HPD to hold public hearing on proposed guns rules following landmark Supreme Court decision (Read 11522 times)

ren

It's kinda like the gay marriage thing. Doesn't matter what we want/favor, they already made their decision on the matter!

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so we can't have a marriage between a man and woman? That's like pulling you over for stealing your own car

Deeds Not Words

ren

Kristy, you ignorant slut.

Definitely not nice. You got some issues.
Deeds Not Words

punaperson

Definitely not nice. You got some issues.
Your ignorance of popular culture is not surprising in the least.

rpoL98

Your ignorance of popular culture is not surprising in the least.
maybe he's too young.  or we're too old.  whichever.

4C5S

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1061-rick-hamada-28867030/episode/ask-the-mayor-on-newsradio-830-102897362/?cmp=ios_share&sc=ios_social_share&pr=false

FF to 36:20 min mark and listen to the end. Mayor admits he’s moving the goal post and making it harder because of the Bruen decision. 41:00 the Mayor’s own words here should be played back at the future 2A lawsuit.


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« Last Edit: October 06, 2022, 06:14:15 AM by 4C5S »

96707

It is clear at this point the Chief is trolling the citizens to delay the process and dump it on the legislature. The chiefs proposed rules is a master class on passing the buck. In the mean time, the legislature gets to see if ccw restrictions in other states pass muster. Unfortunately or fortunately, the Kavanaugh concurring opinion opened the door to all of this. If you want change, support the opponents of Rhoades, Branco, and Chris Lee in the next elections.

Rocky

maybe he's too young.  or we're too old.  whichever.

Yeah... yeah.
That's the ticket.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Heavies

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1061-rick-hamada-28867030/episode/ask-the-mayor-on-newsradio-830-102897362/?cmp=ios_share&sc=ios_social_share&pr=false

FF to 36:20 min mark and listen to the end. Mayor admits he’s moving the goal post and making it harder because of the Bruen decision. 41:00 the Mayor’s own words here should be played back at the future 2A lawsuit.


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Typical politician. Says “we are going to follow the SCOTUS decision..” then immediately follows with “balancing….”  A direct contradiction to exactly what the SCOTUS decision forbade.

Insulting to be called an extremist for wanting to follow the Constitution of the USA too, BTW, FU Mayor 🖕

These people are impossible

Stack_Xchange

Wait...

That girl Kristy is in Alpha Phi Sigma? I saw a picture of her wearing the stole and cord on her Insta.

Recognized it because... so am I...

groveler

Typical politician. Says “we are going to follow the SCOTUS decision..” then immediately follows with “balancing….”  A direct contradiction to exactly what the SCOTUS decision forbade.

Insulting to be called an extremist for wanting to follow the Constitution of the USA too, BTW, FU Mayor 🖕

These people are impossible
"These people are impossible"

Your first mistake.
They are not people, they are Democrats.
Everyone wonders how things like the Holocaust occurred,
it is because some people got tired of being taken advantage of.
And rightly or wrongly took revenge.
I'm tired of being victimized by the government and its agents.
 :grrr:
I am however a law abiding citizen.
Aloha.

zippz

Rest of the testimonies are up on HPD's website, another 160 pages.  Think that's it.  Saw Rep Branco testified in support, just copying and pasting the Indivisible Hawaii testimony

Heavies

Hardly any of the opposition even took the time to even read what’s being proposed, or even considered what is lawful or reasonable. They just regurgitating the fear mongering and nonsense being spewed. That one dude was even spouting about how SCOTUS made abortion illegal, and is comparing that to a constitutional protected NATURAL RIGHT….  WTF? This dude has no clue about how this works at all.

What really disgusting is this is not a debate. They need to follow the Constitution and the ruling of the SCOTUS. yet here we are debating with these people about what infringements are “reasonable” when 90% of these rules are ILLEGAL.

No accountability whatsoever for these bureaucrats and politicians. ZERO

Heavies

The other astonishing thing I saw was a few testimony that stated how the persons where 70 80 years old and how they are afraid that there will be people allowed to LEGALLY carry a gun around them.

What’s scary is they made it to 70-80 years old and they still haven’t realized that criminals have ALWAYS been carrying guns, knives, deadly implements, just waiting to do harm to less capable weaker people in society.

And only now they are “afraid” because decent people will be able to protect themselves?

The F*cking twists in logic to come to that kind of conclusion is some feat of mental gymnastics!

96707

Hardly any of the opposition even took the time to even read what’s being proposed, or even considered what is lawful or reasonable. They just regurgitating the fear mongering and nonsense being spewed. That one dude was even spouting about how SCOTUS made abortion illegal, and is comparing that to a constitutional protected NATURAL RIGHT….  WTF? This dude has no clue about how this works at all.

What really disgusting is this is not a debate. They need to follow the Constitution and the ruling of the SCOTUS. yet here we are debating with these people about what infringements are “reasonable” when 90% of these rules are ILLEGAL.

No accountability whatsoever for these bureaucrats and politicians. ZERO

Kavanaugh's concurring opinion allows them to put in place restrictions and ccw requirements. They are just following the antigun playbook knowing full well this will stall the process and worst case scenario is the state gets sued and burns another year. This is a stall tactic to ride out the ongoing lawsuits. Hawaii is dreaming of a federal lawsuit because 9th circuit liberal judges will side with Hawaii, then even longer before the issue is settled. Relax, nothing is going to happen any time soon. Spend time voting for and supporting good candidates in the mext election.

ren

Hardly any of the opposition even took the time to even read what’s being proposed, or even considered what is lawful or reasonable. They just regurgitating the fear mongering and nonsense being spewed. That one dude was even spouting about how SCOTUS made abortion illegal, and is comparing that to a constitutional protected NATURAL RIGHT….  WTF? This dude has no clue about how this works at all.

What really disgusting is this is not a debate. They need to follow the Constitution and the ruling of the SCOTUS. yet here we are debating with these people about what infringements are “reasonable” when 90% of these rules are ILLEGAL.

No accountability whatsoever for these bureaucrats and politicians. ZERO

maybe he got lost. Planned Parenthood is just one bldg away.
Deeds Not Words

aieahound

State Sen. Kurt Fevella was strongly opposed to new rules.
Attorney Rick Fried was strongly for.
If I’m not mistaken.
Interesting

Tack on to Heavies post above:  Hysteria. A ton of those opposed suffer from Hysteria.

hysteria
noun
hys·​te·​ria hi-ˈster-ē-ə  -ˈstir-
1
: a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychogenic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral (see VISCERAL sense 4) functions
2
: behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hysteria

« Last Edit: October 07, 2022, 07:43:01 PM by aieahound »

mrgaf

Hmmm interesting. They said they're outnumbered 20 to 1.  Anyone want to help them out?


Frickin Lee, gives us no mention or credit.  Says NRA flies lobbyists to meet with legislators and organize that 20 to 1.  I feel insulted.



I’ve Had to deal with Lee on a few occasions. He’s a pompous idiot, very abrasive and thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread. My last conversation with him ended in me reminding him he’s a legend in his own mind and he started to raise his voice, I gave him a good FOAD and hung up. Twenty minutes later I ceased to be a life member of the NRA.   :shaka:
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To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

hvybarrels

On a semi-positive note when Democrat fraud completely botches the upcoming election, the chaos that follows will inevitably push more people to pro-2a.

Nothing like a cop shortage to put a little pucker in their sphincters
The F in Communism stands for Food

Flapp_Jackson

On a semi-positive note when Democrat fraud completely botches the upcoming election, the chaos that follows will inevitably push more people to pro-2a.

Nothing like a cop shortage to put a little pucker in their sphincters

Some are predicting that the results of either the midterms this year or the 2024 Presidential election will be so tainted, there will be a refusal to allow the results to be certified.  Jan 6th may have only been a "peaceful protest" compared to what could happen soon.

People are getting fed up with the unanswered questions and suspicious 3AM delivery trucks.  They are frustrated with the Democrats controlling the counting in key swing states and having GOP observers kicked out for no good cause or seated in alcoves far from where the counting is being done.  And why are there always "misplaced" cases of ballots found at the 11th hour every single election?

They cry that democracy is under attack, yet they deny a transparent, fair and democratic election process.  One voice -- one vote.  Each bogus ballot, tossed-out ballot, re-scanned ballot or "counting error" cancels someone's valid vote.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

I’ve Had to deal with Lee on a few occasions. He’s a pompous idiot, very abrasive and thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread. My last conversation with him ended in me reminding him he’s a legend in his own mind and he started to raise his voice, I gave him a good FOAD and hung up. Twenty minutes later I ceased to be a life member of the NRA.   :shaka:
Did you quit or did they kick you out?
I'm a life NRA member for over thirty years, not too happy with them today, but I also vote for
Republicans against my better judgement. 
Better to have some representation as opposed to none.
I'm also a member of GOA and our local
Quixotic HIFICO(sp?).
I keep a lawyer on speed dial.
If The NRA terminated you, I'd be happy to help get you re-instated.
PM me.
 :shaka: