The wording and proficiency test for KPD and Hawaii PD look the same.

The wording and proficiency test for KPD and Hawaii PD look the same.

Their waivers also are very similar. Unknown if Oahu will do the same waiver.

Their waivers also are very similar. Unknown if Oahu will do the same waiver.

garans they will...

That waiver is Full.....Of.....Shiite.....

garans they will...

Ya mean I have to give up my rights to exercise my rights ? 

Saw on aol, yahoo and even msn.

How Armed Citizen Raul Mendez Took a Bullet & Stopped a Mass Shooting

https://www.msn.com/en-us/?cvid=ab94271f2c11405e9649bf2ac8047c19

with NRA vid
https://www.ballisticmag.com/raul-mendez-mass-shooting/

   How about we do a LEO Community event.

   Every day citizens (us) pick their favorite LEO to  compete against every day citizens (us) in the HPD Chief Rules Shooting Proficiency Test.
No SWAT, Marksman, Sniper, Special Services allowed on LEO side.
No IPSC, IDPA, USPSA or professional competitive shooters on the civie side

   Teams of 10 -20 each, $100 per person entry fee.
ALL proceeds donated to (P.A.L.) Police Activities League (think of the children).
 I'm in.

there are certain gun shop(s) that will benefit from all these "proposed" rules.

there are certain gun shop(s) that will benefit from all these "proposed" rules.

They are absolutely salivating. Wonder if we can cash in those promised freebies?

They are absolutely salivating. Wonder if we can cash in those promised freebies?

I think we are on the same freq. of 96797

The Kauai Police Department's new concealed carry permitting and application process:
https://www.kitv.com/news/local/kauai-police-issue-revised-permitting-and-application-process-for-gun-licenses/article_1693a246-2fae-11ed-bc63-bb524031ac57.html

-Copy of current Firearm Registration for firearm to be carried.

-Copy of signed Firearms Proficiency Test including scores (test must be dated within 90 days of application):

-Firearms Proficiency Test must be taken with the firearm to be carried (Minimum Qualification course of fire and proficiency standards located online at KPD’s website);
Handgun Qualification/ Proficiency Course Of Fire - MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:
https://www.kauai.gov/Portals/0/KPD/Firearms/KPD%20Supplement%20To%20Application%20For%20License%20To%20Carry%20Firearm%20Concealed-Unconcealed-%20Handgun%20Qualification-%20Proficiency%20Course%20Of%20Fire.pdf 
There is one weak hand string:  10 yards, 6 rounds, no time constraints, standing, standing (barricade WEAK HAND)

-Firearms Proficiency Test must be administered by a state-certified or National Rifle Association Firearms Instructor of the Applicant’s choosing (include instructor certification); and-
Signed Shooting Proficiency Test results must include shooting scores – pass/fail only is not sufficient.

-Two passport-sized, front-facing color photographs of Applicant (taken within past 30 days).

-For applications needed for employment purposes, please complete the notarized Private Security Employer Certification Application.


WHAT ARE HPD'S REQUIREMENTS? WHY IS A PUBLIC HEARING NEEDED WHEN KAUAI ALREADY HAS THIS INFO?

Don’t forget Big Island too

Their waivers also are very similar. Unknown if Oahu will do the same waiver.

Just thought I would see what other states require for Concealed Carry Shooting Qualification.

Just thought I would see what other states require for Concealed Carry Shooting Qualification.

https://everydaycarryconcealed.com/concealed-carry-shooting-requirements-distance-qualification-more/

Thanks for the info 

There is one weak hand string:  10 yards, 6 rounds, no time constraints, standing, standing (barricade WEAK HAND)

I fail to understand why this part of the test is even needed.  I certainly understand some competency in shooting with the weak hand, but to test someone and specify no time constraints, it doesn't make sense.

It's not like the perpetrator is gonna say, "No worries, Bro, take your time."

I mean, in a way it's good for the CCW candidate that there are no time constraints for the weak hand while undergoing the test but I argue that this is irrelevant and should be eliminated.

I fail to understand why this part of the test is even needed.  I certainly understand some competency in shooting with the weak hand, but to test someone and specify no time constraints, it doesn't make sense.

It's not like the perpetrator is gonna say, "No worries, Bro, take your time."

I mean, in a way it's good for the CCW candidate that there are no time constraints for the weak hand while undergoing the test but I argue that this is irrelevant and should be eliminated.

CCW tests should be geared to allow shooters the flexibility to hold the gun however they want.  Making the test more difficult by adding a variety of grips and stances is nothing more than an attempt to fail as many applicants as possible.

If the INDIVIDUAL wants more training on the various ways he may possibly be forced to fire his pistol, that's up to the individuals.  Unless gov't wants to fund week-long training courses for all applicants, testing requirements should be based on proficiency standards, not military or law enforcement skills.

Add in anyone who's unable to use their other hand due to an injury or deformity. Like Flapp said, it's a way for them to add failure in.

Add in anyone who's unable to use their other hand due to an injury or deformity. Like Flapp said, it's a way for them to add failure in.

Discriminating against the handicapped and disabled.

Discriminating against the handicapped and disabled.

"I do not get t exercise my 2a right because I lost my trigger finger, left hand/arm .

I have a co-worker buddy from when I was still working that would fall in this category.  He is normal in every way, keeps himself trim and fit, except for one deformity:

He was born with his left index finger and middle finger conjoined together on his dominant hand.  We always had good laughs when he used to "flip" the bird at someone.  That's one big middle finger, lol!!

Anyway, he forced himself to use his weak hand and now everything is as if this hand was always his dominant.  His biggest regret in life was not being able to serve our country in the military even though he told them he can shoot with his other hand.

Anyway, because of the test standards, he will not be able to get a CCW, which to me sucks big time.   

all these requirements are racist