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ren

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #220 on: August 27, 2022, 02:45:29 PM »
Didn't all these elected officials took an oath to uphold the Constitution? A ruling by the SCOTUS and they are just denying citizens' rights? They should be kicked out of office.
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nickelzismoney

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #221 on: August 27, 2022, 02:47:54 PM »
Quote from: ren on August 27, 2022, 02:45:29 PM
Didn't all these elected officials took an oath to uphold the Constitution? A ruling by the SCOTUS and they are just denying citizens' rights? They should be kicked out of office.

No, they only swear to the Constitution if it benefits them
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hvybarrels

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #222 on: August 27, 2022, 03:31:54 PM »
Good cause is still there


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QUIETShooter

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #223 on: August 27, 2022, 04:01:12 PM »
Quote from: nickelzismoney on August 27, 2022, 12:51:40 PM
Not sure how accurate the info is, but I read that it was a LEOSA qualified person so would’ve been given to him anyway

Oh, ok.  Maybe the other 4 or so given in the past 20 years were LEOSA also.  Or maybe a politicians friend or family.

But not one of us law-abiding, responsible, and tax-paying citizens, the backbone of a civil society.  In their eyes we are criminals with bad intentions for wanting to carry firearms to protect ourselves and our loved ones.
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nickelzismoney

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #224 on: August 27, 2022, 06:57:05 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on August 27, 2022, 04:01:12 PM
Oh, ok.  Maybe the other 4 or so given in the past 20 years were LEOSA also.  Or maybe a politicians friend or family.

But not one of us law-abiding, responsible, and tax-paying citizens, the backbone of a civil society.  In their eyes we are criminals with bad intentions for wanting to carry firearms to protect ourselves and our loved ones.

I wish they’d all just     f u c k   o  f   f
« Last Edit: August 27, 2022, 09:10:14 PM by nickelzismoney »
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punaperson

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #225 on: August 27, 2022, 08:51:13 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on August 27, 2022, 12:42:54 PM
Wonder who that one guy in Maui is.  He got one.  How the f**k did that happen.
Maui PD responded to my official UIPA request for all information/application consideration, evaluation, etc. yesterday, Friday August 26, at 6 PM.

The official response is "We need to speak to another [unnamed] person before providing any information."

I plan to call the UIPA office on Monday and ask specifically what this means. Maui PD has two weeks to provide a further response.

I told them I don't want any personal information re the identity of the applicant, just how the application was filled out and how the information was evaluated to issue a license.

As I wrote elsewhere, I'm particularly interested in what proficiency course he took and passed within 90 days prior to the application, as required.
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punaperson

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #226 on: August 27, 2022, 08:57:27 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on August 27, 2022, 04:01:12 PM
Oh, ok.  Maybe the other 4 or so given in the past 20 years were LEOSA also.  Or maybe a politicians friend or family.
The two issued by Maui in 2000 (might be off a year on the date) are unknown as Maui PD claims all records regarding those licenses no longer exists.

The two issued on Kauai were issued to a judge and either a military member, or a family member of a military member. Kauai PD actually sent me the full applications with no name redaction. smh. Both were issued technically illegally for terms other than the one year required by HRS. The judge's license was renewed at intervals other than one year, illegal. The military related license was revoked in a short time... I'm assuming the threat was removed.
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pacwire

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #227 on: August 28, 2022, 10:18:31 AM »
DID YOU KNOW OR DO YOU CARE?

In reviewing the "Amendment and compilation of Chapter 15 of the Rules of the Chief of Police, Honolulu Police Department, it states "relating to the procedure for firearms permits and licensing, were adopted on ___________, 2022 following a public hearing held on October 4, 2022, at the Honolulu Police Department, during which public testimony was taken, after public notice containing all information required by Section 91-3, Hawaii Revised Statutes, was published in the Honolulu Star Advertiser on __________, 2022.

These rules shall take effect ten days after filing with the Office of the City Clerk, City and County of Honolulu"

Hmmm  Oct 2022?  If you reviewed the PDF, you will find out about the Written test and shooting requirements.

I guess the hearing will be Tuesday October 4th!

Hope this is all true!

Have a GREAT rest of your weekend!

Aloha!    :thumbsup: :shaka:

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zippz

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #228 on: August 28, 2022, 10:28:32 AM »
Quote from: pacwire on August 28, 2022, 10:18:31 AM
DID YOU KNOW OR DO YOU CARE?

In reviewing the "Amendment and compilation of Chapter 15 of the Rules of the Chief of Police, Honolulu Police Department, it states "relating to the procedure for firearms permits and licensing, were adopted on ___________, 2022 following a public hearing held on October 4, 2022, at the Honolulu Police Department, during which public testimony was taken, after public notice containing all information required by Section 91-3, Hawaii Revised Statutes, was published in the Honolulu Star Advertiser on __________, 2022.

These rules shall take effect ten days after filing with the Office of the City Clerk, City and County of Honolulu"

Hmmm  Oct 2022?  If you reviewed the PDF, you will find out about the Written test and shooting requirements.

I guess the hearing will be Tuesday October 4th!

Hope this is all true!

Have a GREAT rest of your weekend!

Aloha!    :thumbsup: :shaka:

It's not all bad news.  You only need 1 passport photo instead of the current 2.

There's some bad stuff in the other firearms regulations too, like under 21 needs a permit to carry guns for hunting.  Not sure where they got authority for that one.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #229 on: August 28, 2022, 10:42:04 AM »
So, it seems that this Hearing that is scheduled for Oct.4 2022 is a PSA Hearing, not a Hearing to voice opinions and concerns.

Because it looks like they already mapped out what they want and will enforce out of all of this.  It's like the Hearing is to say "This is what will transpire, tough shiite, cry me a river, go to hell if you don't like it and Have a Nice Day.  Oh, and don't forget to pay your taxes....."

Sincerely, Your Friendly C&C HPD, Neighbor Island Counties, and the Communist Government of the State of Hawaii. 

Aloha. ;D
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RSN172

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #230 on: August 28, 2022, 10:47:49 AM »
Quote from: zippz on August 28, 2022, 10:28:32 AM
Not sure where they got authority for that one.

That is their SOP. Make up bullshit to fit their agenda and screw what the law says.
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dafrtknocker

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #231 on: August 28, 2022, 12:37:42 PM »
is this the same as HPD test?

A shooting proficiency test. To pass, the applicant shall attain a minimum
score of 75 points, out of a possible total of 125 points on the following
25-round course, using a National Rifle Association certified target:
(i) Three-yard line: 2 rounds in 6 seconds from a concealed holster;
three times (6 rounds / 4 second draw – 2 second split).
(ii) Five-yard line: 2 rounds in 6 seconds from a concealed holster;
two times (4 rounds / 4 second draw – 2 second split).
(iii) Seven-yard line: 5 rounds in 13 seconds from a concealed holster;
one time (5 rounds / 4 second draw – 2.25 second split).
(iv) Ten-yard line: 5 rounds in 15 seconds from a concealed holster;
one time (5 rounds / 4 sec. draw – 2.75 second split).
(v) Fifteen-yard line: 5 rounds in 20 seconds from a concealed
holster; one time (5 rounds / 4 second draw – 4 second split).
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punaperson

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #232 on: August 28, 2022, 12:58:45 PM »
Quote from: pacwire on August 28, 2022, 10:18:31 AM
HPD-Rules-of-the-Chief-of-Police.pdf
What a monstrously gigantic fetid pile of total pigsh*t.
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hvybarrels

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #233 on: August 28, 2022, 01:24:46 PM »
Quote from: punaperson on August 28, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
What a monstrously gigantic fetid pile of total pigsh*t.

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hvybarrels

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #234 on: August 28, 2022, 01:27:58 PM »
Quote from: zippz on August 28, 2022, 10:28:32 AM
It's not all bad news.  You only need 1 passport photo instead of the current 2.

Thanks for making me laugh despite the shameless authoritarian power grab and continued violation of our constitutional rights.

Hopefully one of these lawsuits will end up in a big payout for you guys.
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ren

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #235 on: August 28, 2022, 01:46:50 PM »
at least theres no mask requirement
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robtmc

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #236 on: August 28, 2022, 02:12:37 PM »
Quote from: Jaco808 on August 28, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
the physician, psychologist, or psychiatrist shall personally evaluate the
applicant for no less than 45 minutes before so attesting.

You guys are really going to go through all this crap, along with giving them permission to dig into every private aspect of your life?

45 minutes with a shrink?  Shrinks are not cheap by the hour.

Do Hawaii polices have to go through this? 
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kuwegg57

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #237 on: August 28, 2022, 02:35:45 PM »
Quote from: Jaco808 on August 28, 2022, 12:39:47 PM
Lv 2 or greater holster.... what?  That's retarded.

Is there such a thing as a level 2 IWB holster for a mini 10 round  9mm (eg, Sig 365)

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ren

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #238 on: August 28, 2022, 03:37:10 PM »
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/woman-held-at-gunpoint-in-makakilo/
someone is carrying without a permit...I am 99.9% sure that person is a CRIMINAL
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zippz

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #239 on: August 28, 2022, 05:33:38 PM »
Quote from: kuwegg57 on August 28, 2022, 02:35:45 PM
Is there such a thing as a level 2 IWB holster for a mini 10 round  9mm (eg, Sig 365)

There's lvl 2 owb concealment holsters, like safarilands and others.  I don't know of any iwb.

Usually the concealment is the level 2.  I doubt HPD officer's have to wear level 2s off duty.
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