Trump Pleads the 5th (Read 6948 times)

Chrashd

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2022, 01:53:01 PM »
I like your little green laughing ball.Just about how I feel when I read your posts.  :crazy:

macsak

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2022, 01:57:31 PM »
tracy is pro-2a and a member of this forum...

In a statement made Wednesday, just an hour after Trump arrived at James' headquarters in New York City, the former president said, "I once asked, 'If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?' Now I know the answer to that question."

Kind of sums it up.
Judgmental off the cuff, egotistical, wait narcissist is the word I was looking for, knuckle head who knows business and got things done.

If he could just shut the fawk up ! (5th Amendment ?)
All Obama could do was talk. All Trump needs to do is be quiet or at least not as outlandish.

If they sue him can he still plead the Fifth in a civil trial ?

 
Sam Kong for Rep ! (Switched to D but not his views.)
He just gotta get past the primary. I don’t care about the other Dem’s.
(His opponent Tracy Arakaki is also purportedly Pro 2A and a Dem.  :wtf: the two pro 2A Dems are in the same District ? )
Oh, and McDermott in General election. For those of you who can vote for him.

Side rant:
Definitely better than Brandon. Who wouldn’t even need the Fifth. He’d just reply “I can’t recall” and it would be true.

MassConfusion

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2022, 04:16:52 PM »
Emerald brings up a good point today. If they can rig this election coming up then the American experiment is over.

The lawless illegitimate Uniparty will keep tearing everything down, but they are too incompetent to build something to replace it. 

https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/america-has-fallen-into-tyranny-4b1


I was readimg through the comments and this one probably had the most resonance with me.
David Watson
"...These problems happened by complacency. Trusting any government is a mistake. Assuming an occasional ritual ballot is sufficient, is a mistake. Letting others manage candidate selection and advocacy is a mistake. Get involved. Find and support good candidates. Be a poll watcher. Convince your neighbors. Being quiet and polite is why you lose. Every competition is won by the side with greater aggression. That's why we've been indoctrinated to be polite and generous. The outcomes from that are always predictable."
My wife is very much like this in that she always is telling me not to say anything or stay out of whatever. She thinks all the political stuff is a waste of time and I have better things to do. She is kind of right in that I should be more busy preparing. That is part of the problem being she just doesnt get it or what can happen if current events keep unfolding in the order that they are.
People like this dont understand until it is too late and half of them will wonder what happened. I told you so's will do nothing at some point. 
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2022, 08:36:31 PM »
When you plead the 5th in a civil trial.. you lose.

I don't think you know how the justice system in America works.

If you have representation in the civil trial, you are not forced to testify at all.  If the plaintiff fails to make their case, your attorney may not even need to present a defense.  The judge can rule the plaintiff failed to meet their burden of proof.  Period.  Case dismissed.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2022, 10:02:55 PM »
It's smart for him because those who don't know why he's doing it will never understand why as TDS takes over.

Above being a smart choice is the amazing fact that for once he was actually able to not open his mouth and say something stupid.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2022, 10:04:03 PM »
It’s context that matters. This proves he’s a hypocrite. He also sent a mob to attack our country.

Hypocritical? Sure I guess but thats basic politics these days. Make cheap shot attacks when you can, he's not really doing anything different than loads of other politicians

aletheuo137

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2022, 10:12:35 AM »
How about stealing TOP SECRET/SCI nuclear weapons documents and hiding them at  home?
Do you have proof? Evidence? Facts?

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2022, 10:33:23 AM »
Do you have proof? Evidence? Facts?

For his/her/its/their information, nuclear documentation is classified much higher than TS/SCI.

But, we don't expect them to know much about reality.  They just regurgitate the latest talking points with no understanding of what they said.

Depending on the context, it may be regulated by the DOE (Dept of Energy, for those Democrats reading this). 

The DOE uses specific classifications for nuclear-related weapons: 
     Restricted Data (RD),
     Formerly Restricted Data (FRD), and
     Transclassified Foreign Nuclear Information (TFNI)

One of the characteristics of nuclear data that differs from most is there is no declassification instruction allowed.  The material must be reviewed and declassified by someone specifically authorized to do so.  Most other clearance levels, including TS and TS/SCI, contain declassification instructions -- either a date that the info becomes declassified automatically, or the term OADR, meaning it must be reviewed and declassified by the Originator ("Originating Agency's Determination Required").

Some of Hillary's emails contained info that was classified at such a high level, even Congress was not authorized to view it without being read-into the program it referenced.

BTW, the President has the ability to declassify anything he deems appropriate.  As long as he doesn't create a threat to national security, he could have declassified everything found at his home -- assuming they found anything.

This whole "nuclear documentation" thing is meant to SCARE THE PUBLIC into siding with the FBI's decision to raid Trump's home.

Trump's lawyers have scoured everything he brought with him from the WH.  They assured everyone on a news report that nothing he possessed was even close to what's being claimed. 

I guess Trump and his staff should have smashed all his electronics, burned all his paper docs, and bleach-bit/wiped all his storage devices.  Seems like that's enough for the FBI in other cases.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2022, 11:13:56 AM »
For his/her/its/their information, nuclear documentation is classified much higher than TS/SCI.

But, we don't expect them to know much about reality.  They just regurgitate the latest talking points with no understanding of what they said.
But, but, that is what the talking points are on their social masturbation website.

No need to actually know anything, just repeat what their circle jerk bleats like the stupid cattle they are.

drck1000

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2022, 11:22:16 AM »
But, but, that is what the talking points are on their social masturbation website.

No need to actually know anything, just repeat what their circle jerk bleats like the stupid cattle they are.
prob doesn't even know what an SCI is. . .

Watch too much NCIS, Quantico, etc. . .

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2022, 11:26:52 AM »
In a statement made Wednesday, just an hour after Trump arrived at James' headquarters in New York City, the former president said, "I once asked, 'If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?' Now I know the answer to that question."

Kind of sums it up.
Judgmental off the cuff, egotistical, wait narcissist is the word I was looking for, knuckle head who knows business and got things done.



Normally, I would call someone like this a hypocrite. But you gotta realize that in Trumps exceptional case, they are looking for any reason to get him. So if he said he hate a banana one morning and 4 days later says he ate an apple, they would get him for perjury.  If I were him, I wouldn't even tell them his name as they will look for something.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2022, 11:28:02 AM »
Above being a smart choice is the amazing fact that for once he was actually able to not open his mouth and say something stupid.

I'll bet they're gonna try to make him upset so he goes "You god damn right I ordered the code red".

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2022, 11:30:09 AM »
I'll bet the nuke docs that they found was a crumpled up paper with his football password on it that is no longer valid. And it goes like "1,2,3,4,5"

drck1000

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2022, 11:38:12 AM »
Just trying to dumb it down for your benefit. I didn't care to discuss the Atomic Energy Act and the President does not have the ability to declassify those documents. So you are misinformed. Maybe you should tap into the mainstream?
Wow!

drck1000

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2022, 11:38:48 AM »
I'll bet the nuke docs that they found was a crumpled up paper with his football password on it that is no longer valid. And it goes like "1,2,3,4,5"
"Mega maid has gone from suck, to blow"

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2022, 11:48:07 AM »
"Mega maid has gone from suck, to blow"

I think some other world leader got made fun of cause his password for something super important was the same.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2022, 12:00:37 PM »
This is the man now entrusted with out national security and the nuclear codes.....

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2022, 12:06:14 PM »
cool story, bro...

Problem is that you know that Trump cannot speak for 5 minutes without lying.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2022, 12:07:37 PM »
Problem is that you know that Trump cannot speak for 5 minutes without lying.

You've never listened to Trump for longer than 10 seconds, have you?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Trump Pleads the 5th
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2022, 12:09:21 PM »
You've never listened to Trump for longer than 10 seconds, have you?
Personally, I try to avoid listening to him, or any politician for that matter, for longer than 10 seconds.

So many damn ads for Scott Saiki nowadays.  He's the rep for my district, but  :grrr: :barf: