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QUIETShooter

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #280 on: August 30, 2022, 05:21:41 AM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on August 30, 2022, 01:53:50 AM
https://www.civilbeat.org/?p=1511331

“An Increase In ‘Violent, Brazen’ Crime Raises Concerns On Oahu”

Even the libs are noticing how nuts it’s getting and they NEVER like to admit they were wrong.

I really honestly believe that when the food shortages kick in after the election we’ll see some civil unrest.

First Europe will freeze and burn, and then it’s our turn.

Wouldn't surprise me that HPD does the "All hands on deck" thing and pulls the Firearms Division out in the field to help with the rampant crime.

PTA's, Registrations, and CCW applications will be put on hold. 

At that point the "Ainokea" and "Inogiveash*t" permits come into play.
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RSN172

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #281 on: August 30, 2022, 08:01:49 AM »
I like Oahu get so violent that people are afraid to go out at night, crime goes up 200%.  Nothing against Oahu people, but that is where the legislature is. 

I lived on Oahu from 1968 to 2015 and have many close friends there, but the Communists in power need to wake up.  I am hoping people get so scared

that thousands start using the F-Dis-Bullshit Ainokeaanymo permit. 
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hvybarrels

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #282 on: August 30, 2022, 10:57:00 AM »
Quote from: RSN172 on August 30, 2022, 08:01:49 AM
I like Oahu get so violent that people are afraid to go out at night, crime goes up 200%.  Nothing against Oahu people, but that is where the legislature is. 


What if violent crime is like a societal immune system that lets us know that we are fighting off a parasitic infection? It’s the only thing that will wake some people up, that’s for sure.
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nickelzismoney

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #283 on: August 30, 2022, 11:08:26 AM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on August 30, 2022, 10:57:00 AM

What if violent crime is like a societal immune system that lets us know that we are fighting off a parasitic infection? It’s the only thing that will wake some people up, that’s for sure.

Let’s hope those pro-2A antibodies start kicking in soon and kick those parasites in their commie faces
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finalchecker

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #284 on: August 30, 2022, 05:09:55 PM »
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stangzilla

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #285 on: August 30, 2022, 05:22:23 PM »
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stangzilla

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #286 on: August 30, 2022, 05:30:23 PM »
The State-Certified or National Rifle Association Firearm Instructors are responsible for determining the
course of fire to be performed by the applicant that will allow the Instructor to certify that the applicant is
proficient in the handling and use of the firearm involved. At the minimum, the proficiency course of fire
conducted by Firearm Instructors should consist of the following, with a passing score of 75% or greater.


the instructor determines the course of fire
so does this mean the applicant needs to do all 3 of the courses of fire?  or just 1 selected by the instructor?
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finalchecker

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #287 on: August 30, 2022, 05:38:18 PM »
Quote from: stangzilla on August 30, 2022, 05:30:23 PM
The State-Certified or National Rifle Association Firearm Instructors are responsible for determining the
course of fire to be performed by the applicant that will allow the Instructor to certify that the applicant is
proficient in the handling and use of the firearm involved. At the minimum, the proficiency course of fire
conducted by Firearm Instructors should consist of the following, with a passing score of 75% or greater.


the instructor determines the course of fire
so does this mean the applicant needs to do all 3 of the courses of fire?  or just 1 selected by the instructor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambiguity
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stangzilla

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #288 on: August 30, 2022, 05:49:37 PM »
looks like applicants need to do all 3 of those courses
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ren

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #289 on: August 30, 2022, 06:05:53 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/08/30/people-are-acting-little-nuts-new-data-shows-increase-violent-crime-oahu/

Oahu’s murder rate is up nearly 30%.

From January to July, there were at least 18 deaths, compared to 14 at the same time last year.

Aggravated assaults are up 3% overall, but Waikiki saw a 40% spike as tourists returned.
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drck1000

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #290 on: August 30, 2022, 06:18:20 PM »
“should” not “shall”
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #291 on: August 30, 2022, 06:23:41 PM »
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #292 on: August 30, 2022, 06:24:39 PM »
Quote from: stangzilla on August 30, 2022, 05:22:23 PM
sheesh!

Really, Yeah?

You'd think we going to war or something, lol!
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changemyoil66

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #293 on: August 30, 2022, 06:44:35 PM »
Quote from: finalchecker on August 30, 2022, 05:09:55 PM
Hawaii County has updated the shooting proficiency test requirements.

https://www.hawaiipolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Supplement-to-Application-For-License-to-Carry-Proficiency-Test.pdf
Wow, do-able, but wow.

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nickelzismoney

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #294 on: August 30, 2022, 09:27:49 PM »
Quote from: stangzilla on August 30, 2022, 05:22:23 PM
sheesh!

Looks stupid easy except the 6rds in 30sec. But from 7yds wouldn’t honestly be that hard unless you take too long to do follow-on shots

Bit of a stresser regarding time, but definitely doable
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Rhed

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #295 on: August 30, 2022, 09:49:19 PM »
Thank God it’s not 40 yards. If it were, I need training..
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punaperson

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #296 on: August 30, 2022, 09:56:05 PM »
I really like the two "Tim"s. And that giant comma superimposed over the "i".

These people really  know what they are doing.

Oh, wait, I meant to say these people are totally incompetent and full of sh*t.

Obviously unconstitutional. Guessing they will get away with it for, oh, forever.
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RSN172

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #297 on: August 31, 2022, 12:00:40 AM »
They are figuring most people not going be able to drsw from concealment and get 2 shots on target in 2 seconds or less.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #298 on: August 31, 2022, 06:21:50 AM »
Am I the only one that is paranoid about KHSC being closed to everything except .22 LR?

Nobody will be able to train with their pistols unless they plan to carry .22 LR.

I was planning to pocket carry but to do the test there is no way I can pass it with pocket carry.

Looks like the older, retired citizens will have to train more to meet that test. (Like me).

So am I going to be arrested if I end up pocket carrying instead of complying with a level 2 holster? 
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RSN172

Re: Hurry up with those permits Chief
« Reply #299 on: August 31, 2022, 06:54:46 AM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on August 31, 2022, 06:21:50 AM

So am I going to be arrested if I end up pocket carrying instead of complying with a level 2 holster?

Yes, and also handcuffed and beaten.  Cops enjoy beating helpless people.

I plan to just carry my G19.  I have a Umarex BB clone of that gun as well as a 22LR kit for it.  I practice a lot with the BB clonedrawing and shooting from 3 to 7 yards.  I have full confidence I can pass those tests.
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