China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane (Read 10190 times)

Kuleana

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2022, 11:56:48 AM »
That is RICH!
To start with I'll show you my electric bill.
Secondly my food bill,
third my property tax bill
you want me to keep going?
All what you described above; Hawaiians are suffering far worse than you.

You seem to forget that Hawaiians don't control anything and what flag is currently flying in illegally occupied Hawaii.



Hawaiian, a caste culture makes slaves, poor, hungry,  and in pain.
The caste culture you are referring to was something prevalent before the Hawaiian Kingdom.  After the establishment of the Hawaiian Kingdom, Hawaii was becoming a modern nation state.   :thumbsup:

Slavery?  You need to understand that slavery was outlawed during the Hawaiian Kingdom at the same time it was 100% legal in America during the same time period.   :wave:

Goes to show which nation state better respected the rights of all men.    :geekdanc:

Kuleana

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2022, 11:58:50 AM »
need a caravan of flags to bring tears to the eyes of the oppressed...get some lifted trucks. block freeways. get some permits.
Too bad defenders of the 2nd Amendment living in Hawaii are not unified enough to do the same thing...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2022, 12:04:47 PM »
Please remember, it was the Americans who brought and taught racism to Hawaii and her people.
:wtf:

Americans were the only racist nation to visit Hawaii?  Seems like that Union Jack in the upper field of the Hawaii State Flag would indicate otherwise.
Quote
By the mid 18th century, London had the largest Black population in
Britain, made up of free and enslaved people, as well as many runaways.
The total number may have been about 10,000.[8] Many of these people
were forced into beggary due to the lack of jobs and racial discrimination.[9][10]
Owners of African slaves in England would advertise slave-sales and for
re-capture runaways

But, only Americans are historically racists.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2022, 12:08:27 PM »
Too bad pelousy didn't plan on visiting Taiwan earlier.

Then if China was serious about their threat then pelousy wouldn't have been able to call a last minute session to vote on that unconstitutional gun ban bill. ;D
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Kuleana

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2022, 12:14:43 PM »
:wtf:
Study the laws enacted by the US imperial territorial government after the illegal annexation of Hawaii and you can learn for yourself how the racist White republican oligarchy maintained their political and economic power via discrimination over all who were not White.

If you don't have time to do the research, talk to non-White locals who lived through that time period and hear it for yourself.

Once you find out the truth for yourself, you can then understand why there was/is something known as "beat-up haole day" in Hawaii spoken and practiced by the local population.

hvybarrels

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2022, 12:20:29 PM »
Once you find out the truth for yourself, you can then understand why there was/is something known as "beat-up haole day" in Hawaii spoken and practiced by the local population.

Nobody here calls it that

You sound kinda…foreign
The F in Communism stands for Food

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2022, 12:24:27 PM »
Study the laws enacted by the US imperial territorial government after the illegal annexation of Hawaii and you can learn for yourself how the racist White republican oligarchy maintained their political and economic power via discrimination over all who were not White.

If you don't have time to do the research, talk to non-White locals who lived through that time period and hear it for yourself.

Once you find out the truth for yourself, you can then understand why there was/is something known as "beat-up haole day" in Hawaii spoken and practiced by the local population.

You said it was AMERICA that "brought and taught racism to Hawaii."

Now you're moving the goalposts.  You moved from "America brought and taught racism" to "American laws, politics and economic actions were based on discrimination."

Not the same thing.  But you knew that, huh?

Racism is alive and well in Hawaii, and it wasn't something the locals knew nothing about before the US annexed the islands. 

I guess Japanese residents don't practice racism either.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2022, 12:35:35 PM »
Too bad defenders of the 2nd Amendment living in Hawaii are not unified enough to do the same thing...

for the last 100 or so years...
Deeds Not Words

ren

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2022, 12:39:29 PM »
Have no idea how Hawaiians got caught up into this threat on Pelousy....Hawaiians have no missiles...
Deeds Not Words

groveler

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2022, 12:49:06 PM »
All what you described above; Hawaiians are suffering far worse than you.

You seem to forget that Hawaiians don't control anything and what flag is currently flying in illegally occupied Hawaii.


The caste culture you are referring to was something prevalent before the Hawaiian Kingdom.  After the establishment of the Hawaiian Kingdom, Hawaii was becoming a modern nation state.   :thumbsup:

Slavery?  You need to understand that slavery was outlawed during the Hawaiian Kingdom at the same time it was 100% legal in America during the same time period.   :wave:

Goes to show which nation state better respected the rights of all men.    :geekdanc:
You may have me there I should have used the word "Serf" instead of slave.
Most everything else you believe is horse shit.

Yes, many  Hawaiians are not very well off.
As near as I can tell they are fuked over by their own organization
Office of Hawaii homelands. Most Hawaiians I know are hard working and have pretty good incomes.
They drive bigger and nicer trucks than I do and control more land.

Pel'e could care less If I extract trillions of BTU's of energy from the Earth
Only a few Hawaiian Kahuna do , thus is has ceased to be viable. Free energy
for Hawaiians and you "Hawaiian" people reject it.  Fools.

You think a 400 million year old volcano "Your" people discovered
only a few thousand years ago is the beginning of our 5 billion year old world.
It is sacred and you can't build buildings on it. Y'all are idiots.

The Kingdom as far as I know was formed when Kamehameha killed off the
last of his opposition, using
British supplied weapons.
Some independence there
I own land given by  Kamehameha to a white guy.
I didn't steal it from some poor Hawaiian guy,  he sold it to me.
Some fuking Empire.

I don't like the government any more than you do, but the bullshit about how much better it was under the
rule of a Monarchy forged by war and murder really grates on me.
Aloha
 :wtf:














Kuleana

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2022, 12:55:25 PM »
for the last 100 or so years...
This was because of the suppression of Hawaiian history and the Americanization/Denationalization educational campaigns that were implemented by the territorial government that took over Hawaii in 1898.

It has been only in the last 20 years or so since Hawaiian scholars like Dr. Keanu Sai and others that have been reacquainting Hawaiians of their history and exposing the illegal occupation of Hawaii that you now witness the many publicly Hawaiian flagged processions and even a so-called occupied Hawaiian army that has been in the news lately.

With the US empire in decline and Hawaiians finally understanding the truth, the road to de-occupation and national restoration has a very bright future ahead.

"The right to bear arms must not be infringed."  We Hawaiians agree 100%.   :shaka:

ren

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2022, 01:05:01 PM »
This was because of the suppression of Hawaiian history and the Americanization/Denationalization educational campaigns that were implemented by the territorial government that took over Hawaii in 1898.

It has been only in the last 20 years or so since Hawaiian scholars like Dr. Keanu Sai and others that have been reacquainting Hawaiians of their history and exposing the illegal occupation of Hawaii that you now witness the many publicly Hawaiian flagged processions and even a so-called occupied Hawaiian army that has been in the news lately.

With the US empire in decline and Hawaiians finally understanding the truth, the road to de-occupation and national restoration has a very bright future ahead.

"The right to bear arms must not be infringed."  We Hawaiians agree 100%.   :shaka:

So the Hawaiian version of Critical Race Theory? The Hawaiian Army just took over a farmer's land in Kunia recently. Is that how Hawaiians will take back Hawaii from all of us?

Anyways, back to topic. I don't think China will do anything.
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2022, 01:55:45 PM »
So the Hawaiian version of Critical Race Theory? The Hawaiian Army just took over a farmer's land in Kunia recently. Is that how Hawaiians will take back Hawaii from all of us?

Anyways, back to topic. I don't think China will do anything.

Yeah.  China should  (;D) and everybody is thinking it ( :rofl:) but yeah, they not going do anything.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

groveler

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2022, 02:43:09 PM »
Yeah.  China should  (;D) and everybody is thinking it ( :rofl:) but yeah, they not going do anything.
Agreed, they won't shoot her down as that would be doing Americans a favor.
 :thumbsup:

hvybarrels

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2022, 05:01:42 PM »
The queen mother of the woke cult getting shot down by the most racist country on earth…

And the decade is just getting started!
The F in Communism stands for Food

groveler

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2022, 07:28:09 PM »
The queen mother of the woke cult getting shot down by the most racist country on earth…

And the decade is just getting started!
Amen brother!
 :thumbsup:

mrgaf

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2022, 09:47:47 AM »
I don't know who ADN Americas is, but it sounds like a good idea.

I just hope da pakes don’t miss! :thumbsup:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Kuleana

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2022, 10:06:23 AM »
You said it was AMERICA that "brought and taught racism to Hawaii."
Yes, the Hawaiian Kingdom was a multiethnic nation state.

Once it was illegally annexed by the US empire and made a territory, all who were not White were subjugated to the racist discriminatory legislative polices enacted by the American White republican oligarchs, the local Power Okole at that time also known as the infamous "Big Five".



Racism is alive and well in Hawaii, and it wasn't something the locals knew nothing about before the US annexed the islands. 
Locals knew what racism was but were the ones on the receiving end of that racism by the White racist minority that was in power during that time.



I guess Japanese residents don't practice racism either.
Are you inferring that local Japanese in Hawaii practice racist policies to non-Japanese residents?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2022, 10:22:17 AM »
Yes, the Hawaiian Kingdom was a multiethnic nation state.

Once it was illegally annexed by the US empire and made a territory, all who were not White were subjugated to the racist discriminatory legislative polices enacted by the American White republican oligarchs, the local Power Okole at that time also known as the infamous "Big Five".


Locals knew what racism was but were the ones on the receiving end of that racism by the White racist minority that was in power during that time.


Are you inferring that local Japanese in Hawaii practice racist policies to non-Japanese residents?

The US is the largest multi-ethnic nation-state ever conceived.  Hawaii isn't exactly on the beaten path, especially before the days of air travel for the masses.  People flock to the US from all over the world because it's better than any other place on Earth if you want to make a better life.

I don't imply anything about local Japanese in Hawaii.  I'm talking about Japanese nationals.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: China threatens to shoot down Pelousy's plane
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2022, 10:49:12 AM »
Yes, the Hawaiian Kingdom was a multiethnic nation state.

Once it was illegally annexed by the US empire and made a territory, all who were not White were subjugated to the racist discriminatory legislative polices enacted by the American White republican oligarchs, the local Power Okole at that time also known as the infamous "Big Five".


Locals knew what racism was but were the ones on the receiving end of that racism by the White racist minority that was in power during that time.


Are you inferring that local Japanese in Hawaii practice racist policies to non-Japanese residents?

I was just thinking how you've got to have the biggest victim mentality of anyone I've ever met.  In your mind, everything that's bad or wrong in the world is always the fault of some Boogieman, whether it's racism, corporations, or the government.  Everything bad is due to the oppression of your victims by the US.  I'm here to tell you, the US may not have a perfect civil rights record, but that's the GOVERNMENT, not THE NATION.

Trying to vilify the entire US from its creation to now with the same oppressive broad brush is intellectually lazy and dishonest.

Your anti-US agenda is well known, and claiming you love the "old" US Republic versus the US today is again lazy. In those "good ole days," the civil rights for many didn't yet exist, and if they did, they weren't always protected equally.

Every time-slice of history may have some pluses and some minuses, but you fail to highlight anything that doesn't bolster your imperialist rants.

Hijacking this thread is another thing you always do.  it's becoming as uninteresting as it is unproductive.

That's all.  I think the next installment of "I'm an oppressed victim of the Imperialist nation which I refuse to leave" can unfold without me.  Nothing new under the Sun.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw