest of us -- do the crime, do the time.

Our Liberal-minded officials are teaching the wrong lessons to future criminals.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2022, 12:01:18 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/31/police-arrest-suspect-accused-beating-elderly-man-apparent-road-rage-attack-laie/

No charges filed in road rage attack caught on camera.

No consequences = more crime

Would charges be filed if there was video of the 70yo successfully defending himself with a ccw?
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When I see these types of stories, I always wonder what actually happened.
I'll bet the old guy probably said or did some stupid stuff too.
That's probably why the cops didn't press charges.

I'd be really interested to hear the other side of the story.
What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2022, 01:08:39 PM »
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When I see these types of stories, I always wonder what actually happened.
I'll bet the old guy probably said or did some stupid stuff too.
That's probably why the cops didn't press charges.

I'd be really interested to hear the other side of the story.
Fights often take 2 to tango. Imo, old guy couls have kept driving. So gets his ass beat is on him.

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Direjackalope

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2022, 01:11:56 PM »
I got a letter about my CCW application from HPD yesterday.  You can see the identical letter on HIFICO's facebook page.  https://www.facebook.com/hificoorg/

TLDR:  We're working on it. "....near future" Stop bothering us.

changemyoil66

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2022, 01:23:49 PM »
I got a letter about my CCW application from HPD yesterday.  You can see the identical letter on HIFICO's facebook page.  https://www.facebook.com/hificoorg/

TLDR:  We're working on it. "....near future" Stop bothering us.
Which means "we are working to find a loophole to deny permits, without being sued. And havent found 1 yet, but were trying"

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oldfart

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2022, 01:27:12 PM »
Which means "we are working to find a loophole to deny permits, without being sued. And havent found 1 yet, but were trying"

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LOL
good one :thumbsup:
What, Me Worry?

nickelzismoney

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2022, 01:55:28 PM »
I got a letter about my CCW application from HPD yesterday.  You can see the identical letter on HIFICO's facebook page.  https://www.facebook.com/hificoorg/

TLDR:  We're working on it. "....near future" Stop bothering us.

Yup, got mine too
“No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how hard you fall… you are never out of the fight.” - Marcus Luttrel

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein

groveler

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2022, 09:26:30 PM »
The County of Hawaii website for permits is down as is
the police commission.
Starting tomorrow I will retain a practicing criminal trial lawyer.
I will call the US attorney and request prosecution under title 18 US code section 242
of the police chief for abuse of power under the color of law.
Once I can get to them I will file a complaint with the police commission.
Metaphorically I declare war against the county and state of Hawaii.
 :love:

 

hvybarrels

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2022, 10:13:02 PM »
The laws are already on the books. Follow them!

Since when did the AG take over for the legislature?
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

RSN172

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2022, 06:12:56 AM »
The laws are already on the books. Follow them!

Since when did the AG take over for the legislature?
Since her appointment ?
Happily living in Puna

6716J

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2022, 07:33:49 AM »
I was at Times in Mililani today and saw a Concealed Carry Handgun magazine in the rack at the check out.  I think my heart grew 3 sizes.

I laughed when I went into the Mililani Wally World yesterday and noticed the sign at the front door said "Please refrain from open carrying your firearm". It was made funnier because the word refrain was highlighted on the sign. Like, we would prefer you didn't but we're not gonna make a big stink if you do.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

RSN172

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2022, 08:09:27 AM »
I laughed when I went into the Mililani Wally World yesterday and noticed the sign at the front door said "Please refrain from open carrying your firearm". It was made funnier because the word refrain was highlighted on the sign. Like, we would prefer you didn't but we're not gonna make a big stink if you do.
Cops better leave their guns in the car before entering.  They need to set the example in obeying a lawful business rules and regulations.
Happily living in Puna

punaperson

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2022, 08:52:36 AM »
I laughed when I went into the Mililani Wally World yesterday and noticed the sign at the front door said "Please refrain from open carrying your firearm". It was made funnier because the word refrain was highlighted on the sign. Like, we would prefer you didn't but we're not gonna make a big stink if you do.
Just guessing, but likely a nod to complaining woke snowflakes who are mentally and emotionally traumatized at the sight of a firearm in possession of a human being, including cops (Remember George Floyd!)?

Rocky

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2022, 08:56:37 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/31/police-arrest-suspect-accused-beating-elderly-man-apparent-road-rage-attack-laie/

No charges filed in road rage attack caught on camera.

No consequences = more crime

Would charges be filed if there was video of the 70yo successfully defending himself with a ccw?
This 70 yr old who just recently lost his wife was beaten by a 28 yr old on camera ...
And no charges filed ?

   Story is he was returning from visiting wife's grave.
Not sure but I would assume she is in the Laie cemetery which is by the Laie park which is next to his home.
Don't know why he would be up on the end of Laie Point.
Did he follow Aikau ?
Regardless, 70 yr old was beaten by a 28 yr old on camera ...
And no charges filed .  :wtf:
Perhaps because the perp is the nephew of the "Eddie Aikau" family and has some HPD connections ?  ::)
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macsak

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2022, 09:16:23 AM »
i hope the aikau boy doesn't trip and fall or get in an "accident"...

This 70 yr old who just recently lost his wife was beaten by a 28 yr old on camera ...
And no charges filed ?

   Story is he was returning from visiting wife's grave.
Not sure but I would assume she is in the Laie cemetery which is by the Laie park which is next to his home.
Don't know why he would be up on the end of Laie Point.
Did he follow Aikau ?
Regardless, 70 yr old was beaten by a 28 yr old on camera ...
And no charges filed .  :wtf:
Perhaps because the perp is the nephew of the "Eddie Aikau" family and has some HPD connections ?  ::)

changemyoil66

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2022, 09:27:24 AM »
This 70 yr old who just recently lost his wife was beaten by a 28 yr old on camera ...
And no charges filed ?

   Story is he was returning from visiting wife's grave.
Not sure but I would assume she is in the Laie cemetery which is by the Laie park which is next to his home.
Don't know why he would be up on the end of Laie Point.
Did he follow Aikau ?
Regardless, 70 yr old was beaten by a 28 yr old on camera ...
And no charges filed .  :wtf:
Perhaps because the perp is the nephew of the "Eddie Aikau" family and has some HPD connections ?  ::)

They are re-visting the evidence.

groveler

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2022, 09:33:49 AM »
Just to keep you guys in the loop
Arranged for an attorney to consult with as need.
Called the US attorney to lodge a complaint against my
police chief. violation of title 18 USC section 242.
Voicemail.
Local police and police commission still on voice mail only.
They don't return calls.
Our system is screwed up.
Lack of action is an ACTION.
 :grrr: