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ren

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2022, 07:14:04 PM »
Quote from: oldfart on September 03, 2022, 07:04:43 PM
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Yeah I got your point. While we are on the subject of dogs, did y'all see the story about the dude that shot the neighbor's dogs?
He was a convicted felon on parole....with a gun.

How did that happen? He wasn't supposed to have a gun. It says so in the laws. Did the HPD Chief grant him a permit?  :grrr:
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nalo_b

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2022, 07:16:03 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/08/30/manoa-community-edge-after-neighbor-fires-dozens-gunshots-into-walls-home/

Not sure if you guys seen this one as well. His mom was mad the police didn't give him felony charges...
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QUIETShooter

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2022, 12:38:57 AM »
Quote from: ren on September 03, 2022, 07:14:04 PM
How did that happen? He wasn't supposed to have a gun. It says so in the laws. Did the HPD Chief grant him a permit?  :grrr:

Quote from: nalo_b on September 03, 2022, 07:16:03 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/08/30/manoa-community-edge-after-neighbor-fires-dozens-gunshots-into-walls-home/

Not sure if you guys seen this one as well. His mom was mad the police didn't give him felony charges...

Seems like HPD is becoming ALL TALK and NO WALK.
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Rocky

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2022, 07:32:52 AM »
Quote from: ren on September 02, 2022, 05:32:32 PM
“Pay attention to what they look like. How tall they are. How much do they weigh? Any distinction characteristics. Any scars, marks, tattoos,” said Kim. “As soon as you’re able to call 911, do so right away.”[/i]
No can, perp stole my phone.  :wacko:
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RSN172

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2022, 08:31:09 AM »
When Sgt Kim said to comply with their demands, does that mean you should allow yourself to be taken to a secondary crime scene? Where your chances of being tortured or killed become exponentially greater?  Just some really bad advice from someone who is supposed to be an expert in the field.

One advantage to being old, I am 72. My best years are behind me and the worst years are upon me and will get worst as I age. At this point in my life I am not about to let some young asshole do me harm if I can help it. Even if I die, I already lived the good part of my life.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2022, 08:37:14 AM by RSN172 »
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Rocky

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2022, 08:56:26 AM »
Quote from: RSN172 on September 04, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
When Sgt Kim said to comply with their demands, does that mean you should allow yourself to be taken to a secondary crime scene? Where your chances of being tortured or killed become exponentially greater?  Just some really bad advice from someone who is supposed to be an expert in the field.

One advantage to being old, I am 72. My best years are behind me and the worst years are upon me and will get worst as I age. At this point in my life I am not about to let some young asshole do me harm if I can help it. Even if I die, I already lived the good part of my life.
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groveler

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2022, 09:09:13 AM »
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oldfart

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2022, 09:12:34 AM »
Quote from: Rocky on September 04, 2022, 08:56:26 AM

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yeah, pretty much
I understand now where that phrase "grumpy old man" comes from.
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Rocky

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2022, 09:22:11 AM »
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QUIETShooter

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2022, 09:37:10 AM »
Nothing is more dangerous than messing with an old man with not many years left and only wants to live and love in freedom and happiness.

At that point in his life, it's either you or me if you want to do me harm.

AINOKEA ANYMO >:D
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robtmc

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2022, 11:26:55 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on September 03, 2022, 05:14:26 PM
I'm confused ...

Was that supposed to say "victims' property?"
Hey, this is Hawaii, not the sharpest knives in the drawer here.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2022, 01:43:17 PM »
Quote from: robtmc on September 04, 2022, 11:26:55 AM
Hey, this is Hawaii, not the sharpest knives in the drawer here.

Hawaii makes butterknives look like razors.
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mrgaf

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2022, 01:49:39 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on September 03, 2022, 05:20:15 PM
If that was my dog, there would have been 2 sets of charred human remains at the end of the story....

With no heads….. >:D
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RSN172

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2022, 03:52:06 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on September 03, 2022, 05:20:15 PM
If that was my dog, there would have been 2 sets of charred human remains at the end of the story....
Medium rare tastes better than well done
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hvybarrels

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2022, 04:20:08 PM »
Quote from: Rocky on September 04, 2022, 09:22:11 AM


Somebody needs to work on their Mo drill

Holy perps no can testify
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2022, 08:38:53 PM »
Quote from: RSN172 on September 04, 2022, 03:52:06 PM
Medium rare tastes better than well done

I'll have to defer to the experts on how well done homo sapiens should be BBQ'ed. 

I wouldn't plan to eat them anyway  I believe there might be a law against that (Dr. Lecter was unavailable to comment).  I'd just make sure the "Eye for an eye" rule got carried out\, and that any DNA or trace evidence was incinerated along with the animal abusers.

This is all hypothetical, of course.  I'd never commit murder. 

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Rocky

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2022, 02:21:25 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on September 04, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Somebody needs to work on their Mo drill

Holy perps no can testify
    Hey, nobody said the perp took the bullet out of the house  !  :thumbsup:

   Actually, we shot the "supplement" yesterday.
Boring, except for the course of fire #3, string 3 standing barricade.
Ad-libbed running around the building after each 2 shots to eat up the "70 sec". :crazy:
    I also did not do the Support hand shooting. :-\

    We then jumped over to do the Wilson 5 x 5 on B-29 targets @ 10 yd starting the draw from hands head to belly level.

    Best time and best 2 out of three average, 15.36
Worst time 17.26.   (Failure To Feed malfunction)
    I came in third,  the top 2 had awesome groups and time even with a couple -1 off penalty's.
I believe everyone was under 20 sec.
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bingbong

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2022, 08:51:43 PM »
Quote from: ren on September 03, 2022, 04:53:28 PM
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/3-men-rob-home-in-kapahulu/

Police said the suspects demanded the combination to a safe, but when they were unable to open the safe they took the suspects property instead and left the scene.

According to officials, one man was identified and arrested on suspcion of robbery in the first degree.

On Friday, Sept. 2 the Honolulu Prosecutors Office declined to accept the charge of robbery in the first degree and the suspect was released pending further investigation around 3:30 p.m. on Friday, Sept. 2.

These criminals are laughing at us. They don't need permission to rob us - but we need permission to defend ourselves.

First degree robbery implies the robber used a weapon like a gun or knife to force compliance. If no weapon then it's robbery in the second degree. So instead of 20 years he gets 10 years, nothing to laugh about. In this case the home owner got lucky.
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hvybarrels

Re: Home invasions - no permits needed
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2022, 10:24:45 PM »
Quote from: bingbong on September 05, 2022, 08:51:43 PM
First degree robbery implies the robber used a weapon like a gun or knife to force compliance. If no weapon then it's robbery in the second degree. So instead of 20 years he gets 10 years, nothing to laugh about. In this case the home owner got lucky.


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