Power outage Waipahu (Read 5159 times)

astroboy

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2022, 07:35:22 AM »
IIRC the Coal plant is switching to Diesel.
I don't give a shit about Honolulu
I hope y'all starve and can't even burn wood to keep warm.
What does piss me off is you think you rule all the islands.
 :wtf:

FYI watch the video about Hawaii Island elec. rates to rise 20%.
I feel your pain. Maybe you should have a cocktail.
https://youtu.be/1RJKJvG6lgM?t=163

oldfart

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2022, 08:04:18 AM »
uote from: ren on August 10, 2022, 05:23:00 PM
Walmart Kunia was closed Sunday due to loss of power. A transformer went out and they lost all frozen foods.
A store that size should have backup power.
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My son lives about a half mile from that store.
When the power went out, he told me about the walmart store but his house (girlfriend's house) just blinked and his power was ok.

BUT...
He did not realize that the in-laws installed a tesla battery system and the house immediately switched over to battery power.
The house could run all day like that because the PV panels keep charging the batteries.
Pretty cool feature, but I don't think it's worth the expense unless outages become a frequent nuisance.

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RSN172

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2022, 01:28:57 PM »
FYI watch the video about Hawaii Island elec. rates to rise 20%.
I feel your pain. Maybe you should have a cocktail.
https://youtu.be/1RJKJvG6lgM?t=163
Already had the increase in June.  My electric bill was $510 for August.  I have 5 refrigerators and one freezer.  I also run the washer and dryer 10 times a week because I have indoor dogs that pee and poop on washable pads. Still less than what my friend on Oahu is paying for his electric and water bill and he only has 2 fridges and does laundry only twice a week. I have no water or sewer bill.
Happily living in Puna

Rocky

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2022, 03:41:59 PM »
Already had the increase in June.  My electric bill was $510 for August.  I have 5 refrigerators and one freezer.  I also run the washer and dryer 10 times a week because I have indoor dogs that pee and poop on washable pads. Still less than what my friend on Oahu is paying for his electric and water bill and he only has 2 fridges and does laundry only twice a week. I have no water or sewer bill.
As previously mentioned, my electric doubled and went from just over $100 to just under $200 (+92%) and I have Gas dryer, water heater and stove. :wtf:
TV, one fridge and one freezer on electric and I make it a point to turn off lights and computer stuff.
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ren

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2022, 03:56:59 PM »
my electricity went up as well. I thought it was my usage and what I was pumping back into the grid but after checking the line items on my bill it was the Energy Recovery Cost (ERC). It went up 50% from last month which I believe is not under the purview of the PUC. THe ERC is what HECO pays to the energy vendors and it may fluctuate from month to month. If someone who has better knowledge than I please chime in.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2022, 09:09:32 PM »
my electricity went up as well. I thought it was my usage and what I was pumping back into the grid but after checking the line items on my bill it was the Energy Recovery Cost (ERC). It went up 50% from last month which I believe is not under the purview of the PUC. THe ERC is what HECO pays to the energy vendors and it may fluctuate from month to month. If someone who has better knowledge than I please chime in.

Yes, that's right.  There's a fixed amount per kWh the PUC (Public Utilities Commission) permits HECO to charge based on the various tariff codes.  In order to charge for the fluctuations in fuel prices, they bill the ERC as a separate line item.  You can theoretically use the exact same number of kWh per day over several 30-day billing cycles, yet the amount it costs can be different each month as fuel costs fluctuate.

In 2022, Oahu residential customers pay 32.47 cents per kWh.

Here are the non-fuel charges for residential customers (Schedule "R"):
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CUSTOMER CHARGE:
   Single-Phase Service - per month $11.50/month
   Three-Phase Service - per month $20.50/month
NON-FUEL ENERGY CHARGE (To be added to Customer Charge)
   First 350 kWhr per month-per kWhr 10.6812 ¢/kWhr
   Next 850 kWhr per month-per kWhr 11.8347 ¢/kWhr
   All kWhr over 1,200 kWhr per month - per kWhr 13.7121 ¢/kWhr
https://www.hawaiianelectric.com/documents/billing_and_payment/rates/hawaiian_electric_rates/heco_rates_sch_r.pdf

There are waivers and special needs programs, but for the majority, those are the base rates without the fuel charges.
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aletheuo137

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2022, 05:54:41 AM »
Hawaii ends use of coal for power generation as 30-year contract with Oahu plant winds down

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/33926/Rolling-Blackouts-Coming-in-September-Hawaii-ends-use-of-coal-for-power-generation

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astroboy

Re: Power outage Waipahu
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2022, 07:45:21 AM »
Hawaii ends use of coal for power generation as 30-year contract with Oahu plant winds down

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/33926/Rolling-Blackouts-Coming-in-September-Hawaii-ends-use-of-coal-for-power-generation

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That is a good article on the mess due to the green energy fiasco. Even after the KES is completed, we will be charging it with expensive oil.
Deep cycling will shorten the life span of the battery modules. It could cost a lot to keep the KES in operation, probably more than
just keeping the coal plant in operation.